🐱 Alex Jones Just Lost 2 Sandy Hook Cases

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https://www.huffpost.com/entry/alex-jones-lost-two-sandy-hook-cases_n_61561020e4b008640eb1d56a


Infowars host Alex Jones has lost two of several lawsuits filed against him by relatives of Sandy Hook victims after he routinely failed to comply with requests to produce documents related to his involvement in spreading lies about the deadly shooting.

Judge Maya Guerra Gamble on Monday issued her ruling for default judgments against Jones in two different cases, which means he and the conspiracy-theory-spewing outlet Infowars have been found liable for all damages and a jury will now be convened to determine how much he will owe the plaintiffs. The new rulings became public Thursday.

In the filings, Gamble eviscerated Jones and reasoned that default judgments should be ordered because “an escalating series of judicial admonishments, monetary penalties, and non-dispositive sanctions have all been ineffective at deterring the abuse,” caused by Jones’ unwillingness to turn over documents related to the cases, the Texas judge ruled.

The ruling — which is often referred to in Texas as a “death penalty sanction” for a party unwilling to comply with court orders — is a rarity in the legal world. Jones, who is now on his seventh lawyer in these cases, had years to provide documentation requested by the court, including internal company emails.

HuffPost was the first to report the start of Jones’ Sandy Hook legal woes in 2018 when parents Leonard Pozner and Veronique De La Rosa filed a defamation lawsuit related to Jones’ continued lies that the 2012 school shooting that left 20 children and six adults dead was a “false flag” hoax filled with “crisis actors.”

Pozner and De La Rosa’s 6-year-old son, Noah, was killed in the shooting. In the years since, the parents have dealt with continued harassment from those who followed Jones’ lead and claimed the shooting was faked.


They’re not the only ones. In total, nine families who lost loved ones in the Sandy Hook shooting have leveled lawsuits against Jones and Infowars for the damage he and his outlet caused. Since then, Jones has lost multiple legal battles in his many lawsuits and was ordered to pay nearly $150,000 in legal fees in 2020 for failing to provide discovery documents for the plaintiffs.

It was Jones’ continued refusal to hand over discovery documents that led to Monday’s rulings against him in a lawsuit brought on by Pozner and a separate lawsuit by parent Scarlett Lewis, whose 6-year-old son, Jesse, was also killed in the shooting. Pozner, De La Rosa, and Lewis are being represented by Texas law firm Farrar & Ball, who told HuffPost that they are “not surprised by the Court’s decision.”

Jones’ most recent lawyer, Brad Reeves, told the Austin-American Statesman earlier this month that a default judgment against Jones would be a “hugely excessive” response to his discovery failures. Judge Gamble felt otherwise:

“Furthermore, in considering whether lesser remedies would be effective, this Court has also considered Defendants’ general bad faith approach to litigation, Mr. Jones’ public threats, and Mr. Jones’ professed belief that these proceedings are ‘show trials’,” the court rulings read.

Lawyer Bill Ogden with Farrar & Ball told HuffPost that Gamble’s default judgment ruling is “a bit of a myth” in the legal world.

“We learn about death penalty sanctions in law school as more of a theory, and it’s almost unheard of to have them handed down in a case like this,” Ogden said in an emailed statement. “However, the Sandy Hook cases are unique. It is extremely rare that a party (Alex Jones and Infowars) is ordered by the Court to comply with discovery, is sanctioned for failing to obey with the Court’s multiple Order(s), and then continues to blatantly disregard the Court’s authority by continuously refusing to comply.”

While Jones has now claimed he no longer believes the Sandy Hook shooting was a hoax, the damage had already been done. In 2017, Florida woman Lucy Richards was sentenced to five months in prison for sending threats to Pozner.

“You gonna die,” Richards told Pozner in one recorded voicemail message. “Death is coming to you real soon.”
As part of her sentence, Richards was ordered not to access Infowars.
Jones’ cataclysmic court losses are unsurprising to those who have followed his cases. In a 2019 deposition, Jones was unable to recall basic facts about the school shooting, including the date that it happened.
“I talk four hours a day, and I can’t remember what I talked about sometimes a week ago,” Jones said in the deposition.
Reached by phone Thursday, Jones’ lawyer, Reeves, told HuffPost he had no comment regarding the decision.
“I haven’t really analyzed [the rulings], so I don’t know exactly what is going to happen,” Reeves said.
 
relevant video

also here is how CNN shows the video, notice anything about the beginning?

 
Ironically I wouldn't have a problem believing a school shooting in america happened if Alex Jones said it didn't, if not for the fact that this is the reaction to it.

Not that I believe AJ on this, mind you. It's just pants-on-head retarded all the way around and I seriously don't understand how this isn't a massive 1A violation in trying to get a guy's obviously retarded opinion on a real-world incident clammed up because it hurts the victim's feelings.
 
Funny how A&N usually preaches about media being liars (and they are) yet go up to bat for a well known conspiracy theorist. There's a point to where it stops being funny and turns disturbing.
 
Funny how A&N usually preaches about media being liars (and they are) yet go up to bat for a well known conspiracy theorist. There's a point to where it stops being funny and turns disturbing.
There's a difference between believing someone's retarded, insane bullshit and sticking up for their right to say it.

Also, Alex Jones' shtick is obvious retarded, insane bullshit and he's even admitted in court that it's a character. The MSM doesn't have that excuse.
 
Funny how A&N usually preaches about media being liars (and they are) yet go up to bat for a well known conspiracy theorist. There's a point to where it stops being funny and turns disturbing.
I don't want crazy conspiracy theories to stop. They are never not funny. I don't believe much of anything Jones says, but I never want him to stop.

Gay frogs and super male virility are 100% real though.
 
Funny how A&N usually preaches about media being liars (and they are) yet go up to bat for a well known conspiracy theorist. There's a point to where it stops being funny and turns disturbing.
Just because your reading comprehension is poor doesn't mean people are defending alex jones.

The guy is a very entertaining, but provable disinfo agent. I'm not convinced his whole sandy hook back and forth isn't orchestrated by the same hands, whomever those hands may be.

But tell me, who in this thread defended him? His role is pretty much to align with controversial/ rebellious ideas and make them look bad by association.
 
There's a difference between believing someone's retarded, insane bullshit and sticking up for their right to say it.

Also, Alex Jones' shtick is obvious retarded, insane bullshit and he's even admitted in court that it's a character. The MSM doesn't have that excuse.
There's a point where a joke goes too far. Well, it's not even a joke at this point. Actual people would be affected with Jones' speech as he has a sizable audience that listen and tune in. Personally, I believe that claiming that a shooting involving children as "crisis actors" is distasteful.

Just because your reading comprehension is poor doesn't mean people are defending alex jones.

The guy is a very entertaining, but provable disinfo agent. I'm not convinced his whole sandy hook back and forth isn't orchestrated by the same hands, whomever those hands may be.
So, it's a character that he plays as. Tell me, you don't think he actually believes what he's saying. How about 5G?
 
Alex Jones is a crazy, paranoid lunatic who is 100% wrong about Sandy Hook.

This is a travesty. It's legal in the US to deny the Holodomor, and in fact a NYT reporter got a Pulitzer for doing just that. The US Department of State works hand in glove with the Turks to deny the Armenian Genocide. The Carter administration was buddy-buddy with the Khmer Rouge even as they were exterminating 1/3rd of Cambodia's population. That's all cool! But this tick-about-to-pop, this twitchy, over-caffeinated whackjob? We gotta shut him up!

Alexa, what is "the Streisand Effect?"
 
Tell me, you don't think he actually believes what he's saying.
Believe what he is saying? Are you asking me a complete yes or no on the ravings of that man? Give me a little more to bite into.

But give me something he said, not something some writer said that he said.
 
There's a point where a joke goes too far. Well, it's not even a joke at this point. Actual people would be affected with Jones' speech as he has a sizable audience that listen and tune in.
I think it's smooth-brained as fuck to say that someone is responsible for what their audience does. By this logic Maxine Waters as well many other prominent politicians should be facing similar if not outright criminal prosecution for the shit they said in 2020 regarding the BLM riots.
Personally, I believe that claiming that a shooting involving children as "crisis actors" is distasteful.
The entire fucking point of the first amendment free speech clause is to protect "distasteful speech". I don't exactly like the sound of politicians saying that "rioting is the language of the unheard" to a large audience but I do believe it's their right to be allowed to say it.
So, it's a character that he plays as. Tell me, you don't think he actually believes what he's saying. How about 5G?
He said so under oath. Again, not that it matters, as I don't give a dead rat's ass if it's a character, I just figured it's worth pointing out that he at the very least has that thin veneer of an excuse that the MSM doesn't.

For the record, you can act like this is some kind of hypocrisy when people start saying, unironically, that journos shouldn't be allowed to spew bullshit but Alex Jones should. I haven't seen anyone in this thread advocate for that and to date I don't think I've seen anyone in A&N express that (or sentiments like it) without it being some form of joke.
 
Explain how they would be materially affected.
"My child died from a mass shooting and there's this lunatic with an audience claiming that he/she was a crisis actor."

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The entire fucking point of the first amendment free speech clause is to protect "distasteful speech". I don't exactly like the sound of politicians saying that "rioting is the language of the unheard" to a large audience but I do believe it's their right to be allowed to say it.
That proves my point. Misinformation is spreading so rapidly in today's Internet centric world, it's easy to suppress and it turns dangerous as more and more people accept it as fact.
 
"My child died from a mass shooting and there's this lunatic with an audience claiming that he/she was a crisis actor."
Yeah? And how is that person responsible for what people want to do with that claim? Last I checked adult human beings were responsible for their own actions.
That proves my point.
Explain how.
Misinformation is spreading so rapidly in today's Internet centric world, it's easy to suppress and it turns dangerous as more and more people accept it as fact.
Then perhaps the problem isn't with people "spreading misinformation" (who gets to decide it's misinformation?), it's that you have a lot of stupid people. Either way this idea that certain "misinformation" is so dangerous that we need to put tape over the mouths of people who have members of their audience who are idiots is in and of itself a dangerous idea.

Maybe think on that a little bit.
 
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