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People have already made up their minds about the new Predator movie. Either you love it or you just don't give a shit, and actually watching the movie doesn't make a difference towards this opinion. It's predestined.
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Gregg Turkington
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Wow. They could have at least included a Xenomorph skull as a brief homage to it's appearance in Predator 2, but no, instead imply the Predator species have just been stagnant and doing the same thing for 60 million years. Retarded.
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Nice AI art and AI animations made on that chinese website Disney. I can really tell you're as excited for the womanchild who's the key to everything as I am. I've seen better cgi art made like 15 years ago.More ads and promotional images for Alien: (Welcome To) Earth
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If you see this one on Hulu instead of YouTube, it may or may not reveal the August 5 release date:
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And supposedly Alec Gillis had some involvement with this one, but he deleted the Instagram post probably because of a dang dirty NDA:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=0Ugp6Q5s74sSpecies 37, Special Order 937... I'm sure it's nothing. Anyway, seems like non-human hosts are back in style, so maybe some of those old Kenner toys are going to show up.
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Graphics design is their passion.
Also yeah, I can definitely tell they're going to make gimmick xenos off of these aliens that are totally going to be infected. Also nice to see that Wey-Yu already knew about these aliens and got their hands on them before the first movie. Very cool and not fucking stupid at all.
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To give you a counter-opinion I quite liked it. I might say that people didn't like it because it was different to the first but I found it one of the closest to the first in tone. Slightly silly, lots of action, amusing one-liners. My biggest criticism is that it appears to have been written at the height of the autism-is-cool zeitgeist which becomes a fairly daft plot point. But the effects are good, the cast are good, it returns the franchise to an ensemble of "so-cool" military types.Alright, thanks. Never saw that one because I heard it was horrible. I had faith in Shane Black, he's put out some fun stuff in the past.
I think sometimes people forget that the old Predator movies are the ones that gave us the psychic Voodoo-using gangster who could sense the Predator and sword-fights it, the Native American tracker soldier who inexplicably walks into the clearing and slices his chest open because in the 80's equivalent of early 2000's "autism is cool" was "native Americans are cool". Or Arnie throwing a clearly fake knife into someone through their body and pinning them to a wall before smiling and saying "Stick around".
"The Predator" is similary, whatever people say. The only two Predator movies that have actually been serious movies are Prey and Predators. The former by far the best imo. Though @Adamska tells me it's a highly unrealistic depiction of the Comanche, I think saying that women were property. Which I respect his opinion on but I believe there are reports of Comanche women joining in on attacks and regardless, everybody has different standards. It simply didn't bother me as much. I thought it was a very well done film and I'm giving Badlands a chance on the basis of it. But if you like the original Predator movie I feel like you'd probably enjoy The Predator. Low expectations will probably help.
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Nah, Shane Black's film is even more butchered than Predator 2's plot was by editing. He legit had to do day for night shots and crippled his antagonist's impact due to that since he wanted to change how it went. Not even kidding, the villain's arc and actions were changed since he couldn't be fucked to plan it right. Same as the Scorpions vs the Haitian gang from Predator 2 being cut, but with even less excuses IMO since Black had much more time and control to make this film than Predator 2 did.
Also the it was goofy excuse falls completely flat when you actually look at the plot arc. Predator stopped with its jokes after the camp, and Shane Black, the least funny but guy who had the most jokes was killed first. Any comedy after the camp and his death was incidental at best. It becomes a proper action/horror flick rather than a wink and nod to Commando like it started as.
And there's a big difference between a generic native man cutting himself to draw a hunter by blood in what comes off as a bad ass moment and say... a literally retarded via brain damage alien doggy vomiting a bomb and looking derpily at the fucking camera.
Or a flailing sperg bombing some guy's house after he goes full Steven King abusive shit at him.
Those are both moments in 2018's film. Both of them were anti-comedy, since both were constructed to be funny.
Boys had more elaborate rights of passage, up to and including their vision quest and were given the best aspects due to the Comanche respecting warriors the most. Girls were taught how to tend house and home and were expected to be married when they finished their skills at home making, which was started when they hit 12.
The cases you refer to were extremely isolated cases at best, and done in the face of it all going to shit. And that doesn't include them being absolute bastards to the other tribes btw.
There's a bunch of other tribes that you COULD have gotten away with doing this shit. Like the Ojibwe for example; Hanging Cloud is an excellent example of this, being known in her native tongue as "Arms oneself" and is an actual real warrior woman. The Navajo if I recall could work for this too, since they were much more egalitarian, and while they did expect women (and men) to have kids, they did have roles for those who did not go for the gender norms.
And then there's the Cheyenne, which has several examples of warrior women to pick from as references. Fuck, the Cherokee even have a title for a warrior woman: the Ghigau, since it happened enough for them to have that.
That's my issue; it's cultural vandalism that's getting passed as hacktivism; it's trying to erase and simplify the fact that native tribes varied a hell of a lot despite having similar lifestyles. That and the hackhanded take they did on the trappers.
Also the it was goofy excuse falls completely flat when you actually look at the plot arc. Predator stopped with its jokes after the camp, and Shane Black, the least funny but guy who had the most jokes was killed first. Any comedy after the camp and his death was incidental at best. It becomes a proper action/horror flick rather than a wink and nod to Commando like it started as.
And there's a big difference between a generic native man cutting himself to draw a hunter by blood in what comes off as a bad ass moment and say... a literally retarded via brain damage alien doggy vomiting a bomb and looking derpily at the fucking camera.
Or a flailing sperg bombing some guy's house after he goes full Steven King abusive shit at him.
Those are both moments in 2018's film. Both of them were anti-comedy, since both were constructed to be funny.
It was a demonstrably patriarchal society. Blatantly so. To the point where there were different standards to when a boy was born vs when a girl was. They would tell the father about a boy's birth and paint the tipi's top if it was a boy, the painted tip representing a new warrior being born.
Boys had more elaborate rights of passage, up to and including their vision quest and were given the best aspects due to the Comanche respecting warriors the most. Girls were taught how to tend house and home and were expected to be married when they finished their skills at home making, which was started when they hit 12.
The cases you refer to were extremely isolated cases at best, and done in the face of it all going to shit. And that doesn't include them being absolute bastards to the other tribes btw.
There's a bunch of other tribes that you COULD have gotten away with doing this shit. Like the Ojibwe for example; Hanging Cloud is an excellent example of this, being known in her native tongue as "Arms oneself" and is an actual real warrior woman. The Navajo if I recall could work for this too, since they were much more egalitarian, and while they did expect women (and men) to have kids, they did have roles for those who did not go for the gender norms.
And then there's the Cheyenne, which has several examples of warrior women to pick from as references. Fuck, the Cherokee even have a title for a warrior woman: the Ghigau, since it happened enough for them to have that.
That's my issue; it's cultural vandalism that's getting passed as hacktivism; it's trying to erase and simplify the fact that native tribes varied a hell of a lot despite having similar lifestyles. That and the hackhanded take they did on the trappers.
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BigBadBastich
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Indiana Jones, Aliens, Terminator, Star Wars, Predator and Ghostbusters are all franchises that corrupt and soulless executives have refused to let go and have milked and destroyed beyond repair. They and the audience absolutely REFUSE to let them die.
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Hard disagree. Even the first movie implies this has been happening for some time when Anna recalls how men in their village would end up skinned like General Hopper and his crew. So, if Predator huntings are a thing in South America it would ergo happen elsewhere and each culture would have their own interpretation of it like King Willie in Predator 2.
Also, King Willie didn't "psychically sense it" because the Predator knocked a rock off the rooftop and then drops down.
"His salvation lies in the holy mountain, sera."
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Stop, stop! You've convinced me already, I'll watch it.
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Alien was redpilled about the AI menace, Aliens started the modern woke "robots are just like us" DEI trend.
Would a proton pack work on a force ghost? We can't know, without a crossover.
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The Predator was basically re-shot from start to finish and had tons of changes to the point where they essentially made two completely different movies based on the plot. Nearly every character was rewritten at some point. Entire plots were removed or some added at the last minute. There was a plot of an Area 51 scientist that had an hour of footage entirely scrapped. A subplot with some character had to be cut when it turned out that the actor was a pedophile who only got the job because he was Shane Black's friend. They didn't know which story would be used for the movie so they shot a bunch of endings in case the executives from Fox changed their minds again.
They were cutting it so close to the release date that tons of unused footage and plots made their way into the trailers. And most of the alternate endings had been sent out to the press as well. Some the cut plots include Predators teaming up with the U.S. government to invade a planet where Predators are making hybrids of themselves. Another plot was a hybrid Predator crashing a space prison onto Earth where various hybrid species would escape and need to be hunted down (but all of them had bomb collars to make the plot end quickly).
One of the original endings was the autistic child learning to fly the Predator spaceship. And then using it to have a space battle with other Predator ships. And not only winning the battle but becoming part of the U.S. military and teaching the Air Force how to fly a Predator ship. This was so hated by the Fox executives that it was immediately cut. But too much of the early and middle parts of the film centered around the autism plotline and the movie had already had tons of re-shoots and delays that they just left the autism plot in the first half.
2001 and the Hal 9000 was another. Also Ash looking exactly like a human with zero robotic (or inhuman) features was inspired by Invasion of the Body Snatchers. Dan O'Bannon hated the Ash storyline and it was forced into the movie by Fox executives and some of the producers.
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I think they even ended up making action figures of the US military Predators that were in a version of the 2018 Predator film.
That movie was so bad that I don't think any version / cut / edit of it would've been good.
That movie was so bad that I don't think any version / cut / edit of it would've been good.
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the idea of a bunch of random military getting on the same page as Predators is stupid enough that I like it
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thinking more about Predators and Are Armed Forces now I want a wacky montage where they learn to accept each others' ways, and like, the army guys are like calling in a drone strike, and then the predators shake their heads no and produce badass flying spears (which AKSHUALLY count as equal tech), and then the army guys show the predators more efficient ways to hose down skulls or whatever
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Source?
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I'm going to be getting a lot of mileage out of this one I think.
Its made by the same dude who did Prey and the Niggator has a fucking undercut and a nigger face. I don't need for that corpo anus to drop a deuce to know its goign to suck.
The Navajo, bordering the Apache and being in range of the Comanche, the women usually were given some basics of self defense to make them more trouble than they were worth. A Navajo woman able to step to a predator is still retarded but would at least have a basis you could term "possible". But the Navajo were not exactly famous for their combat prowess.
Basically trying to do their "stonk women" shit with Native Americans was absolutely retarded. Wives of Samurai, the various African Royal Guards. Hell you want to have some Central Asian upper class woman who just had more gold than some of the professional intructors had scruples, I'll bite.
But in general even when you had cases like the mongol princess Khutulun who was able to out wrestle any man who challenged her and ended up being massively independently wealthy, she was only allowed to get away with this because Daddy was in charge. She was also never directly engaged in combat, more acting as a financier of mongol raiding parties.
Basically truly stronk woman, but not a killer that would entice a Predator. That's what you'll find in all pretty much all history.
pre-cartidge gun combat was heavily based on physical strength and stamina, and even modest differences in ability in combat would separate victor and victim. And that doesn't get into other biological inconvencies that make female warriors incompatible with long campaigns; so you get women leaders that show up from time to time, but very view trained to kill.
Predator took a normal 80's action flick and shook things up.
Predator 2 took the "dystopian urban crime cop film" and shook it up. Predator 2 got a lot of the "gang war" subplot cut.
Also King Willie was fucking awesome, went out like a fucking boss, and it is a fucking crime the Predator didn't keep those dreads attached to the trophy skull.
He didn't "psychically sense" the Predator. He was just extremely alert and using the gut instinct that got him the top of the gang hierarchy knew he was being stalked - he just wrapped that feeling in his Voodoo religion.
Just watch a documentary about Gurkas.
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iirc doesnt the Dark Horse comics version get a lot closer to the original cut (not necessarily out of any sense of honor, just that was what they had to work with, like the DC versionf of Trek 5 still has the rock monsters)
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The early casting and production for the 'Rory' character, the autistic kid, had him commanding a Predator ship. They even shot part of the ending where he's teaching the U.S. military how the helmet works and some of the Predator language. There was another character named Nettles who was also a pilot who was supposed to pilot a helicopter in the film. At one point his helicopter was waiting on the ground and he would yell "get to the chopper" to the various soldiers and they would escape via flying. This scene was re-cut and the helicopter was changed into a pack of parked motorcycles and the line was dubbed over with "get to the choppers". You can basically see the big ugly CGI blur over where the helicopter was and the motorcycles were placed.
So about two-thirds through the first script Nettles is trying to figure out how to pilot the Predator ship and he can't manage. So Autismo then uses his magic powers to command the Predator ship to the surprise of the soldiers and his fathers. I don't know how much of this was shot but it's in the leaked scripts and productions that were passed around by journalists who got access to them. This film had leaks for practically everything. Apparently the big issue was having an autistic child become a child soldier and actually kill the hybrid Predator.
The original production report for the Nettles character had a bunch of stuff about helicopters as well. I guess Shane Black wanted similar scenes to the beginning and end of Predator where there are helicopters dropping off and picking up the soldiers. And how the guy in the Predator suit played the first pilot as well.
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Do you have a link for this source?