Advice on building a PC - "Who doesn't need 26 gigs of RAM?"

[lil bitch]

probably late to the party, but i got a lotta knowledge when it comes to this shit. building a PC right now, myself.
if you have any questions, OP, just message me about it.

 

[Just Some Other Guy]

I have three tips based on what I see. Swap the 580 for a 1060- personally, it's more bang for the buck as I see it. 6gb model should be more than enough. Or get a 1050ti if you're okay with something a bit less powerful.

Of course, in doing so you hike up the cost slightly but in turn, I have a solution:
Instead of buying Win 10 from Microsoft, try this site, which I've used myself a few times so I can vouch for it. They got Win 7 to Win 10 keys on the cheap. Much better than paying one-hundred-fucking-dollars for a lukewarm OS.

Third tip. Get an M.2 SSD. They're fucking fast. I recommend putting the OS on that, games on the regular SSD, and all else on the HDD, including important documents. It'll obviously last the longest of the three. Or use the M.2 for Linux- it's up to you.

Looks like Amazon is selling a EVGA 1060 6gb SC for only $200, so that's not a bad switch at all.

 

[Cubanodun]

Is buying a copy of Windows supposed to be a joke?

Pretty much, i mean wasting shitload of money in a OS that yeah is more or less stable but every update could fuck you very hard is not worth the investment also activating window is so simple that even a child could do it (Window 7 only required 1 click)

I always follow certain rules to be in budget because back in the day we had a cap to how much you could buy online

1) Go with AMD, seriously even when the benchmark worship Intel i prefer AMD because its cheap, its reliable, and they normally patch shit very quickly if something is wrong with hardware also you can pretty much found it anywhere (AMD was pretty much the standard here for some reason, intel was considered EVIL CAPITALIST SCUM)

2) Never go for low tier GPU (950,960,1050,1060) and never go for ATI, almost any software for gaming or emulation pretty much demand you to have Nvidia, try to find always the series xx70, they are good for what you want to do and i think they got more cheaper after the miners got bored with it

3) Only change monitors if there is a new standard resolution, it took me years to pass from a 720p monitor to one with 1080p (a Syncmaster TA550 is been my partner for years) im planning to go with another Samsung for 4k

4) 16 gb of RAM is a bit overkill, i stick with Corsair, i have a couple of 4 gb sticks Vengeance blue and they have not failed me even with seriously power spikes that happen here

And the PSU you added to the list is a bit weird, i consulted with a friend on Steam when i was building mine (i was a noob and my 970 fried the old chinese psu i had) that picked up a Rosewill and cost me 80 bucks , mine is a 750w gold certificate and that thing as survived our shitty electricity (power outs and spikes are pretty much the norm)

 

[Just Some Other Guy]

Pretty much, i mean wasting shitload of money in a OS that yeah is more or less stable but every update could fuck you very hard is not worth the investment also activating window is so simple that even a child could do it (Window 7 only required 1 click)

I always follow certain rules to be in budget because back in the day we had a cap to how much you could buy online

1) Go with AMD, seriously even when the benchmark worship Intel i prefer AMD because its cheap, its reliable, and they normally patch shit very quickly if something is wrong with hardware also you can pretty much found it anywhere (AMD was pretty much the standard here for some reason, intel was considered EVIL CAPITALIST SCUM)

2) Never go for low tier GPU (950,960,1050,1060) and never go for ATI, almost any software for gaming or emulation pretty much demand you to have Nvidia, try to find always the series xx70, they are good for what you want to do and i think they got more cheaper after the miners got bored with it

3) Only change monitors if there is a new standard resolution, it took me years to pass from a 720p monitor to one with 1080p (a Syncmaster TA550 is been my partner for years) im planning to go with another Samsung for 4k

4) 16 gb of RAM is a bit overkill, i stick with Corsair, i have a couple of 4 gb sticks Vengeance blue and they have not failed me even with seriously power spikes that happen here

And the PSU you added to the list is a bit weird, i consulted with a friend on Steam when i was building mine (i was a noob and my 970 fried the old chinese psu i had) that picked up a Rosewill and cost me 80 bucks , mine is a 750w gold certificate and that thing as survived our shitty electricity (power outs and spikes are pretty much the norm)

Never go ATI? You're kidding right? Now yeah, for the same price I'd take that 1060 SC over the RX580, but even at 1080p gaming aimed at 60 fps that 580 will handle everything fine. 16gb of ram may be a bit overkill, but for the price there really isn't much of a reason not to. The price of taking 8gb now and adding 8gb later doesn't scale as well as just grabbing a 16gb kit now. As for as the PSU, it's a Seasonic. Even if it's only bronze rated, it's still Seasonic, also it's fully modular and has a $20 MiR? Ol' JohnnyGuru reviewed the 650w version and it's a solid PSU.

 

[Dreamland]

As for as the PSU, it's a Seasonic. Even if it's only bronze rated, it's still Seasonic, also it's fully modular and has a $20 MiR? Ol' JohnnyGuru reviewed the 650w version and it's a solid PSU.

Just a little heads-up if you replace an existing unit, DO NOT use the old wiring if you used another brand and are not 100% sure the old one is a Seasonic rebrand. they use a similar connector but an entirely different pinout (at least on SATA/Molex connectors), don't be lazy and please replace all the wiring unless you wanna turn your shiny new SSDs into firecrackers.

You really chose KF over some tech/gamer/PC forum for this...?

You wanna use Resetera or gamefaqs instead?!

 

[Cubanodun]

Never go ATI? You're kidding right? Now yeah, for the same price I'd take that 1060 SC over the RX580, but even at 1080p gaming aimed at 60 fps that 580 will handle everything fine. 16gb of ram may be a bit overkill, but for the price there really isn't much of a reason not to. The price of taking 8gb now and adding 8gb later doesn't scale as well as just grabbing a 16gb kit now. As for as the PSU, it's a Seasonic. Even if it's only bronze rated, it's still Seasonic, also it's fully modular and has a $20 MiR? Ol' JohnnyGuru reviewed the 650w version and it's a solid PSU.

I picked the highest rating in PSU because the constant power failures that happened here i know the medal is power efficiency but it also helped that it did not come with Chinese components (according to the box that's it) , the ATI thing is more like a little prejudice of mine but after I builded my rig 4 years ago several people told me the same , that ATI was worth the investment , here we only saw Nvidias before the crisis, maybe it was because I never bothered or by now can test one

 

[Dreamland]

) Go with AMD, seriously even when the benchmark worship Intel i prefer AMD because its cheap, its reliable, and they normally patch shit very quickly if something is wrong with hardware also you can pretty much found it anywhere (AMD was pretty much the standard here for some reason, intel was considered EVIL CAPITALIST SCUM)

Zen+ isn't for everyone to be honest, it's memory system is very strange with the single-rank/dual-rank issues, f_clk being locked to the unduplexed memclk and it's gear-down signalling if you exceed ddr4-2666 (which will happen if you gayme). It's IPC is considered wanting and it generally is disappointing if you hold it against the 8700k for example. You do get a cheap and very servicable 8 core processor with an automatic overclocking routine and very competent included cooler tho!

t. ryzen 2700x user

 

[Just Some Other Guy]

Zen+ isn't for everyone to be honest, it's memory system is very strange with the single-rank/dual-rank issues, f_clk being locked to the unduplexed memclk and it's gear-down signalling if you exceed ddr4-2666 (which will happen if you gayme). It's IPC is considered wanting and it generally is disappointing if you hold it against the 8700k for example. You do get a cheap and very servicable 8 core processor with an automatic overclocking routine and very competent included cooler tho!

t. ryzen 2700x user

Very impatiently waiting for the 7nm chips. That will hopefully be another big game changer.

 

[Doc Cassidy]

I picked the highest rating in PSU because the constant power failures that happened here

I have the same problem so I bought an APC for like thirty bucks and it gives me about an hour or two of power which is more than enough time to shut everything down. Usually my power just kicks of for ten seconds so it works perfectly for me. Good investment.

 

[GodWarrior]

Get some nerd to build it for you and pay him with a Chik Fil A dinner.

 

[RG 448]

Just get an alienware.

 

[Cubanodun]

Just get an alienware.

ewwww with a Alienware you are only paying for the case, to much money imo

 

[BroccoliBrain]

Don't cheap out on a case like I did, I got some easily scratched crap with absolutely no instructions or guidelines included in the box which made my first build a pain in the ass.

 

[Just Some Other Guy]

Just get an alienware.

You did get me curious on what Alienware and Falcon NW offer nowadays, holy shit what a racket they're running.

 

[d12]

Hello again, I've been doing some research and something I've been seeing is the debate between whether or not an anti-static bracelet is necessary for assembly. I am curious on what people here think, is an anti-static bracelet a necessity?

 

[Dreamland]

Hello again, I've been doing some research and something I've been seeing is the debate between whether or not an anti-static bracelet is necessary for assembly. I am curious on what people here think, is an anti-static bracelet a necessity?

Never managed to fry anything without one, just wear a tshirt w/o sweater, and lean on/touch the case to stay grounded to it's mass. I guess it makes sense if you work with electronics daily.

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole]

Hello again, I've been doing some research and something I've been seeing is the debate between whether or not an anti-static bracelet is necessary for assembly. I am curious on what people here think, is an anti-static bracelet a necessity?

Never had a problem without one but sometimes shit happens(to other people). You're mostly going to handle things by holding them around the edges anyway and that's just fiberglass.

Also, don't buy that SSD. IIRC it's a dram-less drive and that's not great, it significantly reduces performance. Life expectancy is also shorter for smaller drives, 40 terabytes written for that one, SSD's also gets slower the fuller they are so having more free space available is good.
The Crucial MX500 250gb is $42.99 on Amazon, that's a much better choice in performance/life expectancy/value, you can probably get a 500gb one for a bit over 60 bucks.

And get 16gb of RAM, now and then you'll hit the ceiling of 8gb and that's very annoying, Windows also have a thing where it starts swapping things out to disk if there's less than 20% free RAM available.

 

[Sable]

I'm wondering what to upgrade my GTRX980 to.


Mostly because I don't know if I'm going to stick to NVIDIA or wait, as I don't know how long the wait would be.

P.S I too have had no trouble being band-less.

 

[Just Some Other Guy]

I'm wondering what to upgrade my GTRX980 to.


Mostly because I don't know if I'm going to stick to NVIDIA or wait, as I don't know how long the wait would be.

P.S I too have had no trouble being band-less.

What type of gaming are you looking to do?

 

[Sable]

What type of gaming are you looking to do?

Shit, I dunno. I actually need to grab a screen from this decade though first.

I mostly want to be future proof TBH.

Definitely not VR though, I don't need to worry about anything like that.