2024 Economic Collapse

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Is it Joever?

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This is your brain on Keynesian Kike shit.
Keynes was wrong. I prefer Austrian school as a description of economics. I didn't say a fucking thing about government intervention in those markets. I fundamentally disagree that any governing body should be able to print currency at will in a perfect world.

I'm merely stating that HHH is factually correct that if you're investing in this market and this economy ETFs are statistically your safest and often largest ROI.

Assuming the entire market is a sham and it falls apart, it doesn't fucking matter anyway. You play the game you're in.
 
Kek if you are right, and something does happens that absolutely demolishes the stonks, I will be listening and relishing the moment millions of hopeful retirees have their “investments” turned to ashes.
Real talk: anyone under 40 should be constantly cheering for this to happen and voting/acting in ways that will help bring it about. I don’t think most people understand what % of our earnings go, directly or indirectly, towards subsidizing the olds.

Rent/housing: when you buy a house, you’re usually the exit liquidity provider for some oldie who bought it for a tiny fraction of the price and did zero maintenance. Not to mention, these old bastards constantly voted in zoning restrictions and constantly protested at town hall meetings and stuff to stop any new construction in a crass maneuver to force you to buy their bags. This causes rents to skyrocket, too.

Inflation/government spending/taxes: where does all that money go, hmmm? Increasingly, to pay for cash payments and health insurance (Medicare) for olds. These payments are way in excess of the amounts they themselves ever paid into the system: that’s why these systems are going insolvent.

Covid lockdown bullshit and vaccines: olds were the only ones seriously impacted by Covid and they didn’t wanna die, so they forced the entire world to lock down to try to protect them. Costs incurred from this little adventure also fall at the feet of the olds.

Health insurance: Obamacare got rid of no coverage for pre existing conditions and got rid of charging more $$ if you’re old and sick. This is a direct transfer of premium cost from young and healthy to old and sick.

Enshittification of everything; pension funds heavily invest in private equity. Their whole business model is to buy perfectly decent brands, outsource that shit to the poorest slave labor retards it can source, and jack up the price as much as possible, thus extracting enormous wealth.

Municipal service (police, sewers, roads, transit): these all suck now because the majority of the city allocation in nearly every city goes to making payments to old former employees and not to actually providing services.

You can go through a million areas of the economy and daily life to see the destruction our gerontocracy has wrought. It’s everywhere and everything sucks and is increasingly retarded because too many people are fucking OLD.
 
Health insurance: Obamacare got rid of no coverage for pre existing conditions and got rid of charging more $$ if you’re old and sick. This is a direct transfer of premium cost from young and healthy to old and sick.
Incorrect, the price of insurance for the elderly is obscenely high compared to young people in the U.S. I was pricing out insurance for an elderly man and the cost was $900/mo vs $300/mo for a 33 year old on the same plan. Sure they can't decline you for a pre-existing condition, but the high deductibles on anything, but an enhanced silver plan which runs about $450/mo for a 33 year old and a grand a month for a person in their sixties. Makes what you are buying worthless anyway. But good news after cancer or an expensive procedure, you are afforded the privilege of only going into 12k a year in debt.
A gentle reminder that IRAs/401Ks are bankruptcy proof, so have a grand or ten in there when you inevitably are set back to 0 after a car crash or random accident.
 
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Incorrect, the price of insurance for the elderly is obscenely high compared to young people in the U.S. I was pricing out insurance for an elderly man and the cost was $900/mo vs $300/mo for a 33 year old on the same plan. Sure they can't decline you for a pre-existing condition, but the high deductibles on anything, but an enhanced silver plan which runs about $450/mo. Makes what you are buying worthless anyway. Barring cancer or an expensive procedure, you are afforded the privilege of not going over 15k in debt.

Nothing about what you said contradicts what I said about “old AND sick”. It’s insurance! It should really be way, way, WAY more to insure something that’s already end of life.

What about 3x seems unreasonable to you? It is heavily subsidized by the younger demographic, especially the absurdity that is Medicare.

EDIT: the exact law in Obamacare is that age based premiums cannot be more than 3x, which is clearly not enough and is a wealth transfer from young to old. Insurance companies will only be able to afford to insure an old person if they dramatically increase what they charge young people in order to make the math work on that 3x equation.

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Nothing about what you said contradicts what I said about “old AND sick”. It’s insurance! It should really be way, way, WAY more to insure something that’s already end of life.

What about 3x seems unreasonable to you? It is heavily subsidized by the younger demographic, especially the absurdity that is Medicare.

EDIT: the exact law in Obamacare is that age based premiums cannot be more than 3x, which is clearly not enough and is a wealth transfer from young to old. Insurance companies will only be able to afford to insure an old person if they dramatically increase what they charge young people in order to make the math work on that 3x equation.

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It's the same principle by which I subsidize all of the third world garbage driving illegally and uninsured in my area. Except those people aren't insured at all, pay no taxes, and disappear into the wind when they're released on bail. That's why my fucking insurance is so goddamn expensive.
 
It's the same principle by which I subsidize all of the third world garbage driving illegally and uninsured in my area. Except those people aren't insured at all, pay no taxes, and disappear into the wind when they're released on bail. That's why my fucking insurance is so goddamn expensive.

YES. All of this is incredibly distorting. Our society just constantly transfers costs to young, able bodied, responsible people. I guess this seems more “fair” to some people, but it really isn’t and it is burdening people way too much in a way that they haven’t been burdened ever before. It’s no wonder they aren’t having children — they’re already supporting too many people.
 
YES. All of this is incredibly distorting. Our society just constantly transfers costs to young, able bodied, responsible people. I guess this seems more “fair” to some people, but it really isn’t and it is burdening people way too much in a way that they haven’t been burdened ever before. It’s no wonder they aren’t having children — they’re already supporting too many people.
Supporting too many people that are bringing nothing to the table, at least in my area. We don't need farmhands. If they work, and most aren't, they're delivering food on doordash or some similar app. Most are taking free money and the incidence of crime has, frankly, increased notably.

It is economically not viable to rampantly import an entire class of people that are a net drain on society.
 
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What gains do you expect Hulk? Realistically tell me what sector you’re holding and the ROIC you expect 1 year, 5 years, and 1 decade from now. You seem in it for the long haul, what’s your plan big guy?
You could have just asked him for financial advice, no need to do the sperg song and dance.
24. Stop doing deadlifts, it’s not worth it.
This nigga has no idea what he is talking about.
 
well, life goes on and I'm disappointed about that.
You should be disappointed. If you’re young, you should always want the stock market, real estate, etc to crash. Young people should always want asset prices to crash because it represents a transfer of power from capital to labor and gives you the time and opportunity to buy assets.

People will try to convince you that recessions are awful because you will lose your job, but most people don’t usually stay unemployed for long, even during recessions.
 
It feels good to say I was right to HHH.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=bT8CRi9k4boHere’s that recovery bounce performance:
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About what? He said don't sell. Especially at a loss. That's still sound advice for anybody who's already in the market, specifically in ETFs.

Assuming you have faith that the stock market will continue existing, and that the dollar will be worth a shit. If the whole thing bites the dust, you'll be wanting guns, not germanium.
 
About what? He said don't sell. Especially at a loss. That's still sound advice for anybody who's already in the market, specifically in ETFs.

Assuming you have faith that the stock market will continue existing, and that the dollar will be worth a shit. If the whole thing bites the dust, you'll be wanting guns, not germanium.
Is it going to be better tomorrow? Or would you have hypothetically been better off selling today? You’re going to be at a loss for weeks or even months. But sure if you want to go the route of sitting on it for 10 years go ahead, you might make a profit off a coin flip.

With how America treats its economy in favor of NWO agenda I’d have to say I have very little faith in the system that brought us to this point.
 
Is it going to be better tomorrow? Or would you have hypothetically been better off selling today? You’re going to be at a loss for weeks or even months. But sure if you want to go the route of sitting on it for 10 years go ahead, you might make a profit off a coin flip.

With how America treats its economy in favor of NWO agenda I’d have to say I have very little faith in the system that brought us to this point.
The answer is that I don't know what the low point will be, so I can not time it. I can buy more as it goes lower to decrease my average share price and therefore increase my profit as it comes back up.

If I time it wrong, I can leave the market at a loss without the latitude to re-enter at a profitable position.
 
The answer is that I don't know what the low point will be, so I can not time it. I can buy more as it goes lower to decrease my average share price and therefore increase my profit as it comes back up.

If I time it wrong, I can leave the market at a loss without the latitude to re-enter at a profitable position.
There’s 3 human reactions to an event that requires impulsive action.
Fight, flight, or freeze.
You are either a freezer or hopefully in a positive outlook a fighter, however you cannot beat the market.
I am a flighter. I leave at first sight of danger.
You can either fix your situation or end up as Chris asking Sonichu twice, but in the Stone Age.
Either way. It’s still 50/50 if I’m right or wrong. I can confidently point and laugh at all those who stay on the sinking ship as I have nothing to lose. Meanwhile those aboard have everything to lose and pray for a brighter tomorrow.
 
There’s 3 human reactions to an event that requires impulsive action.
Fight, flight, or freeze.
You are either a freezer or hopefully in a positive outlook a fighter, however you cannot beat the market.
I am a flighter. I leave at first sight of danger.
You can either fix your situation or end up as Chris asking Sonichu twice, but in the Stone Age.
Either way. It’s still 50/50 if I’m right or wrong. I can confidently point and laugh at all those who stay on the sinking ship as I have nothing to lose. Meanwhile those aboard have everything to lose and pray for a brighter tomorrow.
It's not 50/50 that you're right or wrong. The position in which I benefit on the stock market exists if the market goes back up after a crash. It has always done such, even after the great depression.

Presuming that past performance has a correlation greater than zero with future performance, the odds tell me that I win in an index fund over time, regardless of a crash. If the dollar ceases to exist, none of my bets matter whatsoever.

It has nothing, whatsoever, to do with fight or fight. If you invest emotionally and not mathematically, you do yourself no favors.
 
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