ADL Adds 13/52 as a ‘Numeric Hate Symbol’ - FBI crime statistics are now hate speech.

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The ADL has listed the often memed 13/52 as a ‘Numeric Hate Symbol,’ joining the hateful ranks of the ‘OK Hand Sign,’ ‘Pepe The Frog,’ and ‘It’s OK to Be White.’

The 13/52 ratio meme rose to prominence in the past year as a means to evade censorship in promoting violent crime statistics–where 13% of the US population commit 52% of violent crime.

Specifically, the FBI found that America’s African American population, roughly 13% of its total, commits the level of crime.

In part, the meme is used to derail progressive egalitarian narratives surrounding crime, alluding to the possibility of there being another causal factor behind the commission of certain crimes other than so-called “systemic racism,” “institutionalized racism,” or wealth inequality.

According to the ADL website:

The number 13 used in conjunction with either the number 52 or the number 90 is a shorthand reference to racist propaganda claims by white supremacists against African-Americans to depict them as savage and criminal in nature.
In this numeric shorthand, the number 13 refers to the purported percentage of the U.S. population that is African-American. The number 52 refers to the alleged percentage of all murders committed in the U.S. that are committed by African-Americans. Some white supremacists use the number 50 instead of 52.
The meme itself isn’t factually correct. In fact, the 18-35 age group of the male demographic within the African American 13% of the US population is responsible for a large portion of 52% of the US murders, significantly reducing the 13 in 13/52.

On the ADL website, a lesser known 13/90 meme is mentioned:

Similarly, white supremacists claim the number 90 refers to the percentage of violent interracial crime allegedly committed by African-Americans. Some white supremacists cite the 1994 National Crime Victimization Survey produced by the Justice Department as evidence for the percentage. However, this figure does not show up in the survey itself and is not considered an accurate one. In any case, it should be noted that the vast majority of violent crime is intraracial (committed by a person of one race against a person of the same race), not interracial, in nature.
White supremacists typically employ references to 13 (by itself), 13/50, 13/52 or 13/90 in response to social media posts, and in the comments sections of news stories about crimes in which the suspected perpetrator is African-American. In some instances, white supremacists use the numbers as a purported police radio code, using language like, “We have a 1390 in progress.”
But it would appear that the ADL may apply a certain double standard in their hate metrics.

The acronym ACAB which stands for ‘All Cops Are Bastards’ is only hateful when certain people use it.

National File reported:

According to the ADL, “The acronym ACAB stands for ‘All Cops Are Bastards’ and is a slogan of long standing in the skinhead subculture.”
Interesting, the ADL continues that “Because non-racist skinheads (including “traditional” skinheads and anti-racist skinheads) may use this acronym as well as racist skinheads, it should be carefully judged in the context in which it appears.”
In short, the ADL seems to suggest that saying “all cops are bastards” may not be inherently racist, and if it is not said with racist intents, then it may not be a negative thing to say.
National File previously reported that the ADL officially placed the OK sign in its hate database, claiming that it has white supremacist ties:
In 2017, an online troll campaign began to trick the media into thinking that the OK sign was a white supremacist one, given how willing they are to decry anything as racist. As expected, the legacy media jumped right onto it, but the ADL themselves did not take the bait, and noted the trolling for what it was.
Despite knowing the entire thing was made up to incense the liberal media, the ADL on Wednesday declared that the OK sign was now an unironic racist symbol, and decided to include it in their hate symbols database.
National File also reported that ADL determined that anti-Antifa images are, indeed, hate speech:
After listing the ‘OK’ Hand Symbol and bowl cuts–yes, bowl cuts–as hate symbols; it appears as if the ADL has made another addition: Anti-Antifa images.
In the age of censorship led by elites to determine political outcomes, the ADL has let its mask slip in classifying seemingly innocuous symbols as hateful.

The OK Hand Symbol troll began on internet message boards such as 4chan, but the media and certain groups took issue with the symbol, identifying it with hate and ‘white supremacy.’
The ADL continues to deal with the fallout from a difficult year, that included the group being mocked after YouTube sensation Felix “PewDiePie” Kjellberg pulled a significant donation due to audience backlash.




What about 78% of the slave trade was owned and operated by... [ARRESTED BY LOCAL POLICE DEPARTMENT]
 
How the fuck do you get suspended from pre-school?
You try to send your toddler to preschool without ever instilling in her the most basic notion that when the teacher says sit down, she needs to sit her ass down. You let your kid go against or ignore what you tell them to do until the moment you get really annoyed and scream and threaten violence, teaching kids 1.) they don't have to listen to the nice teacher who can't spank them and 2.) screaming and violence gets you what you want if no one is willing to scream louder.
 
So current classes of hate symbols: Hand gestures (OK sign), clothing (KKK hood), fictional characters (pepe), numeral (13/52), single letters (N). Where do we even go from here? What possible manner of primitive action can we use next?
 
lol it's like when Trump tweets 98 percent of asylum seekers never show up for their hearings and the media shout NO, it's akshually 96 percent!

That's kinda genius strategy. Get the number slightly wrong so your opponents do all the hard work for you and STILL prove your point. I bet there's a Scott Adams blog post about that somewhere.
 
The premise that referencing the facts themselves is hateful and should be punished is faulty, of course, because it presumes the ability of mind-reading to the accuser - which necessarily results in a situation where we claim saying the words is evil and not allowed, while simultaneously demonstrating that we can say them but you can't. When we say 13/50 we are talking about the injustice of how disproportionately high the amount of blacks who are criminally punished is, but when you say it it's obviously because you hate black people. And we judge this because we - msm, academia, etc - we have decided that we are the piper, and you have not paid us, therefore you are not entitled to transgress the rules as we are. You're not given a pass to sin because you haven't bought an indulgence from the church.

Of course, this has the (intended) result of shutting down discussion of why 13% of the population commits 50% of crime. The in-group has decided on the reasons - because white people are mean and unfair, basically - and you can never question these assumptions. I wager that the vast majority of people who say 13/50 want to bring up that the high crime rates of blacks is a self-fulfilling prophecy brought on by a cyclically enforced assumption that black people are helpless and never capable of being responsible for their own behavior or for the consequences of any events that happen in their lives. This is enforced by the very same people who want to shut you down and punish you if you question them.

Back when the biggest problem was still running, one episode they brought up a related racially-charged issue: IQ. Maddox, frightened of offending the piper as he was, said that even if it's true that the IQ of blacks is generally lower than whites, what are you helping by bringing it up? Sometimes the truth can cause nothing but pain so you should hide it, because (to steelman his point) if the supposedly lower IQ of blacks becomes common knowledge, then every black individual who is intelligent will suffer a life of closed doors in their face. But to that I say the same thing I say about why there are less women in some career fields, and why trans people kill themselves more, and why blacks per capitalist commit more violent crimes than whites: we talk about the truth so that you can properly identify the true causal factors, and correct them.

Maddox, with his typical lack of self-awareness, would have you believe that blacks are just incapable, period, and since there's no solution then the best we can do as a society is trick everyone with a benevolent lie. The piper in this case, by the same token, seems to believe that a tendency toward violent crime is inextricably linked to the black race, so talking about the causes can never produce positive change, it can only cause unfairness for the supposed minority of blacks who aren't tempted toward crime but will have the stereotype of averages held against them anyway. And since benevolent lies are the only possible positive choice, it's only okay to tell a truthful fact so long as you establish that you're using it to serve the approved setpiece of lies.

I've mentioned before but there was this little buzz in Minneapolis this fall about craft breweries, which are a huge thing here as in many cities, because supposedly they're a "white" hobby and aren't welcoming to nonwhites. No one who had half an ounce of honesty in them would seriously argue that craft breweries are not a total haven for progressive leftist politics, and I guarantee you there is not a single one that won't be totally welcoming to black customers. Yet said black customers just don't really partake very often. It must be because of bigotry right? Don't question that unless you're racist! ...but, how about other factors, like the fact that craft beer is expensive and a lot more white yuppies have that kind of disposable income than blacks do? Or maybe that blacks who show up are treated with too much kindness - that benevolent, "you're so well-spoken" racism that white leftist love to heap on their nonwhite tokens which actually alienates them far more? What are you helping by bringing it up, asks Maddox? The answer is that you are helping by identifying the actual problem so it can be treated instead of left to fester. If your power goes out and we all pretend it's because, say, your neighbor is racist because he still has his Christmas lights up in April, is it racist for someone to just ask if you're paid up on your bill? He can be shamed into taking them down despite the fact they aren't hurting anyone, but your food is still spoiling because your house has no power. Is your neighbor supposed to feed you out of his running fridge now too?

See my point is that you can't just declare a certain perspective to be truth and other factors are arbitrarily unimportant. IQ might be nonsense because the testing process doesn't work nearly as well as assumed. Blacks might commit more violent crime because they're chained to a welfare culture that destroys their families, and because any black men who attempt to speak out against the culture of machismo and homophobia and misogyny and everything else that holds them down, twitter and academia calls them lapdog race traitors who don't respect the "beauty" of black culture. Those points have in common that you're actually criticizing that dreadful racist white establishment who is causing these problems for blacks, but that same establishment will claim you're actually attacking blacks when you say any of it to preserve their own power.
 
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These numbers are only racist against whites. Low testosterone white beta male wagie watches "Mandolorian" on Disney+ while the aryan Negro lives as a free Man and commits many cool crimes. Being a criminal is one of the last remaining noble pursuits available in the modern world. Imagine feeling proud of being well adjusted to ZOG
 
AYANNA NO! HATE SPEECH!

Oh please. Shaquita put her baby in preschool so she can go get her hair did and fuck her new baby daddy without having to deal with her little welfare ticket for a few hours. It's no wonder her kids are out of control before they are out of pull ups. It's just glorified babysitting. If it wasn't for headstart some of these kids wouldn't even eat breakfast.

Stop blaming whitey and fix your damn communities. :mad:
 
Can we drop the pretenses already and declare the entire English language hate speech? Because at this rate, the ADL will declare everything a hate symbol.
 
Can we drop the pretenses already and declare the entire English language hate speech? Because at this rate, the ADL will declare everything a hate symbol.
Anything dem crackas made is rayciss if they diggin it on the dl, you feel me fam?
 
Just skip a few steps and declare being a white, conservative male a "hate lifestyle"and get it over with. Honestly at this point who are you even trying to fool?
 
Can you explain this please?
Sure. Basically, I don't believe that intelligence and intellectual/academic capability are sufficiently defined by a single number determined by any one paper test. I find arguments about the lower average IQ in shitty undeveloped areas like the nations of Africa to be particularly specious because by the very nature of these derided populations living in countries with terrible or nonexistent infrastructure, I don't buy any claim that testing of these populations can be performed with any degree of comprehensiveness. No one questions the fact that an endless stream of charity still can't deliver enough foodstuff to just keep children from starving, but I'm supposed to believe we have an accurate and reliable picture of their formally measured intelligence? Please.

Related to food, and also to my above argument that there are other factors which contradict the approved narrative... proper nutrition hugely impacts the ability of a human brain to perform academically. If a grown man in Uganda spent most of his childhood starving so badly that he never knew which days he'd be able to get a bite of bread, his brain won't be performing well no matter how fairly you test his IQ. And if a black teenager in the US grows up being fed shitty fast food and soda - or, you know, also starving like any African kid - not nearly as many black kids will score well enough on their SATs to enter good colleges fairly.

This does not mean I think it's fair or appropriate to punish Asian kids by raising their bar and lowering that of black kids so that we can show off a pretty quota. Just like calling beer breweries racist and expecting that to magically make blacks participate more, the problem with black kids is that they come from a shitty culture that feeds them terribly, abandons them when they show weakness or emotion, and teaches them the toxic lesson that succeeding academically or planning for their future is either "acting white" (and therefore presumably bad, despite the fact white people succeed more because they act white all the time) or it's just foolishly hopeless because of omnipresent and undefeatable racist conspiracies and the only way to win the game is to give up and toss the board. Putting more black kids into college programs that they aren't prepared for not only solves none of that, it's going to make racial bigotry against blacks worse when we are constantly told they can succeed if just given the chance but they flunk out at much higher rates because they actually needed way more and no one is allowed to talk about it. The toxic left will call you racist for bringing any of that up, despite that ignoring those factors is tantamount to an admission that they are the ones who believe blacks can't perform even if the field were otherwise even. But the toxic right tends to ignore it too and chalk it up to genetics. They might argue that there's no difference in what I say because those shitty aspects of black culture propagate specifically because blacks are not intelligent enough to replace them with better behavior. But there are millions of uneducated white trash Americans living in a toxic failure cycle too, the kind of people who are all parents by 16 and have lost all their teeth to meth by 25 and get into fights and go to jail every time they drink because getting piss-drunk and violent is "just what you do" when you have a beer, they don't know any better, and I guarantee none of those white trash are any more likely to value the practices and behaviors that will elevate them academically and professionally and break the cycle. Ashlee-Jenfer and her baby daddy Jack-John living in Maquoketa, Iowa are every bit as jealous of, cruel and petty toward, and willing to sabotage their children in any attempt to better themselves as Breadquanda in East St Louis is toward her own 5 children by 6 daddies. Neither one understands how to love their children or plan enough to break out of the cycle, neither one can bank $50 for an investment because they see no reason not to drop it on bling and toys and drugs. And both have very different genetic backgrounds.

Think of it this way: every time we have a thread about some black dindu getting shot by the cops and the msm narrative is about how innocent he is and the bright future that was stolen from him, we all remember how many more white assholes get gunned down by cops and we never hear sob stories because it's not in the media's interest. Because bringing that up serves our righteous indignation at political correctness. But we should follow through and remember who those white people are - their IQ isn't any higher. Why would white people be getting gunned down so much if they're all intelligent, peaceful academics with superior genetics?

All I'm saying is that the IQ test is basically one aspect of a much larger and more complex spectrum of factors that explains what people are capable of, and more importantly why. I think it's a lazy cop-out to say that genetics cause the failure of black/African cultures and there's no changing it, especially because the same people arguing it always recognize that asians are getting screwed because of their obvious superiority because I know none of the white people making that argument are willing to say that it must be because the Chinese are genetically superior. If Chinese students are doing better than you because they're raised and trained right but blacks are doing worse than you because they're just subhuman apes who can't change their fate, it's time to reexamine how far you're willing to take your arguments just to score points on the dang dirty SJWs.
 
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I find arguments about the lower average IQ in shitty undeveloped areas like the nations of Africa to be particularly specious because by the very nature of these derided populations living in countries with terrible or nonexistent infrastructure, I don't buy any claim that testing of these populations can be performed with any degree of comprehensiveness.

This argument applies in America, too. Jensen and Rushton (IQ scientists) said that the IQ of AAs would be inaccurate because no white guy would go to the worst ghetto. The IQ would be depressed but the standard deviation would be a lot higher. More dumbasses, more smarties. You also have to account for immigrants.

I still think IQ is a useful tool. It has helped prisoners and the disabled. It shouldn't be worshipped, though.
 
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The ADL and the SPLC are basically if not defunct organisations at this point then morally corrupt, and I can't understand why anyone actually considers them to be a force for good in the world anymore.

They as organisations have outlived their purpose and now exist merely to self perpetuate themselves. The proof is in their actions, when was the last time that the ADL exposed something that wasn't either a hoax or a 4chan meme. I can't think of anything withing the last 10 years that has actually exposed anything, right or left wing in terms of hate groups that these guys have come up with.

Maybe it's because they aren't trying hard enough or they don't want to expose groups that are undeniably hate groups, but they find politically beneficial. Even their website is under reporting recent hate crimes coming out of New Jersey and New York, because there aren't any references to the ethnic background of the perpetrators.

The examples of the ADL finding hate symbols in things like Pepe, or bowl cuts, or the OK hand signs, signals to me that they have hit the wall in terms of actually being able to find hate groups, and have now started to devolve into seeing things that aren't there.

Hopefully they will go bankrupt soon.
 
Does anyone actually take the ADL seriously?
The FBI, your local police department and school district. And all your elected officials (especially Trump, King of the Jews).

This literally only serves for people to take things like the ADL less seriously. I'm quite fascinated with the longstanding trend of people seeking social justice creating situations like this. It's why I don't think liberal social justice in the modern sense will exist for much longer. It isn't sustainable putting guilt on a majority. The weak will hate themselves then slowly disintegrate, and the even slightly strong or average will continue with whatever they were already doing.
Yes yes the slippery slope will magically level off soon. Any time now.

So saying how many cards in a deck have Hearts on them is racist now? Shucks.
No. How many are Spades, on the other hand..

Sure. Basically, I don't believe that intelligence and intellectual/academic capability are sufficiently defined by a single number determined by any one paper test. I find arguments about the lower average IQ in shitty undeveloped areas like the nations of Africa to be particularly specious because by the very nature of these derided populations living in countries with terrible or nonexistent infrastructure, I don't buy any claim that testing of these populations can be performed with any degree of comprehensiveness. No one questions the fact that an endless stream of charity still can't deliver enough foodstuff to just keep children from starving, but I'm supposed to believe we have an accurate and reliable picture of their formally measured intelligence? Please.

Related to food, and also to my above argument that there are other factors which contradict the approved narrative... proper nutrition hugely impacts the ability of a human brain to perform academically. If a grown man in Uganda spent most of his childhood starving so badly that he never knew which days he'd be able to get a bite of bread, his brain won't be performing well no matter how fairly you test his IQ. And if a black teenager in the US grows up being fed shitty fast food and soda - or, you know, also starving like any African kid - not nearly as many black kids will score well enough on their SATs to enter good colleges fairly.

This does not mean I think it's fair or appropriate to punish Asian kids by raising their bar and lowering that of black kids so that we can show off a pretty quota. Just like calling beer breweries racist and expecting that to magically make blacks participate more, the problem with black kids is that they come from a shitty culture that feeds them terribly, abandons them when they show weakness or emotion, and teaches them the toxic lesson that succeeding academically or planning for their future is either "acting white" (and therefore presumably bad, despite the fact white people succeed more because they act white all the time) or it's just foolishly hopeless because of omnipresent and undefeatable racist conspiracies and the only way to win the game is to give up and toss the board. Putting more black kids into college programs that they aren't prepared for not only solves none of that, it's going to make racial bigotry against blacks worse when we are constantly told they can succeed if just given the chance but they flunk out at much higher rates because they actually needed way more and no one is allowed to talk about it. The toxic left will call you racist for bringing any of that up, despite that ignoring those factors is tantamount to an admission that they are the ones who believe blacks can't perform even if the field were otherwise even. But the toxic right tends to ignore it too and chalk it up to genetics. They might argue that there's no difference in what I say because those shitty aspects of black culture propagate specifically because blacks are not intelligent enough to replace them with better behavior. But there are millions of uneducated white trash Americans living in a toxic failure cycle too, the kind of people who are all parents by 16 and have lost all their teeth to meth by 25 and get into fights and go to jail every time they drink because getting piss-drunk and violent is "just what you do" when you have a beer, they don't know any better, and I guarantee none of those white trash are any more likely to value the practices and behaviors that will elevate them academically and professionally and break the cycle. Ashlee-Jenfer and her baby daddy Jack-John living in Maquoketa, Iowa are every bit as jealous of, cruel and petty toward, and willing to sabotage their children in any attempt to better themselves as Breadquanda in East St Louis is toward her own 5 children by 6 daddies. Neither one understands how to love their children or plan enough to break out of the cycle, neither one can bank $50 for an investment because they see no reason not to drop it on bling and toys and drugs. And both have very different genetic backgrounds.

Think of it this way: every time we have a thread about some black dindu getting shot by the cops and the msm narrative is about how innocent he is and the bright future that was stolen from him, we all remember how many more white assholes get gunned down by cops and we never hear sob stories because it's not in the media's interest. Because bringing that up serves our righteous indignation at political correctness. But we should follow through and remember who those white people are - their IQ isn't any higher. Why would white people be getting gunned down so much if they're all intelligent, peaceful academics with superior genetics?

All I'm saying is that the IQ test is basically one aspect of a much larger and more complex spectrum of factors that explains what people are capable of, and more importantly why. I think it's a lazy cop-out to say that genetics cause the failure of black/African cultures and there's no changing it, especially because the same people arguing it always recognize that asians are getting screwed because of their obvious superiority because I know none of the white people making that argument are willing to say that it must be because the Chinese are genetically superior. If Chinese students are doing better than you because they're raised and trained right but blacks are doing worse than you because they're just subhuman apes who can't change their fate, it's time to reexamine how far you're willing to take your arguments just to score points on the dang dirty SJWs.
That's a very long way to say 'I'm ignoring the fact that IQ tests are one of the best predictors of performance in all intellectual tasks and many that aren't obviously intellectual'.

No normal person takes a great deal of pride in the fact that their race is better or worse at some particular metric. This is simply a fact of biological reality, and individual differences are a product of chance.
 
The FBI, your local police department and school district. And all your elected officials (especially Trump, King of the Jews).

Looks like the only way the ADL lost support of the FBI, school districts and local police departments is being hit with some scandals like the SPLC had with their offshore accounts and/or the misconduct of some members of the board exposed like Morris Dees.
 
The ADL and the SPLC are basically if not defunct organisations at this point then morally corrupt, and I can't understand why anyone actually considers them to be a force for good in the world anymore.

Honestly, that is the problem with agencies and bureaucracy like the ADL. Once it becomes an organization, once major hurdles have been solved, what purpose does your organization serve? Now the ADL serves to justify the ADL by any means necessary, rather than its original purpose. They want to keep their cushy jobs and will fight tooth and nail for their benefits, rather than be morally just and close down like they should. I honestly think the ADL is just a greedy and manipulative organization that is a net drain on society and all members that are true staff should have a good honest look at themselves and ask if what they are doing is truly right, or if it is just for personal gain.
 
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