AI Art Seething General

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Crosspost from Ruben Sim Derangement Syndrome:
local arkansas man said:
Insane even.
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No points for guessing how well this NPC can draw.
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Some artists will go on moral rampage about tracing AI art. While AI art is technically a public domain material, some artist will "police" you from tracing it. Like you can trace/heavily reference the AI image, but dont claim it as your own. Others will say you are tracing from a stolen data. Tbh i don't care so much about this because if you're good at art, know how to cover up the AI image mistakes, and also generated the image privately, nobody would notice.

Also, almost nobody is talking about artists using their artworks to train their AI? I have seen only two artists so far who does that and both of them are skilled artists. Maybe mainstream artists are not ready for that conversation
 
The recently concluded Andrew Huang controversy, brings up some really interesting questions about the use of AI art. Andrew is a musician, who wanted to release a deck of cards, with "inspiring" images.

He hired one of those photobashing, Photoshop guys, not knowing they usually don't filter AI art out, of all the stock art, they're bashing together.
However their process is still way more complex, than any kind of text to image prompting, as seen in here:

Because everything drawn in this style, gets accused of being entirely AI generated these days, this was too and Andrew was forced to address it, in the following response:
 
Jeb Bush said:
Back to Xitter AI art drama of the week. This time AI has come for the Pokymen drawing contest...
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A pretty pointless update, to an old post everyone probably forgot already, but it looks like the seething worked, seeing as all the AI entries were removed from the Pokemon drawing competition (their spots filled with human artists) and an apology was posted.
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Danann said:
Ah hey, Mr. RJ Palmer, one of the original stars on Deviantart and is an unsufferable cunt because he thinks he's better than everyone cause he got Hollywood famous....TAD
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It's hilariously ironic he's one of the biggest anti-AI copyright jews when he himself got famous from drawing "what if pokemon was heckin real life???" fan art.
 
Danann said:
Ah hey, Mr. RJ Palmer, one of the original stars on Deviantart and is an unsufferable cunt because he thinks he's better than everyone cause he got Hollywood famous....TAD
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Oh dear... I actually admired him because of his fabulous work. I actually had no idea that he was an LOLcow.

Bloudwulf said:
Imagine Robin Hood refusing to steal from the rich and giving to the poor, because the money the rich have was stolen from the poor in the first place.
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That is a false dichtomy, since money is fungible. Art work, style, and, to som extent, content is not. This would be closer to robbing Peter then paying Paul, though a better equivalent would be giving the family heirlooms from one family to another. Even that is not a perfect analogy.
 
linchan said:
Fun's over bros. They figured it out. No more free art.
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I think this is a particularly shitty artist take (held by only the minority of artists). Their whole point was that AI either shouldn't be used, or it should be used by artists, to assist them, rather than to replace them.

An artist using something the AI made, as an inspiration for their thing, is exactly that. Some will argue that it gives attention and inflates the ego of AI bros, but this is usually done by unknown artists - so it tends to benefit the artist more, or "at worse", it is still mutually beneficial and brings some attention to an artist, who might otherwise never be discovered.

RJ Palmer doesn't care about that, because he already has a large following and is unaware/in denial about how hard it is, to start a new Xitter account, from zero.
 
Bloudwulf said:
You may know them from such classics as: "Pose Theft" or "Tracing".
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Or, in some communities (MMD for example), "Material/Texture Theft". They really feel like they're owed every bit of work they've done....honestly, silencing these fucking freaks should've been encouraged.
 
I stumbled upon this video and i think it's worth a look. I skimmed ahead and there's some bold takes the creator has made.
 
Absurdist Laughter said:
In film where you have to develop the film, print the film, reshoot, mask out problem negatives, create filters for those fixed negatives to enhance them, etc. all manually mind you just to get one good image requires the artist to choose a different workflow; ie shoot less photos.
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And even the process of developing isn't just "go into a dark room and dunk it in chemicals." Printing is also complicated and a manual process. Sometimes your best shot is too dark in some places and too light in others and you want it to look a specific way. So you have to do "dodging and burning," which is literally often just waving an opaque object like a piece of cardstock between the enlarger and the photo paper, or literally doing a stencil cutout to expose the paper even more for a darker image, but you also may have to jiggle it a bit to avoid there being obvious lines.

Source: hey I just took an undergrad course in it. Wish I'd learned to get better at it, but it was fun anyway. It's nice to have at least a vague idea how someone like Ansel Adams did what he did.

Remember, when they first came out with this it was also called the death of art. Now there are dodging and burning tools in Photoshop and any real alternative to it.
 
Someone made an AI model that can create a timelapse video for any image:
https://lllyasviel.github.io/pages/paints_undo/ (warning! shitton of automatically loading videos! will lag your browser if you're on mobile and load forever if your internet is slow!)

It doesn't have to be anime, although the results aren't that good then:
Of course, antis are already seething:

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