Aging Kiwis - Deterioration, hard to spell... no effort to do. Tell your story, ask advice and respect your elders god damnit.

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I thought life was more interesting when I did every research chemical I could get my hands on. Turns out I was trying to make something happen, if only in my mind. When you get old, life is boring and nothing ever happens.
That's why you gotta get a wife and have kids. When you have kids things just happen, sometimes they're scary things, sometimes they're heart-warming things. Or so I imagine, I'm far from that currently. It's like the saying goes, you have to first make things happen before things can happen.
 
That's why you gotta get a wife and have kids. When you have kids things just happen, sometimes they're scary things, sometimes they're heart-warming things. Or so I imagine, I'm far from that currently. It's like the saying goes, you have to first make things happen before things can happen.
I can tell how young you are. For a lot of kiwis, that ship has sailed.

When you get older, you just grapple with that your best days are behind you. The memories pull you down instead of being remembered fondly. Hobbies and laughing at people on the internet are fine distractions. Feelings are stupid on the internet.
 
That's why you gotta get a wife and have kids. When you have kids things just happen, sometimes they're scary things, sometimes they're heart-warming things. Or so I imagine, I'm far from that currently.
What an emotional rollercoaster. If you're gonna retell the Shawshank Redemption as your own story, you might as well not add a final chapter where it was all a dream.
 
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While I am not usually achy as I get older I am getting more blackpilled and sick of my fellow man. :sigh:
 
I feel like the last, I dont know, 10 years? 20 years has just felt like one long day. I remember things Ive done, happy moments, triumphant moments, and they barely seem real sometimes. Like they happened to someone else. Other times they just dont resonate. The incredibly strong emotions of my 20s are just not here anymore, I dont completely mind.

Physically I had my first major hospitalization this year. It was probably a much needed wake up call that im not invincible anymore.

Its strange getting older. I dont really know how to feel about it.
 
Tendinitis from cranking too hard on bicep dominant climbs earlier this year. Recently (past few weeks) developing pain in one of my knees. I think it may have something to do with carrying 100+ pounds of climbing gear half a mile to a mile through the woods in less than ideal terrain. Nearing 40, my children are under 6 years old and playing with them is taxing. Thank fuck my wife makes me eat healthy or I'd probably already be dead.

Right now the knee has me slightly worried, took today off from climbing on account of it (in the past month I've maybe walked 30 miles total with all my climbing stuff). I'll stop once the kids are big enough to carry some of the stuff. So, like, maybe another decade.
 
I'm pretty lucky at the moment being in my mid 40s, and even though I'm pretty overweight I don't have any chronic pain. My heart and lungs are healthy. My cholesterol and blood pressure are normal. My A1C is slightly elevated but not in the realm of pre-diabetes. My liver enzymes are a little elevated too thanks to me being tricked into believing the scam of "we just need to find the right combination of medications to help with your depression and anxiety" several years ago.

I'm walking 3 miles a day, almost fast enough to start jogging. The only thing stopping me is the big gut. After 3 miles of fast walking my lower back is tired from carrying it around. Not sore or in any pain, just tired, which is why I'm able to do the walk every day. Despite the big gut, I have been blessed with not having a gunt. My back is getting stronger, too, though the gut hasn't shrunk any. I've done good at fixing my diet, eating less and cooking my own food instead of getting too many packaged meals or takeout. But from what I understand belly fat is tough to burn so it's the last to go when losing weight.

I'm keeping at it, though. I'm expecting I'll be one of those guys who gets hit with old age like a falling anvil to the head.
 
I'm pretty lucky at the moment being in my mid 40s, and even though I'm pretty overweight I don't have any chronic pain. My heart and lungs are healthy. My cholesterol and blood pressure are normal. My A1C is slightly elevated but not in the realm of pre-diabetes. My liver enzymes are a little elevated too thanks to me being tricked into believing the scam of "we just need to find the right combination of medications to help with your depression and anxiety" several years ago.

I'm walking 3 miles a day, almost fast enough to start jogging. The only thing stopping me is the big gut. After 3 miles of fast walking my lower back is tired from carrying it around. Not sore or in any pain, just tired, which is why I'm able to do the walk every day. Despite the big gut, I have been blessed with not having a gunt. My back is getting stronger, too, though the gut hasn't shrunk any. I've done good at fixing my diet, eating less and cooking my own food instead of getting too many packaged meals or takeout. But from what I understand belly fat is tough to burn so it's the last to go when losing weight.

I'm keeping at it, though. I'm expecting I'll be one of those guys who gets hit with old age like a falling anvil to the head.
If you put yourself on a calorie deficit diet the weight will fall off you. I’d really recommend going the gym too as your muscles healing will burn even more calories.

Just join a corporate gym and hit the weight machines. Once your strength and confidence builds up you can move into free weights.

It’s never too late to start lifting and, whilst it’s a meme, it’s great for your mood.

Also get into a good and regular sleeping pattern.

You can do it, kiwi bro.
 
you gotta get a wife and have kids.
When you have kids things just happen,
Or so I imagine,
lol
First you should grow up, anon. Having kids and a family isn't as much about you as it is about the kids themselves. They're not there to make you feel safe, you're there to make them feel safe, that is if you're a grown person at all.
That's the biggest issue with rad trad conservotard influencers spewing this argument, many of whom are universally from well off families with massive privileges in life and think that anyone can make it, as if for most people life isn't a horror show of constant trauma and hardship, and if most people would actually drop everything and have kids as a priority, these kids would inherit the same horror show, just as the rich cunts inherit their shit, thinking they earned it, or in the poors case, thinking they deserve it.
In short, having a family is a great concept, but you MUST be ready for that cause it's a massive sacrifice.
While I am not usually achy as I get older I am getting more blackpilled and sick of my fellow man. :sigh:
I'm not that old myself, but I've been through enough disappointments in people and society at large.
With age though you kinda stop thinking about it as much and just stop caring how shit everything is in the most positive way. All the spit in your eye makes it cleaner or some shit.

When I think about it, best advice I'd give to youngsters is to watch your health, physically and emotionally, cause that shit does NOT last as long as you think it will.
 
First you should grow up, anon. Having kids and a family isn't as much about you as it is about the kids themselves. They're not there to make you feel safe, you're there to make them feel safe, that is if you're a grown person at all.
I agree with you there, but I don't think people have kids for entirely unselfish reasons. Especially here in eastern europe I think a lot of people have the notion that they need to have kids so someone takes care of them when they're old. For me, the notion of having kids is selfish in the sense of having someone whose benefit you work and struggle for. Living only for yourself unto old age seems sad and empty. (Although, not necessarily, since there are many ways you can have a positive impact on the world.)

But yes, you are right, my initial post was rather thoughtless.
 
I agree with you there, but I don't think people have kids for entirely unselfish reasons. Especially here in eastern europe I think a lot of people have the notion that they need to have kids so someone takes care of them when they're old.
That's why it's generally a stupid idea, because if you're not willing to make the big, long, hard sacrifice in raising those kids, it's less and less of a chance they'll take care of you. Even if you do make it, the kids may end up as shits and leave you or even die before you grow old.
It's an old notion from centuries past where big families were a norm and it was a given the family sticks together and takes care of each other, but in a globalized world that notion is disappearing, sad as it is. And more and more people are simply incapable of raising good families anymore.
For me, the notion of having kids is selfish in the sense of having someone whose benefit you work and struggle for. Living only for yourself unto old age seems sad and empty. (Although, not necessarily, since there are many ways you can have a positive impact on the world.)
Some people are forced to be old and alone and merit doesn't guarantee you that you won't be old and alone regardless if you build a big family or not. The whole point of looking into a family as purely an investment as if it's a retirement plan is a bad idea that can backfire real bad and real soon. Maybe your kids don't turn out right, maybe you have some midlife crisis and get depressed and you won't even be able to figure out why.
The main reason to have a family is to share love not only among your own, but also with society in raising some good kids who will be a benefit not only to you, but to others. Having a family is a great thing, but, as said it takes a colossal sacrifice, but more often these days it does not work out, families tear each other apart and everyone stills end up alone. This is why we're so deep in a moral crisis.
All the bullshit about population rates, lack of workers for the future is just political propaganda that's severely outdated. So is the bullshit that family is a guaranteed benefit of love and care that's propagated by rich cunts who can't even imagine hardship and poverty and big business who want your kids to grind the bottom gears for cheap. Their motives to promote the "nuclear family" is purely for their own gain, not your or society's gain. They'll drain you and your kids out and throw you into garbage.
But yes, you are right, my initial post was rather thoughtless.
It has to be said that if you do feel an urge to have a family, you should go for it. Out of all goals in life to have, a family is one of the greatest ones to have. You don't have to be super rich or big strong cool man to raise a good family, but you will need to pour all your love and your strength into it, and be ready for the possibility that it may not work out. It's like Shakespeare's line about better to have loved and lost instead of ever having loved at all. You just have to find the right people to love and care for and they will care for you no less.
 
So this is the old folks home
About 6 months later had sex in sauna. Got this feeling I have to stop and was wrecked for couple of hours.
How was the other guy?
broken one rib trying to do some moves meant for younger people.
Nigga you made of glass
My biggest issue is my plummeting sex drive. Sometimes I go months with zero interest.
I could use that, getting laid these days its a fucking chore but you gotta do it, idk how things were back when this shit was made but 30something bitches now sure arent as desperate as this makes them to be:

They are all entitled as fuck now, got stuck with a tinder cunt who lied about her age and had a billion filters to cover her wrinkles, and despite that she still had a list of demands, can you believe this shit? and then they cry about ghosting

It was way easy to get laid in my teens and 20s
30+ years of daily drinking finally caught up with me, and now I legit need a new liver. I have a liver bypass procedure scheduled for next month, so if I quit posting toward the end of June, it probably means I didn't survive.
Now this is real shit, hope you make it dude
get a reasonable amount of sun, and be outdoors as much as possible
Idk if you live in some frozen ass place really up north but in any temperate area everyone I know who works outside ages as shit, same with people who really like the beach, I seen some who are 10 years younger than me but look 10 years older
Kid watching youtube. Some annoying cat talking with annoying voice
You are raising a future furfag
 
It has to be said that if you do feel an urge to have a family, you should go for it. Out of all goals in life to have, a family is one of the greatest ones to have. You don't have to be super rich or big strong cool man to raise a good family, but you will need to pour all your love and your strength into it, and be ready for the possibility that it may not work out. It's like Shakespeare's line about better to have loved and lost instead of ever having loved at all. You just have to find the right people to love and care for and they will care for you no less.
I think I do, but I'm well aware I have a lot of issues about myself I need to fix. I am working on it, but perhaps too slowly as I am approaching mid 30s. There have been people in my extended family who had kids in their 40s, but I think that's a grim thought. Truth be told, it may be completely over for me due to certain circumstances. This may be rather TMI powerleveling, but I have not pursued any kind of relationship since I finished university. I've just been working and otherwise being a shut in, so now I find I must relearn how to socialize, which is something I am working on.

All the bullshit about population rates, lack of workers for the future is just political propaganda that's severely outdated. So is the bullshit that family is a guaranteed benefit of love and care that's propagated by rich cunts who can't even imagine hardship and poverty and big business who want your kids to grind the bottom gears for cheap. Their motives to promote the "nuclear family" is purely for their own gain, not your or society's gain. They'll drain you and your kids out and throw you into garbage.
Hasn't this always been the case throughout history? I think it's always been the case that you should look out for yourself and those you love, but then even if you try your best sometimes it may not be enough.

It’s never too late to start lifting and, whilst it’s a meme, it’s great for your mood.
Yeah, it may be a meme, but from my own personal experience it really does help improve your mood. People are meant to be active and do stuff, not sit around and wallow in self pity.
 

long waters

I think I do, but I'm well aware I have a lot of issues about myself I need to fix. I am working on it, but perhaps too slowly as I am approaching mid 30s. There have been people in my extended family who had kids in their 40s, but I think that's a grim thought. Truth be told, it may be completely over for me due to certain circumstances. This may be rather TMI powerleveling, but I have not pursued any kind of relationship since I finished university. I've just been working and otherwise being a shut in, so now I find I must relearn how to socialize, which is something I am working on.
Guys have longer timespan to start families.
Worst case, you can marry old and adopt orphans or something. Some dudes are really adamant about leaving behind their stupid genes and the stupider, uglier the dude, the more adamant they'll be about it, calling adoption cucketry or some shit.
Hasn't this always been the case throughout history? I think it's always been the case that you should look out for yourself and those you love, but then even if you try your best sometimes it may not be enough.
Sure, but before it was common to have more births, even though death was always near, though survival depended on the flock and its size. Then there came a time when healthcare was better, lifespan was longer and birthing more secure, so you have a population boom. Now we live with excellent, albeit expensive, healthcare, but nobody wants kids. Economics didn't keep up and we're in this weird place when you don't need to look over your shoulder as much and you don't need kids as much either, but everyone's lonely as shit. Society will need to figure this out and economics will be crucial in all of this.
Yeah, it may be a meme, but from my own personal experience it really does help improve your mood. People are meant to be active and do stuff, not sit around and wallow in self pity.
Word.
I think fitness became a meme because of chud muscle freaks and psychos streoid enjoyers who take it too far. Trick is you don't need to over exert yourself and go easy with exercise, but do it on a regular schedule and it really does help a lot.
 
Idk if you live in some frozen ass place really up north but in any temperate area everyone I know who works outside ages as shit, same with people who really like the beach, I seen some who are 10 years younger than me but look 10 years older
that is the truth....the sun will age you faster than almost anything...i dont have any wrinkles whatsoever, and its because i avoid the sun like the plague.
that said, i WAS recently diagnosed with severe vitamin d (whatever) deficiency, but i would rather that than having leathery man skin as a woman.
 
How was the other guy?

Well someone seems to be in with the homo culture if that is first thing that comes to mind from word sauna.
Nigga you made of glass
When your size in man, not manlet landing a jump on your side is actually some energy delivered, but what would ya know of that.

You are raising
That happens when you shoot your loads... not in a bath house.

Up your game. Enjoy prison child.
 
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I'm walking 3 miles a day, almost fast enough to start jogging. The only thing stopping me is the big gut. After 3 miles of fast walking my lower back is tired from carrying it around. Not sore or in any pain, just tired, which is why I'm able to do the walk every day. Despite the big gut,
Please don’t run yet. Swim.

I had a big rant about this a while back in the running thread.

My journey from fat to not as fat was from the it hurt to walk phase to finished a marathon.

Start with swimming, it’s low impact. It trains your heart and lungs and teaches you that form is more important than effort. Starting with running while very fat will wear out your knee joints and the fat will compact/impact your spine on the lower vertebrae (hiking is fine and for people like us leads to calf muscles with cleavage).

When weight drops add in cycling.
When stamina increases and weight/resting heartrate drops further do fartlek training/c25k (same thing).

Then run.

Do hanging stretches for the lower back and keep them gradual, like only to the point of tension and hold, never to pain, release the stretch slowly. The same applies to all stretching. Most back muscles are triangles, learn to stretch the different angles of each muscle.
 
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