African-American Appreciation Thread - Not Actually an Appreciation Thread

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Ponzo said:
A 2011 study suggested that only 30-50% of people globally experience some form of inner speech. Others just don't. I would not be surprised if sub-saharan africans are in the "lower than 30%" end of numbers
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Yes. No speech, and no concrete concepts (like a specific apple vs. a vague impression of one). They're NPCs.

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Have you seen "reasoning model" LLMs? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reasoning_language_model

Basically, you ask a question, and instead of just giving you an answer straight away, it has a conversation with itself in order to work out the answer. The process is very similar to how a person with an internal monologue works out an answer - by talking to himself.

I have a hypothesis that we could test for an internal monologue by asking a person a question that requires engaging "system 2" cognition: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thinking,_Fast_and_Slow but telling them that they're not allowed to say anything out loud other than the answer. I suspect that some people simply cannot do it - not without speaking aloud.

I think that a lot of the loud, obnoxious behavior of black people, where they just chatter constantly, is them attempting to engage "system 2" but without an inner monologue. So for example, if you're watching a movie and you figure out some important plot point, you might do that internally - saying silently to yourself, "ah ha! this is what the bad guy is going to do!" But a person with no inner monologue doesn't have that option. They have to say it aloud or just not think it at all.

If my hypothesis is correct, they can actually answer the breakfast question if you prompt them to work it out by speaking aloud. It'd be fascinating to study this, but nobody would publish your results.

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Obviously, not all black people. And obviously, some white people's brains work this way too. But as with most things, the percentages between the groups are different.
 
byron said:
I think that a lot of the loud, obnoxious behavior of black people, where they just chatter constantly, is them attempting to engage "system 2" but without an inner monologue. So for example, if you're watching a movie and you figure out some important plot point, you might do that internally - saying silently to yourself, "ah ha! this is what the bad guy is going to do!" But a person with no inner monologue doesn't have that option. They have to say it aloud or just not think it at all.
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My addendum to this is that this type of behavior prolonged over a long enough period of time causes schizophrenia. Nothing to substantiate this, just that I think it's funny.
 
byron said:
Not that I know of.

I looked through the videos I've saved and found an example, but the reason I saved it was because it was during the George Floyd thing and I kept encountering redditors who would claim that such things never, ever happen to whites. It was always fun to show them counterexamples (before I would get banned).

Looks to be a crazy (white) guy in the subway in NY. Black cops try unsuccessfully to subdue him, then just go ahead and shoot him.

Black Cops gun down Unarmed White Man (#WHITELIVESMATTER)-7mHKvX6AA6s.mp4

Just to be clear, I don't necessarily give a shit about this guy. Even if he dindonuffin, he should submit to arrest and then tell it to a judge. The point is, this really does not seem like a justified shooting. If you swapped the races here, there'd be rioting.

But as I liked to point out on reddit back in the day: none of you has ever seen this video. It doesn't make the news, because the news is racist against white people.
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It drives me nuts because it's "privileged" whites who've never had run-ins with police. Because they've been spoonfed this bullshit narrative of systemic racism and evil white cops everywhere, they attribute their lack of negative police encounters with their "white privilege." In reality, they're law abiding citizens who don't do stupid shit. This is doubly dangerous because they also don't understand that we have a policing problem that affects everyone. Cops are just bastards, poorly trained, stupid, and have the strongest union ever backing them.

There's that one video somewhere on KW where this fat cop is wrestling with this kid and shoots him in the head. Parents called the cops on him and just watch him get executed. I'm just now watching your vid.

Holy shit @ how fat and ineffective that black beast is. Fat, lazy cops just increase the odds they shoot people. The dude is just as bad, wtf is going on? He lets go of the dude and just decides to tell his partner to shoot him? Is this our new fear unlocked, mentally retarded blacks overtaking the police force and executing us for nothing?

Do you have the backstory on that shooting? Google brings up 35647 similar cases.
 
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byron said:
I have a hypothesis that we could test for an internal monologue by asking a person a question that requires engaging "system 2" cognition: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thinking,_Fast_and_Slow but telling them that they're not allowed to say anything out loud other than the answer. I suspect that some people simply cannot do it - not without speaking aloud.

I think that a lot of the loud, obnoxious behavior of black people, where they just chatter constantly, is them attempting to engage "system 2" but without an inner monologue. So for example, if you're watching a movie and you figure out some important plot point, you might do that internally - saying silently to yourself, "ah ha! this is what the bad guy is going to do!" But a person with no inner monologue doesn't have that option. They have to say it aloud or just not think it at all.
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i think you're absolutely right

also the lack of an internal monologue may not be the lack of any ability to think words, but rather the lack of a constant ONGOING internal monologue
perhaps some people with this issue only think when they're prompted to think

Retreaded Tire said:
Hey guys let's make Ozzy's death about the nigras

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>both black people
which two?
 
i also like the phrasing
"tread carefully when you're talking about these subjects"
i can't tell if she's implying we might will metal music out of existence by not believing in it, like it's fairy magic
or, the more likely implication, that she's saying that we better watch our words carefully and not anger the hoard
like "ey yo tony KEEP YO GODDAMN MOUTH SHUT you don't wanna stir trouble now, do ya? that's raight, you say what dey wantsta hear or else we gon have trouble!"
 
Point 707 said:
Black woman moves to Russia to escape 'systemic racism', gets into a fight with her neighbors, and the police don't give a shit.

Do you think she realized too late that American whites are actually the least racist people in the world?




https://x.com/AP4Liberty/status/1945884071932096928

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/black-woman-who-left-us-russia-escape-racism-beaten-neighbors



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it's actually crazy that you can hear the ghetto ass accent through the Russian language
 
Cuntspiracy Man said:
i also like the phrasing
"tread carefully when you're talking about these subjects"
i can't tell if she's implying we might will metal music out of existence by not believing in it, like it's fairy magic
or, the more likely implication, that she's saying that we better watch our words carefully and not anger the hoard
like "ey yo tony KEEP YO GODDAMN MOUTH SHUT you don't wanna stir trouble now, do ya? that's raight, you say what dey wantsta hear or else we gon have trouble!"
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She just wants to sound tough because her real life is a complete joke.
 
Jet Fuel Johnny said:
If it wasn't for Ol' Jigabbo Johnson tying a shoelace to a broom and Henry Mooncricket banging a log like a drum, your music wouldn't exist.

FUCK OFF, BITCH!
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To be fair, distortion was discovered when a black guy played an electric guitar through an amp with a busted cone and he liked the sound IIRC. And many have claimed that early metal was just the blues tuned differently with a tempo change.

But metal is white man’s music. If blacks want to lay claim to it because it’s first steps were black in origin, then we can claim black music belongs to whites because we created the instruments and tools that gave them the opportunity to play something other than hitting a rock with a stick. That, and free boat rides to the land of musical opportunity.
 
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