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That would actually have been better. But I had forgotten Trek existed.
Alien: Covenant/Alien Series thoughts.
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Trailer's here!
Also, Aliens Romuluses starts filming in October according to Fede Alvarez on some podcast in Mexican.
Also, Aliens Romuluses starts filming in October according to Fede Alvarez on some podcast in Mexican.
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Oh goodie, it's exactly the things I complained about when the details for this slop got leaked elsewhere.
Also yes, they stole the Dr. Eisenburg concept, only did it even more retardedly by having children get their minds uploaded into synthetics as child soldiers. I'd comment that it'd be smarter to just build combat synths from the start, but then we'd not have the crying man beg this chick to remember she's his sister.
I think this MIGHT have also been a reference to how the United Americas had a similar idea of clonetroopers, which I personally also disliked as a concept. I always found it more fitting that they'd trawl the slums and give crooks or down-on-their-luckers or aspiring sociopaths a paycheck to kill bugs and stomp on colonial uprisings. Either way it's shit and she's the girl who's the key to everything.
Also too chickenshit to reveal the minority minstrel show you have in the show? Okay RatCo.
And everything else about this is confirmed. Takes place before Alien; it is going to be used as a reference for why Wey-Yu wants them so badly or hints they already had them and failed to keep them. And it's just going to be shit.
I also loathe how often they copy shots from a movie almost 50 years old since they don't know how to make something good anymore.
AND STOP USING THAT FUCKING ALARM YOU SHITBOOTS! THE CLUNKING SOUND FROM ALIENS MORE THAN ANYTHING WAS ACTUALLY ICONIC GIVEN ITS USAGE IN THE GAMES!
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I have mixed feelings - mostly positive but the time frame is bugging me. Legion and most of Fargo (except for season 4 with the constant poop and fart jokes) bought Noah Hawley a lot of goodwill with me and I even mostly-enjoyed the TDS season of Fargo, just not as much as the first 3.
I really like the idea of corporate espionage in Alien, and it's nice to see other aliens in Alien that aren't Predators. But THE Alien on Earth before the Nostromo incident? I'd prefer a post-3 setting to avoid continuity problems, aside from with Resurrection (which I am more than happy to pretend didn't happen). Even before the prequels, the idea that "Ellen Ripley died trying to wipe this species out. For all intents and purposes, she succeeded!" seemed ridiculous because there's no way LV-426 would have been the only place to find eggs for a species that was not indigenous to LV-426. And then the prequels established that there's a magic black goop out there that starts nudging anything alive that is exposed to it towards some version of The Alien/Xenomorph/XX121.
Plus Noah Hawley's take on David "inventing" the Xeno:
Which 1:Noah Hawley said:
, and 2: I always took that part of Covenant to be David re-creating something the Engineers either created themselves or found and almost domesticated (having their own Alien movie plot take place 2000 years ago with the Prometheus crew finding the aftermath), since David had a few years to poke around their computer systems on that ship between Prometheus and Covenant. And there was an interview I can't find at the moment from when Covenant was released where Ridley Scott said something to the effect that an AI like David couldn't create something new, only re-create or imitateA W-Y ship scooping up some eggs 10-20 years after Ripley died in 3 wouldn't feel like a massive stretch, but this seems like Hawley's writing himself into a corner where Prodigy City and Neverland Research Island have to get nuked, and it's still going to be weird when 60 years later nobody believes a defrosted Ripley about the Alien, the Hadley's Hope colony isn't a massive bio-research facility and presumably neither is wherever the Maginot specimens came from.
Wild card that won't happen but would make me burst out laughing, yell "NOAH YOU SON OF A BITCH!" and give this a 10/10 from the beginning though:
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Why do they want a dangerous bioweapon when they can build their own intelligent and obedient synthetic life forms? What can the aliens do that an army of synths cannot?
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How the fuck is this getting a sequel?
The ending was pants on head retarded and more degenerate wtf somehow than Resurrection's ending.
They kind of make sense in a galaxy filled with lots of other sentient life. A weapon that can easily adapt to an enemies' biology while also being incredibly dangerous v a android you may have to constantly tinker with to make it viable.
But there arent any(except maybe the Arcturians?) so yeah, seems kind of pointless.
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Canonically sentient life was not discovered until a few years after the events of Alien. I think it was around five years after the Nostromo disappeared and it was the Arcturians that was the one found. Life beforehand likely was found on a limited level, things like bacteria or some forms of wildlife, but it was a major factor in the original script for why the derelict was so interesting and important of a find.
Also to be blunt, the director walking back on Covenant doing that crap with David wasn't new. A lot of media made after that suicide note of a movie said the same shit and they still sucked. I'm turned off from the trailer confirming what those fuck awful leaks stated, since working at RatCo is considered hell by directors now.
Also yes, you'd probably want to use combat synthetics over aliens. A factor for their interest in using them was due to a treaty that hasn't happened yet that bans combat synths.
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Because it's the same lazy Hollywood writing that's also seen in the Jurassic Park sequels where the military/big corporation wants to use dinosaurs as living weapons.
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I like how they've mastered FTL space travel a concept that would breaks all laws of physics yet they absolutely need to waste every possible resource imaginable to obtain a 7 foot tall monster that bleeds acid and wants to slaughter or inseminate anything that moves. This is like the Romans wanting to capture lions so they can defeat the Gauls when they have superior weaponry and tactics.
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Bioweapons in real life barely make any sense; it's why no one uses them. The Alien being a bioweapon against humans is retarded. It'd be funnier if the plan was to just smuggle the eggs onto a bunch of farming colonies and destroy the interstellar meat market or something.
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I didn't see any AvP shenanigans in Predator: Killer of Killers, although there was a musical cue very late in the film that had me expecting one.
Somebody on the AVPgalaxy forums who speaks Spanish summarized the podcast Fede Alvarez was on, re: Rom2lus:
Somebody on the AVPgalaxy forums who speaks Spanish summarized the podcast Fede Alvarez was on, re: Rom2lus:
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>let's make a series about the aliens on earth
>let's make it a prequel to everything except maybe prometheus i guess instead of having it be the alien infestation of earth from the comics
all the sighs
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Another show ruined by casting the ugliest mutts they could find.
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The new Predator animated movie is out now (on Hulu). It has probably the worst animation style I have ever seen. The entire movie has a low frame rate so the characters are constantly teleporting and stuttering. And this is deliberate. It just looks awful. I had to turn it off during the first scene and fast-forward to other scenes to make sure it wasn't just some streaming lag issue. I cannot believe that this movie costs more than $20K to make.
Apparently the animation runs at 12fps. Ever played a videogame at 12fps? Whoever approved this style should be beaten to death. This is probably the worst movie of either franchise. Of course tons of high IMDB and AvPGalaxy reviews praising this as the greatest movie of all time.
Apparently the animation runs at 12fps. Ever played a videogame at 12fps? Whoever approved this style should be beaten to death. This is probably the worst movie of either franchise. Of course tons of high IMDB and AvPGalaxy reviews praising this as the greatest movie of all time.
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Well this show will probably be terrible but the franchise has enough weight behind it that I will give the show a go. Therefore I'm out of this thread for the time being as when I know I'll watch something I like to go in blind, without trailers, etc. See you all in a couple of months.
(Probably immediately after the first episode when I see it's so bad I give up on enjoying it and just willing to read leaks and speculation again instead of watching it)
(Probably immediately after the first episode when I see it's so bad I give up on enjoying it and just willing to read leaks and speculation again instead of watching it)
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I liked the Killer of Killers movie. Some parts were definitely better than others. I thought the lower frame rate style would bother me more, but it was alright. The Japanese story was the best of the three, which I had guessed when I first saw the trailer. It was also the one with the least dialog (about one sentence), which was greatly to its benefit. They are definitely trying to do a Miles Morales thing with Torres. He was so annoying that he almost looped around to being ironically kind of funny by the end, but still annoying and I wished he would shut up. I didn't watch the longer trailer, so I didn't know that the three stories converge, and Yautja collect humans that successfully kill predators and put them in cryosleep to use for later. This includes Naru, so does this potentially include Dutch, Harrigan, Royce, etc., and we might see them side by side in the future? Hmm. I think this is our first exposure to the Yautja language that they have developed for Badlands, so that was interesting. It's kind of robotic and I hope it will include more of the classic clicking sounds, growls, and roars. But I'm still excited for them to explore that.
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I think I'm going to add my two cebts to this thread:
I like the first three Aliens movies and think Weaver's involvement should have ended at 3, and moved on to another protagonist.
The Aliens franchise to me works best when the Alien isn't explained, the Engineers aren't shown, and it's just about a bunch of people up against a hostile creature spawned from the uncaring depths of space. To me, the Alien is a creature that slowly evolved to survive against the attempts of more advanced space-faring races to eradicate it, which would explain why it's hard to detect, grows rapidly, and can survive in deep space. Any members of it's species not sufficiently equipped with a don't-dare-kill-it biology (like the acid blood) or cunning enough to avoid being killed before reproducing ended up not contributing to it's 'gene pool.' So when mankind gets it's first introduction to this creature, it's so overclocked in the biology department from surviving against mmore advanced races that it all but kills every one of the crew save one woman and a cat within a few days.
I think what would have been a fitting 'sequel' to this horror-in-space trope part of the movie is what was in the older Dark Horse comics- megacorporations trying to monopolize on the creature and use it to create weapons of war or drugs for a profit. That is just as bleak as the 'uncaring universe' trope because it shows just how dystopian things are and how little they are bothered about using something that can take out huge swaths of the population if it gets loose, as long as it can possibly make them a profit and extend their control yet further.
(I also want to say that I'm glad they didn't include the orgy or sex stuff in the films, that would have ruined these movies for me.)
With the Predator franchise, I think the franchise was best when it was mainly the first two movies and the comics. Plus I think it's best when the Predator isn't shown that much without his mask. Overshowing him without it makes the shock of his appearance lose 'ommph' and just becomes boring, plus if he's not in serious roles when shown then he becomes mundane and hard to take seriously. I also think that it would have been more interesting when there were films of them hunting elsewhere offworld, that there are no humans, just short films of Predators going toe to toe with hostile species. Mostly done with minimal or no 'dialog' save for their alien clicks, roars and grunts, everything being 'told' through body language. Their society being somewhat more 'barebones' where technology, politics, morals, religion medical understanding, and science is largely geared around nature red in tooth and claw, where you proved your 'worth' by surviving against a lethal foe and it being acceptable for the 'weakest' members to be 'weeded out' during a hunt. Pretty much whatever a mentality is held by a carnivorous highly predatory species that likely didn't develop farming and drove whatever hunted them into extinction, but never lost that necessary ruthlessness and built in need to prove themselves, because that is who survived the longest, had the most babies and what allowed them to survive against far more hostile things on their world.
I like the first three Aliens movies and think Weaver's involvement should have ended at 3, and moved on to another protagonist.
The Aliens franchise to me works best when the Alien isn't explained, the Engineers aren't shown, and it's just about a bunch of people up against a hostile creature spawned from the uncaring depths of space. To me, the Alien is a creature that slowly evolved to survive against the attempts of more advanced space-faring races to eradicate it, which would explain why it's hard to detect, grows rapidly, and can survive in deep space. Any members of it's species not sufficiently equipped with a don't-dare-kill-it biology (like the acid blood) or cunning enough to avoid being killed before reproducing ended up not contributing to it's 'gene pool.' So when mankind gets it's first introduction to this creature, it's so overclocked in the biology department from surviving against mmore advanced races that it all but kills every one of the crew save one woman and a cat within a few days.
I think what would have been a fitting 'sequel' to this horror-in-space trope part of the movie is what was in the older Dark Horse comics- megacorporations trying to monopolize on the creature and use it to create weapons of war or drugs for a profit. That is just as bleak as the 'uncaring universe' trope because it shows just how dystopian things are and how little they are bothered about using something that can take out huge swaths of the population if it gets loose, as long as it can possibly make them a profit and extend their control yet further.
(I also want to say that I'm glad they didn't include the orgy or sex stuff in the films, that would have ruined these movies for me.)
With the Predator franchise, I think the franchise was best when it was mainly the first two movies and the comics. Plus I think it's best when the Predator isn't shown that much without his mask. Overshowing him without it makes the shock of his appearance lose 'ommph' and just becomes boring, plus if he's not in serious roles when shown then he becomes mundane and hard to take seriously. I also think that it would have been more interesting when there were films of them hunting elsewhere offworld, that there are no humans, just short films of Predators going toe to toe with hostile species. Mostly done with minimal or no 'dialog' save for their alien clicks, roars and grunts, everything being 'told' through body language. Their society being somewhat more 'barebones' where technology, politics, morals, religion medical understanding, and science is largely geared around nature red in tooth and claw, where you proved your 'worth' by surviving against a lethal foe and it being acceptable for the 'weakest' members to be 'weeded out' during a hunt. Pretty much whatever a mentality is held by a carnivorous highly predatory species that likely didn't develop farming and drove whatever hunted them into extinction, but never lost that necessary ruthlessness and built in need to prove themselves, because that is who survived the longest, had the most babies and what allowed them to survive against far more hostile things on their world.
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Not much of a shocker or even creative given that's literally what Predators did way back in 2010 or so. Hell they wanted to but couldn't get Schwarzenegger for that movie either, since he was supposed to be on their hunting world for years at that point. I also have no fucking interest in key jangling; too many IPs do that to counter how they didn't give a crap for what they made or to trick people into ignoring how bad the final product was.
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Not across time periods with cryosleep though, that's a new addition that would allow the different MCs to be together. But yeah, just having "look it's this guy remember this guy!!!" will not be enough. I am optimistic though.
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I give it 8/10. I thought the 3rd segment was the weakest but still interesting. I dunno, something about the Predator's hunting so openly like that strikes me as off. Not unless you setup some kind of Bermuda Triangle shit where fighter pilots get lost in this vortex then the premise works.
I also don't know if I like Predator's kidnapping the victor and forcing them to fight another Alpha Predator. The impression you get from the first 2 movies and the comics is that once you beat a Predator they leave you alone not unless your paths cross again out in the field. Here, it makes the Predator race come off as bitter sore losers... But on the flipside you could say that's already a thing with the self-destruct.
Look at this smug prick "Shit happens!" he lost, he's going to blow himself up and pretty much the entirety of Los Angeles with him.