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African gangs in Melbourne are a problem, police admit, as Victorian Government defends strategy
By Brad Ryan and Guy Stayner
Updated 27 minutes ago

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VIDEO: Acting Chief Commissioner Shane Patton talks about 'young thugs' in Melbourne (ABC News)
RELATED STORY: African gang crime 'out of control' in Melbourne: Greg Hunt
MAP: Tarneit 3029the trashing of an Airbnb property in Werribee, vandalism in Tarneit and a night of violence at St Kilda Beach involving dozens of youths.




Just days after Victoria Police Deputy Commissioner Andrew Crisp said he did "not accept for a minute that we do have gangs", Acting Chief Commissioner Shane Patton said there were African street gangs in Melbourne.

"We have for a significant period of time said that there is an issue with overrepresentation by African youth in serious and violent offending as well as public disorder issues," Acting Commissioner Patton said.

"These young thugs, these young criminals, they're not an organised crime group like a Middle Eastern organised crime group or an outlaw motorcycle gang. But they're behaving like street gangs, so let's call them that — that's what they are."

More frontline police
Ms Neville said most African migrants were law-abiding citizens, but "this core group of African youths are causing huge fear".

She said Victoria Police noticed youth offending "go to a new level" in 2016, and the State Government responded by:

  • adding resources to the gangs squad and special operations group
  • recruiting 3,135 additional frontline police
  • funding an intelligence system, bulletproof vehicles and other technology and resources.
"These resource are having an impact," Ms Neville said.

"We have seen substantial breaking up of a number of the networked youth offenders in other parts of the state.

"We've seen the biggest decrease in the crime rate in over a decade."

PHOTO: Cars were damaged when an Airbnb property was trashed in Werribee last month. (ABC News: Joanna Crothers)


Ms Neville said upcoming changes to the Youth Parole Board meant police would be informed when young people were paroled, and conditions would be placed on parolees to prevent reoffending.

A program that started in November was also targeting repeat offenders with intensive, individual case management, she said.

'Out of control'
Yesterday, Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull said the Government was concerned about "growing gang violence and lawlessness" in Melbourne, and frontbencher Greg Hunt said "African gang crime in some areas in particular is clearly out of control".

With a state election less than a year away, the federal Coalition is pushing the merits of its Victorian counterparts' law-and-order policy, including a pledge to introduce mandatory sentencing for repeat offenders behind crimes such as home invasions, armed robberies and aggravated car-jackings.

Sudanese youth mentor Nelly Yoa is also critical of the State Government.

"The punishments are not harsh enough. The Victorian Government has been so lenient on youth offending," he told ABC News this morning.

"We need to start from a grassroots level. Community engagement with these youths is paramount."

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VIDEO: 'It doesn't matter where you've come from,' says Sudanese youth mentor Nelly Yoa (ABC News)


But another Sudanese community leader, Richard Deng, said the Prime Minister should be more supportive of the State Government's efforts.

"[The] African community shouldn't be used as a political tool to win [an] election," he said.

Ahmed Hassan, the director of an organisation that helps marginalised young people, said the proportion of African youths involved in crime was a small minority.

"We seemingly don't have an African gang problem — what we do have is young people who are disadvantaged, who are disengaged, a young cohort who are coming together that are causing this mischievous activity," said Mr Hassan, who runs the Youth Activating Youth program.

Shadow attorney-general John Pesutto said the Government should drop Youth Control Orders — a sentencing option requiring young offenders to take part in education or work and comply with conditions such as curfews.

"Now is not the time to be introducing measures from Daniel Andrews that will make it easier … for violent offenders to remain out on the street," he said.

PHOTO: Rocks were thrown at police outside an Airbnb property that was being damaged. (ABC News: Joanna Crothers)


Stats shed light on problem
Data from Victoria's Crime Statistics Agency, below, shows an overrepresentation of Sudanese-born and Kenyan-born offenders in some crime categories, proportional to their Victorian populations.

They also show a sharp rise in Sudanese-born offenders involved in armed robberies, from 20 in the 2014-15 financial year to 98 two years later.

However, the statistics also show that a Victorian is more than 25 times more likely to be seriously assaulted by someone born in Australia or New Zealand than someone born in Sudan or Kenya.

They are almost five times more likely to be the victim of an aggravated burglary committed by an Australian or New Zealand-born offender, than one born in Sudan or Kenya.

According to Census figures, people born in Sudan make up about 0.1 per cent of Victoria's population. The Kenyan-born population in Victoria is about the half the size of the Sudanese-born population.

Serious assault
Alleged offender's country of birth 2014-15 2015-16 2016-17
Australia 1,699 1,576 1,462
New Zealand 87 75 91
Sudan 29 50 45
Kenya 4 10 15
Aggravated burglary
Alleged offender's country of birth 2014-15 2015-16 2016-17
Australia 182 504 540
New Zealand ≤ 3 6 28
Sudan 20 53 98
Kenya ≤ 3 17 20
Non-aggravated burglary
Alleged offender's country of birth 2014-15 2015-16 2016-17
Australia 2,166 1,670 1,773
New Zealand 32 33 69
Sudan 57 29 54
Kenya 10 ≤ 3 17
Motor vehicle theft
Alleged offender's country of birth 2014-15 2015-16 2016-17
Australia 2,021 2,211 2,078
New Zealand 63 141 151
Sudan 81 80 81
Kenya 5 35 21
Sexual offences
Alleged offender's country of birth 2014-15 2015-16 2016-17
Australia 317 379 361
New Zealand ≤ 3 8 ≤ 3
Sudan 5 9 6
All other countries 31 27 21
Source: Crime Statistics Agency (Victoria)

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-01-02/street-gangs-are-a-problem-in-melbourne-police-admit/9297984
 
They seem to be having problems in the area. Someone call the UN to fly them out to someplace more hospitable.
 
Teen gang deportation plan a 'death sentence', Sudanese leaders warn

A proposal to crack down on African street gangs by deporting offenders as young as 16 would effectively condemn them to "death sentences", Sudanese community leaders have warned.

With Melbourne facing a recent outbreak of youth crime, Federal Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton has said he is considering strengthening laws to automatically cancel the visas of criminals and boot out youth migrants who commit violent offences causing serious injury.

The changes were proposed by a parliamentary committee headed by Victorian Liberal MP Jason Wood, and have been backed by state Opposition Leader Matthew Guy, whose election campaign against the Andrews Labor Government centres predominantly on law and order.

But African leaders have warned that such a crackdown is out of touch and dangerous, pointing out that many youth offenders were in fact born here, while those who are not Australian citizens would be returning to war-torn death zones if they were to be deported.

"You essentially are cancelling young people's visas to send them into misery when, in my view, these young people have significant potential to be rehabilitated," South Sudanese Community Association spokesman Kot Monoah told the committee. "You are also sending them to death zones and condemning them to death sentences."

Community leader Richard Deng agreed with Mr Monoah's sentiments on Saturday, calling on the Turnbull government to stop playing politics and to instead work with the Victorian government and police to find solutions.

Last year, for instance, Mr Deng helped set up a team of fluoro-clad volunteers who patrol the western suburbs trying to prevent crime by engaging troubled South Sudanese youth.

The team has expanded significantly, with 30 volunteers now patrolling the Wyndham area, 18 patrolling the streets of Melton, and plans to recruit more volunteers across Melbourne's eastern suburbs, Maribyrnong and Dandenong.

"We acknowledge there is a youth crisis but we all need to work together," Mr Deng said. "Simply deporting people is out of touch. Keep in mind a lot of these people were born here. Many of these kids are Australian."

While law and order has been a longstanding problem for the Andrews Government, the majority of perpetrators are Australian adults, and the overall rate of youth crime has been gradually declining over the past decade.

However, the focus on the African community has intensified in recent weeks following a spate of high-profile offences, including an ugly brawl in St Kilda, the trashing of an Airbnb property in Werribee, and a crime spree in Hillside on Thursday night in which a 59-year-old woman was terrorised by a group of men who stormed the house she was looking after.

In what police described as an "abhorrent" incident by thugs, some of the men held the woman hostage in a front room and hit her in the face, while the others ransacked the property.

With a state election looming in November, the Coalition has seized on cases like this to portray Premier Daniel Andrews as a soft touch, and to attack Victoria's sentencing and bail system. Labor ministers, meanwhile, have accused the Federal Government of contributing to the problem by cutting funding to migrant settlement services and not doing enough to tackle disadvantage and other underlying causes of crime.

Mr Dutton stoked political tensions on Wednesday by claiming – without evidence – that people in Victoria were too scared to dine at restaurants at night "because they are followed home by these gangs".

On Saturday, however, Victorian Liberal leader Matthew Guy stopped short of endorsing the federal minister's comments, saying: "I know people very well in the western suburbs who are legitimately concerned about their own communities. Whether they're concerned about going out or not, I'll (leave judgement) to people who are facing that threat direct.

"But there is a crime problem in Victoria that is unique, that is considerable, and that the state government's doing nothing about," Mr Guy added. "It's not about African gangs, it's about gangs full stop."
 
the majority of perpetrators are Australian adults,


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Well this is what you get when you let a bunch of economic migrants from Africa into your country. It's time to start saying "Sorry, we're full" and sending them back. They aren't civilized enough to live in 21st century society. They just turn every place they go into the homeland they left. They leave their women back home to be raped and murdered by gangs so they can start a new life in the westernized world. By raping and murdering the women there.

They don't respect the police or the citizens of their host country. They do whatever they want because they don't care and most of them are too intellectually lacking to understand that this type of behavior isn't normal or accepted.

I think they should all be deported. But that never seems to happen.

Sudan is a lost cause. So we shouldn't be surprised that Sudanese rapefugees don't behave.
 
Well this is what you get when you let a bunch of economic migrants from Africa into your country. It's time to start saying "Sorry, we're full" and sending them back. They aren't civilized enough to live in 21st century society. They just turn every place they go into the homeland they left. They leave their women back home to be raped and murdered by gangs so they can start a new life in the westernized world. By raping and murdering the women there.

They don't respect the police or the citizens of their host country. They do whatever they want because they don't care and most of them are too intellectually lacking to understand that this type of behavior isn't normal or accepted.

I think they should all be deported. But that never seems to happen.

Sudan is a lost cause. So we shouldn't be surprised that Sudanese rapefugees don't behave.

I guess back in the old days when everyone just came from Italy or Russia or some other place, things were okay because people already knew how things worked. But these people come from completely different backgrounds, but everyone seems to be like "everyone thinks just like me!".

It's weird how countries accepting immigrants don't have a comprehensive course to introduce people into western society. I'm not sure if it would even help, but if you are going to be all "help da immigrants" at least teach them raping women in bikinis on the beach is not okay.

And also.
 
most of them are too intellectually lacking to understand that this type of behavior isn't normal or accepted.

That sounds like some lame courtroom defence.

If they have enough brain cells to get them half way across the globe they’re perfectly capable of knowing the difference between right and wrong.

Only one thing will make them understand and unfortunately mob violence is frowned upon by civil society.
 
Only one thing will make them understand and unfortunately mob violence is frowned upon by civil society.


Or deportation.
Prisons in countries like AUS are pretty cushy and generally preferable to freedom in their country of origin.
So if you are an immigrant and you choose to terrorise the public, fuck off.
 
Teen gang deportation plan a 'death sentence', Sudanese leaders warn

A proposal to crack down on African street gangs by deporting offenders as young as 16 would effectively condemn them to "death sentences", Sudanese community leaders have warned.

With Melbourne facing a recent outbreak of youth crime, Federal Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton has said he is considering strengthening laws to automatically cancel the visas of criminals and boot out youth migrants who commit violent offences causing serious injury.

The changes were proposed by a parliamentary committee headed by Victorian Liberal MP Jason Wood, and have been backed by state Opposition Leader Matthew Guy, whose election campaign against the Andrews Labor Government centres predominantly on law and order.

But African leaders have warned that such a crackdown is out of touch and dangerous, pointing out that many youth offenders were in fact born here, while those who are not Australian citizens would be returning to war-torn death zones if they were to be deported.

"You essentially are cancelling young people's visas to send them into misery when, in my view, these young people have significant potential to be rehabilitated," South Sudanese Community Association spokesman Kot Monoah told the committee. "You are also sending them to death zones and condemning them to death sentences."

Community leader Richard Deng agreed with Mr Monoah's sentiments on Saturday, calling on the Turnbull government to stop playing politics and to instead work with the Victorian government and police to find solutions.

Last year, for instance, Mr Deng helped set up a team of fluoro-clad volunteers who patrol the western suburbs trying to prevent crime by engaging troubled South Sudanese youth.

The team has expanded significantly, with 30 volunteers now patrolling the Wyndham area, 18 patrolling the streets of Melton, and plans to recruit more volunteers across Melbourne's eastern suburbs, Maribyrnong and Dandenong.

"We acknowledge there is a youth crisis but we all need to work together," Mr Deng said. "Simply deporting people is out of touch. Keep in mind a lot of these people were born here. Many of these kids are Australian."

While law and order has been a longstanding problem for the Andrews Government, the majority of perpetrators are Australian adults, and the overall rate of youth crime has been gradually declining over the past decade.

However, the focus on the African community has intensified in recent weeks following a spate of high-profile offences, including an ugly brawl in St Kilda, the trashing of an Airbnb property in Werribee, and a crime spree in Hillside on Thursday night in which a 59-year-old woman was terrorised by a group of men who stormed the house she was looking after.

In what police described as an "abhorrent" incident by thugs, some of the men held the woman hostage in a front room and hit her in the face, while the others ransacked the property.

With a state election looming in November, the Coalition has seized on cases like this to portray Premier Daniel Andrews as a soft touch, and to attack Victoria's sentencing and bail system. Labor ministers, meanwhile, have accused the Federal Government of contributing to the problem by cutting funding to migrant settlement services and not doing enough to tackle disadvantage and other underlying causes of crime.

Mr Dutton stoked political tensions on Wednesday by claiming – without evidence – that people in Victoria were too scared to dine at restaurants at night "because they are followed home by these gangs".

On Saturday, however, Victorian Liberal leader Matthew Guy stopped short of endorsing the federal minister's comments, saying: "I know people very well in the western suburbs who are legitimately concerned about their own communities. Whether they're concerned about going out or not, I'll (leave judgement) to people who are facing that threat direct.

"But there is a crime problem in Victoria that is unique, that is considerable, and that the state government's doing nothing about," Mr Guy added. "It's not about African gangs, it's about gangs full stop."
Good. If they're already rapin' ereybody out there, they won't be much better as adults.
 
"You essentially are cancelling young people's visas to send them into misery when, in my view, these young people have significant potential to be rehabilitated," South Sudanese Community Association spokesman Kot Monoah told the committee. "You are also sending them to death zones and condemning them to death sentences."

Maybe if Sudan wasn't such a shitty country other countries wouldn't have to rehabilitate their citizens.
 
Teen gang deportation plan a 'death sentence', Sudanese leaders warn

A proposal to crack down on African street gangs by deporting offenders as young as 16 would effectively condemn them to "death sentences", Sudanese community leaders have warned.

With Melbourne facing a recent outbreak of youth crime, Federal Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton has said he is considering strengthening laws to automatically cancel the visas of criminals and boot out youth migrants who commit violent offences causing serious injury.

The changes were proposed by a parliamentary committee headed by Victorian Liberal MP Jason Wood, and have been backed by state Opposition Leader Matthew Guy, whose election campaign against the Andrews Labor Government centres predominantly on law and order.

But African leaders have warned that such a crackdown is out of touch and dangerous, pointing out that many youth offenders were in fact born here, while those who are not Australian citizens would be returning to war-torn death zones if they were to be deported.

"You essentially are cancelling young people's visas to send them into misery when, in my view, these young people have significant potential to be rehabilitated," South Sudanese Community Association spokesman Kot Monoah told the committee. "You are also sending them to death zones and condemning them to death sentences."

Community leader Richard Deng agreed with Mr Monoah's sentiments on Saturday, calling on the Turnbull government to stop playing politics and to instead work with the Victorian government and police to find solutions.

Last year, for instance, Mr Deng helped set up a team of fluoro-clad volunteers who patrol the western suburbs trying to prevent crime by engaging troubled South Sudanese youth.

The team has expanded significantly, with 30 volunteers now patrolling the Wyndham area, 18 patrolling the streets of Melton, and plans to recruit more volunteers across Melbourne's eastern suburbs, Maribyrnong and Dandenong.

"We acknowledge there is a youth crisis but we all need to work together," Mr Deng said. "Simply deporting people is out of touch. Keep in mind a lot of these people were born here. Many of these kids are Australian."

While law and order has been a longstanding problem for the Andrews Government, the majority of perpetrators are Australian adults, and the overall rate of youth crime has been gradually declining over the past decade.

However, the focus on the African community has intensified in recent weeks following a spate of high-profile offences, including an ugly brawl in St Kilda, the trashing of an Airbnb property in Werribee, and a crime spree in Hillside on Thursday night in which a 59-year-old woman was terrorised by a group of men who stormed the house she was looking after.

In what police described as an "abhorrent" incident by thugs, some of the men held the woman hostage in a front room and hit her in the face, while the others ransacked the property.

With a state election looming in November, the Coalition has seized on cases like this to portray Premier Daniel Andrews as a soft touch, and to attack Victoria's sentencing and bail system. Labor ministers, meanwhile, have accused the Federal Government of contributing to the problem by cutting funding to migrant settlement services and not doing enough to tackle disadvantage and other underlying causes of crime.

Mr Dutton stoked political tensions on Wednesday by claiming – without evidence – that people in Victoria were too scared to dine at restaurants at night "because they are followed home by these gangs".

On Saturday, however, Victorian Liberal leader Matthew Guy stopped short of endorsing the federal minister's comments, saying: "I know people very well in the western suburbs who are legitimately concerned about their own communities. Whether they're concerned about going out or not, I'll (leave judgement) to people who are facing that threat direct.

"But there is a crime problem in Victoria that is unique, that is considerable, and that the state government's doing nothing about," Mr Guy added. "It's not about African gangs, it's about gangs full stop."

Black people don't want to live in a country that is full of black people.

Really makes you think.
 
This story is from Queensland, but I don't think it needs a separate thread.

Mother blames Centrelink for son's gang downfall

The mother of an African gang-member says her son fell onto the wrong side of the law because her Centrelink payments were inadequate, and she wasn't able to keep him properly entertained.

Mother-of-six Asha Awya made the claims to A Current Affair.

"The Centrelink money is not enough, sometimes I cut some of their entertainment," the Brisbane woman said.

She said her son thought: "If mum always not giving me money, there's no pocket money, then maybe I have to find a way of stealing and get my own money."

Her eldest son has spent time in prison, but details as to why he was arrested can not be released due to legal reasons.

Ms Awya says her son was in a gang before his arrest, and would organise meet-ups with other members on social media.

"They chat online, any excuse to leave home," the single mother said.

She also said a lack of employment opportunities, and "too many laws" contributed to her son's problems with the law.

"They came from a very traumatised environment, and coming to Australia, trying to fit in with the religion and the friends around them at school, is very challenging," Ms Awya said.

"We have all these laws, so it's just very confusing, and I feel sorry for the kids because they don't know how to deal with this.

"They end up smoking, and end up with group of the confused kids."

Ms Awya also said African youth felt isolated in the community.

"Maybe they're thinking it's a fun way to deal with the problem, but they don't know they're ending up in big mess later," she said.

"They end up stealing people's stuff, breaking into their car, or taking people's credit card.

"Any opportunity that come across, then they just do it to get their money to buy more and more drugs. They don't concentrate at school. Their mind is somewhere else. "
 
Teen gang deportation plan a 'death sentence', Sudanese leaders warn

A proposal to crack down on African street gangs by deporting offenders as young as 16 would effectively condemn them to "death sentences", Sudanese community leaders have warned.

With Melbourne facing a recent outbreak of youth crime, Federal Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton has said he is considering strengthening laws to automatically cancel the visas of criminals and boot out youth migrants who commit violent offences causing serious injury.

The changes were proposed by a parliamentary committee headed by Victorian Liberal MP Jason Wood, and have been backed by state Opposition Leader Matthew Guy, whose election campaign against the Andrews Labor Government centres predominantly on law and order.

But African leaders have warned that such a crackdown is out of touch and dangerous, pointing out that many youth offenders were in fact born here, while those who are not Australian citizens would be returning to war-torn death zones if they were to be deported.

"You essentially are cancelling young people's visas to send them into misery when, in my view, these young people have significant potential to be rehabilitated," South Sudanese Community Association spokesman Kot Monoah told the committee. "You are also sending them to death zones and condemning them to death sentences."

Community leader Richard Deng agreed with Mr Monoah's sentiments on Saturday, calling on the Turnbull government to stop playing politics and to instead work with the Victorian government and police to find solutions.

Last year, for instance, Mr Deng helped set up a team of fluoro-clad volunteers who patrol the western suburbs trying to prevent crime by engaging troubled South Sudanese youth.

The team has expanded significantly, with 30 volunteers now patrolling the Wyndham area, 18 patrolling the streets of Melton, and plans to recruit more volunteers across Melbourne's eastern suburbs, Maribyrnong and Dandenong.

"We acknowledge there is a youth crisis but we all need to work together," Mr Deng said. "Simply deporting people is out of touch. Keep in mind a lot of these people were born here. Many of these kids are Australian."

While law and order has been a longstanding problem for the Andrews Government, the majority of perpetrators are Australian adults, and the overall rate of youth crime has been gradually declining over the past decade.

However, the focus on the African community has intensified in recent weeks following a spate of high-profile offences, including an ugly brawl in St Kilda, the trashing of an Airbnb property in Werribee, and a crime spree in Hillside on Thursday night in which a 59-year-old woman was terrorised by a group of men who stormed the house she was looking after.

In what police described as an "abhorrent" incident by thugs, some of the men held the woman hostage in a front room and hit her in the face, while the others ransacked the property.

With a state election looming in November, the Coalition has seized on cases like this to portray Premier Daniel Andrews as a soft touch, and to attack Victoria's sentencing and bail system. Labor ministers, meanwhile, have accused the Federal Government of contributing to the problem by cutting funding to migrant settlement services and not doing enough to tackle disadvantage and other underlying causes of crime.

Mr Dutton stoked political tensions on Wednesday by claiming – without evidence – that people in Victoria were too scared to dine at restaurants at night "because they are followed home by these gangs".

On Saturday, however, Victorian Liberal leader Matthew Guy stopped short of endorsing the federal minister's comments, saying: "I know people very well in the western suburbs who are legitimately concerned about their own communities. Whether they're concerned about going out or not, I'll (leave judgement) to people who are facing that threat direct.

"But there is a crime problem in Victoria that is unique, that is considerable, and that the state government's doing nothing about," Mr Guy added. "It's not about African gangs, it's about gangs full stop."
Maybe they should've thought about that before forming violent gangs in a country that didn't want to kill them for no reason.
 
She said her son thought: "If mum always not giving me money, there's no pocket money, then maybe I have to find a way of stealing and get my own money."
The hood mentality spans oceans. Here is a quote about a kid who was killed by a homeowner during a burglary in 2016.
You have to look at it from every child’s point of view that was raised in the hood,” said Harris. “You have to understand… how he gonna get his money to have clothes to go to school? You have to look at it from his point-of-view.
It's "we need more gibs" from sea to shining sea!
 
Apparently, even the Aboriginals are starting to complain about the behavior of the niggers down in Melbourne. http://archive.is/cr5cA

Founder of Yothu Yindi says African gangs poor behaviour is an insult to First Australians

ONE of Australia’s most senior Aboriginal tribal leaders has delivered a sharp message to African gangs causing fear across Melbourne, telling them that their poor behaviour is an insult to the First Australians.

Witiyana Marika, 56, from Yirrkala community in northeast Arnhem Land, said images of young men brawling, smashing shops and frightening people were confronting and needed to stop.

“You are welcome in this country,” Mr Marika said. “I know you come from a place where bad things happen. But don’t make this country bad like your country.”

Mr Marika is a co-founder of the band Yothu Yindi and has toured to all corners of the world.
His people have lived with massive cultural disruption in the form of a bauxite mine forced upon them decades ago without their consent, yet have never used violence to protest it.

He draws his authority as a senior member of the Rirratjingu clan, where he is a custodian of both land and knowledge and is a senior figure in ceremonies. He recently led clans of Arnhem Land through long days of funeral rites for the late singer-songwriter, Dr G.

Mr Marika said if the youths would not listen to police, parents or community leaders in Melbourne, perhaps they would listen to indigenous Australia.

“Australia is Aboriginal land,” he said. “So, when you don’t respect Australia, you don’t respect Aboriginal people.”

Mr Marika said he struggled to understand why the African youths were running amok, but said his people — including one of his own sons who is at Monash University — had strong connections to Melbourne through education and sport and felt concern.

“I don’t understand why they do that,” he said. “Have they been hated or disliked?

“They are disrupting and spoiling things. Their spirituality is elsewhere. They need to reconnect with their spiritual world and meet people who understand mother earth and father sky.”

Mr Marika invited the African youths, who he said appeared detached from any form of acceptable culture, to northeast Arnhem Land.

“They need guidance,” he said. “They’d be welcome here, to come here and understand our culture. We will show them how to respect people, both our world and the balanda (white) world. By showing them our world, we can reflect them into their world.”

Mr Marika said he had African friends working at the local mine and said they were “friendly and smiley and they have a great life and work within society.

“But these (young) people think they can take anything, as if it’s theirs. No. That’s a bad way, to take other’s belongings. You got to show your respect.

“Live with the law that your father and mother have shown you. And show love to other Australians. And then we’ll show love to you and any other people living here.”
 
I wish I saved the post but I saw someone make a chart once of African/Middle Eastern countries with their respective punishments for rape and every single one of them penalized rape ranging from imprisonment to execution. So the excuse that they don't know any better is absolute nonsense.
 
I wish I saved the post but I saw someone make a chart once of African/Middle Eastern countries with their respective punishments for rape and every single one of them penalized rape ranging from imprisonment to execution. So the excuse that they don't know any better is absolute nonsense.
Yeah, I mean, for all the raping migrants do, it's not like it's a welcomed act back home. It's on par with stealing, in that they'll get their hands chopped off or flogged or something like that.

They know better, they just believe it's OK when the blue eye'd devil woman goes tra-la-la-ing around uncovered. To them, they see an uncovered woman and basically see a crackwhore prostitute in the gutter.
 
Apparently, even the Aboriginals are starting to complain about the behavior of the niggers down in Melbourne. http://archive.is/cr5cA

Founder of Yothu Yindi says African gangs poor behaviour is an insult to First Australians

ONE of Australia’s most senior Aboriginal tribal leaders has delivered a sharp message to African gangs causing fear across Melbourne, telling them that their poor behaviour is an insult to the First Australians.

Witiyana Marika, 56, from Yirrkala community in northeast Arnhem Land, said images of young men brawling, smashing shops and frightening people were confronting and needed to stop.

“You are welcome in this country,” Mr Marika said. “I know you come from a place where bad things happen. But don’t make this country bad like your country.”

Mr Marika is a co-founder of the band Yothu Yindi and has toured to all corners of the world.
His people have lived with massive cultural disruption in the form of a bauxite mine forced upon them decades ago without their consent, yet have never used violence to protest it.

He draws his authority as a senior member of the Rirratjingu clan, where he is a custodian of both land and knowledge and is a senior figure in ceremonies. He recently led clans of Arnhem Land through long days of funeral rites for the late singer-songwriter, Dr G.

Mr Marika said if the youths would not listen to police, parents or community leaders in Melbourne, perhaps they would listen to indigenous Australia.

“Australia is Aboriginal land,” he said. “So, when you don’t respect Australia, you don’t respect Aboriginal people.”

Mr Marika said he struggled to understand why the African youths were running amok, but said his people — including one of his own sons who is at Monash University — had strong connections to Melbourne through education and sport and felt concern.

“I don’t understand why they do that,” he said. “Have they been hated or disliked?

“They are disrupting and spoiling things. Their spirituality is elsewhere. They need to reconnect with their spiritual world and meet people who understand mother earth and father sky.”

Mr Marika invited the African youths, who he said appeared detached from any form of acceptable culture, to northeast Arnhem Land.

“They need guidance,” he said. “They’d be welcome here, to come here and understand our culture. We will show them how to respect people, both our world and the balanda (white) world. By showing them our world, we can reflect them into their world.”

Mr Marika said he had African friends working at the local mine and said they were “friendly and smiley and they have a great life and work within society.

“But these (young) people think they can take anything, as if it’s theirs. No. That’s a bad way, to take other’s belongings. You got to show your respect.

“Live with the law that your father and mother have shown you. And show love to other Australians. And then we’ll show love to you and any other people living here.”
When even Abbos think you've gone too far.
 
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