Law Abolish the Jury?

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  • The jury system has been abolished in most countries.
  • Juries are supposed to be impartial, but they are typically biased and susceptible to media influence.
  • Juries often do not have the requisite knowledge to fully decide complex legal questions.
On paper, the jury is the paragon of democracy. But is it really?
The concept of the jury trial is often credited to King Henry II, who convened groups of 12 “free and lawful” men to decide disputes over land. The expansion of the British Empire spread the jury system throughout the globe with the reach of the setting sun. But, most Americans don’t know that their jury system is now an anomaly in the developed world.

The jury system was abolished in Germany in 1924, Singapore and South Africa in 1969, and India in 1973. Today, even in those countries where the jury system still exists, it is used only sparingly or as part of a “mixed court” that includes both laypersons and judges. The vast majority of all jury trials that occur today are held within the United States.

The Biased Jury​

The Sixth Amendment grants the right to an “impartial jury.” Herein lies the first problem. Nothing about today’s juries is impartial. The process of voir dire (jury selection) has transformed into a mini-trial in and of itself, with opposing counsel fighting vigorously not for impartiality but also for advantage. In essence, attorneys are fighting to secure jurors who are biased to think in ways that support their party's narrative while excluding those who are biased in the opposite direction.

Confirmation bias is the psychological tendency to seek out, attend to, and better recall information that confirms one’s pre-existing attitudes and beliefs, while at the same time discounting or ignoring information that is contrary to one’s views (see e.g., Nickerson, 1998). This type of bias can cause jurors to rely more heavily on certain pieces of evidence or arguments that support their worldview — a particularly insidious problem in trials with ambiguous or conflicting evidence. In today's hyperpoliticized environment, confirmation bias forms a potent problem for impartiality. For example, in one recent study from Anwar, Bayer & Hjalmarsson (2019), conservative mock jurors were more likely to convict defendants with Arabic names, whereas more feminist jurors convicted with greater frequency when the victim was a woman.

Attorneys have their own biases when determining who to try to exclude from the jury during voir dire. For example, prosecutors will often try to exclude Black jurors under the theory that they are less likely to agree with police and the justice system. “Peremptory challenges” allow a party to exclude any prospective juror without the need for any reason or explanation — just, poof, that juror is excluded. For decades, peremptory challenges have been used discriminatorily to exclude Black jurors. In the 1965 case of Swain v. Alabama, an all-white jury in Talladega County, Alabama, convicted a 19-year-old Black man of raping a 17-year-old white girl. The man was subsequently sentenced to death. During voir dire, the prosecutor had used six peremptory challenges to remove from the jury pool every Black individual eligible to serve. The Court’s review of records later revealed that not a single Black person had served on a criminal trial jury in Talladega County for more than a decade.

Although the 1986 case of Batson v. Kentucky outlawed removing prospective jurors solely due to their race, it did little to change the status quo. Prospective jurors can still be removed “for cause” with relative ease. An attorney need only make a reasonable argument that they wish to exclude the potential juror for some factor other than race, even if discrimination is actually their true motive. Indeed, data from the American Bar Association and Equal Justice Institute show that Black individuals are still excluded from juries at disproportionally high rates.

The extreme political polarization and racial strife in South Africa were actually at the crux of the nation's decision to abolish their jury system. Legislators feared that rampant racial prejudice would make it impossible to secure an impartial and fair jury.

Media Influence and Pre-formed Opinions​

Today’s 24/7 media coverage and our inextricable tethering to electronic devices further complicates impartiality. Consider the trial of Kyle Rittenhouse. Although the judge instructed jurors not to discuss the case or watch any media related to the case, it is a fanciful dream to believe that each juror complied with this directive entirely. The only real protection against media influence is jury sequestration, meaning that jurors are isolated in hotels throughout the trial and deliberation. In extreme cases, televisions and laptops are removed from hotel rooms, and phone calls can only be made in the presence of a court official. Sequestration is a draconian measure that most judges do not like to impose. And, in high-profile cases, the media coverage that occurs prior to a trial has likely already influenced each juror’s opinions anyway. For example, a seminal meta-analysis of 23 articles involving a total of 5,755 participants and including 44 effect sizes found that exposure to negative pretrial publicity increased the likelihood of guilty verdicts (Steblay et al., 1999).

Ill-Equipped and Often Capricious Decision-Making​

Most jurors are not only inherently biased (as we all are to some degree!) but also are ill-equipped to complete their duty. Jurors with zero legal training are frequently tasked with deciding cases involving brain-melting issues like patent law or medical malpractice. Prospective jurors with experience in the subject matter at hand are usually excluded during voir dire because they “know too much.” As a result, juries often consist of people who are not fully able to understand the issues before them. Consider again the Kyle Rittenhouse trial. Although the entire case revolved around the singular issue of self-defense, the instructions provided to the jury were 36 pages long and difficult for me (a practicing attorney) to understand. Today’s legal codes have simply evolved magnitudes in complexity compared to the times of our Founding Fathers.

Perhaps no one fears a jury more than a lawyer. We tend to advise our clients to avoid juries like the plague. This is because they are so utterly unpredictable. For attorneys, presenting a case before a jury is like taking a plunge from an unknown height. Countless jury verdicts have shocked the public over the years, from Casey Anthony’s acquittal to $28 billion in punitive damages awarded to a single plaintiff. Such verdicts might provide interesting fodder for water cooler talk, but they do nothing for the pursuit of uniform justice.

Moving From Jury Trials to Bench Trials

I contend that the United States should consider moving away from the standard jury process and instead shift toward “bench trials” in which a panel of judges decides a case. It is possible that the average trial would benefit greatly from adjudication by a team of trained legal professionals who swear an oath to remain impartial. Of course, because the right to a jury is enshrined in the Sixth Amendment of the Constitution, scaling back this fundamental right would require Herculean acts by Congress. That said, a formal inquiry into the risks and benefits of bench trials should be undertaken by established legal and psychological bodies in order to inform the public of this "alternative" to our centuries-old jury process.

There is no doubt that the jury system has valiant aims. But I question if it still comports with today’s society. The reality is that juries are seldom impartial and seldom equipped to understand the issues before them. The entire process also imposes a burden upon citizens who must take time away from their jobs, worry about their potential safety, and potentially be traumatized with the evidence they observe or stigmatized by the decisions they make. Not to mention the extraordinary amount of time that is consumed by the jury process. American court systems are notoriously backlogged and congested. As a result, prosecutors are often inclined to offer plea bargains to avoid a protracted trial, while defendants tend to accept them due to their fear of an irrational and unpredictable jury. The result is that 97 percent of all federal criminal cases end with a plea bargain. In the civil system, court dockets are so overwhelmed that parties regularly wait years before actually going to trial. Removing the jury process — from selection to deliberation — could seriously shorten the length of trials and allow more defendants to actually have their case heard by professionals equipped to understand their complex issues.
 
"Our efforts to convict someone in the court of public opinion, and to intimidate a jury into rendering the verdict we wanted, failed. So we must abolish the jury because reasons."

Fucking neck yourself. This reminds me of how Democrats pissed and moaned that the Electoral College should be abolished-something they want to do only when they lose.
 
But how can you risk getting a biased nazi literally Roland Freisler judge like the one on KKKyle's case?
 
I wouldn't trust my fate to twelve people who were too stupid to get out of jury duty.
You are dumb if you try to get out of it. Who do you want on a jury a guy like yourself or some rando? That's why you do it even though it is an inconvenience. This leaves mostly civic-minded people on the jury and the selfish parasites bail.
 
>The extreme political polarization and racial strife in South Africa were actually at the crux of the nation's decision to abolish their jury system. Legislators feared that rampant racial prejudice would make it impossible to secure an impartial and fair jury.

In 1969? Not bloody likely.
Actually, it could have been about racial strife...between the Anglos and the Afrikaners.
 
If jury came back with guilty or hung, and Schroeder ruled "mistrial without prejudice" (or whatever it was) we'd be seeing "ABOLISH JUDGES!11!!1!!" articles.
 
If you don't trust a jury, it is your Constitutional right to request a Bench Trial.

I wouldn't trust my fate to twelve people who were too stupid to get out of jury duty.
I've served twice, thank you for insinuating I was too dumb to do my job properly in either case.
 
Confirmation bias is the psychological tendency to seek out, attend to, and better recall information that confirms one’s pre-existing attitudes and beliefs,

Like you retards did with the Chauvin verdict?

...or doesn't that one count...
 
I've served twice, thank you for insinuating I was too dumb to do my job properly in either case.
Well I suppose I might get a freak who actually wants to do it, but I wouldn't trust my life to an insane person either.
 
I view jury duty as part of my social obligations, according to the social contract.

I've been on jury several times. The last time I was called, I was excused because I've been on several juries and I prefer law and order over anarchy but understand that the law is enforced by people and people make mistakes and some laws are unjust or applied unjustly.

Not surprisingly, the jury they excused me for was a jogger who raped some chick that the jury took less than 10 minutes of deliberation to find guilty.
 
TLDR: The jury can't be trusted to handle high profile cases because the press might influence them.

If we're going to restrict the Sixth Amendment right to have a trial by jury because the media's biases might rub off on the jurors, couldn't the argument be made to restrict the First Amendment's protections for the press? I respect jurors a hell of a lot more than I respect journalists so I could just as easily vomit out an article attacking their freedoms.

I won't though because repealing Constitutional rights based on the idea that people use them to say and do things you don't like is fucking retarded.
 
I can agree with the idea that no juror can really be considered unbiased in today's media saturated world, especially in the case of high profile media circuses. This of course isn't the fault of juries this is the fault of the media who lie and omit facts to get everyone to believe their propaganda.
Thing is, the Left are now trying to redefine "bias" as "wrongthink", as that which runs afoul of their sensibilities and narratives.
 
I can agree with the idea that no juror can really be considered unbiased in today's media saturated world, especially in the case of high profile media circuses. This of course isn't the fault of juries this is the fault of the media who lie and omit facts to get everyone to believe their propaganda.
Except, it didn't work, he was acquitted on all charges......

THe "problem" the OP is fretting over here is that the media, despite being biased as Hell, still can't, with 100% certainty, influence verdicts, even when all the propaganda stops are out, as well as the "dox/threaten Jury" and "threaten civil unrest " ones too.

If anything, someone who goes to court and sees in the actual evidence that there is literally nothing like what the talking heads at night on TV are saying is evidence only makes those 12 people in particular hate the media even more.
 
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I’d argue that the problem is not that jurors are exposed to media narratives before and during a trial, but that the media narratives themselves have a political bias.
The number of people out there (like Wil Wheaton, for instance) who thought throughout the trial that Rittenhouse had shot and killed three black men, and the constant lies of ‘rifle transported across state lines’ were real eye openers for a lot of people.

The fourth estate abandoning impartiality in favor of outrage, bias and clickbait in the service of a horrifying political/economic oligarchy is what has driven us to this point. So many articles are written with lies and manipulation to serve the interests of the elites that are terrified of whites and blacks saying to each other “it‘s not your people that are fucking my people… it’s rich people fucking us all and using the media to turn us against each other.”

I used to think that on the DOTR in my minecraft server we’d line up the lawyers, the politicians and the mega wealthy globalists. Now I think that manipulative journoscum should atone as well, by digging the mass graves that’ll be needed.
 
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