2016 US Presidential Election Thread 2 - Always Darkest before Don

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And still no one cared. No one belittled me on this site for political reasons until this election. It is only people like you who do. I can't even describe how intolerant and subsequently intolerable you are.
I get you're a Trump supporter but even if I was (and I'm not for a variety of reasons primarily foreign policy ones) I'd at this point be looking at the polls, the debates, and the general reaction to Trump and going, "Yeah, I don't think he's winning this," and gracefully get myself drunk in anticipation of the coronation of the Lizard Queen.

Also nobody belittled you because you're just some fucking sperg who thinks hitler did nothing wrong, the general response was 'Oh that's nice, now let's talk about actually interesting shit like Chris' definition of spicy.' Quit having a fucking spergout over this Null, it's really not the hill you want to die on.
 
I get you're a Trump supporter but even if I was (and I'm not for a variety of reasons primarily foreign policy ones) I'd at this point be looking at the polls, the debates, and the general reaction to Trump and going, "Yeah, I don't think he's winning this," and gracefully get myself drunk in anticipation of the coronation of the Lizard Queen.

Also nobody belittled you because you're just some fucking sperg who thinks hitler did nothing wrong, the general response was 'Oh that's nice, now let's talk about actually interesting shit like Chris' definition of spicy.' Quit having a fucking spergout over this Null, it's really not the hill you want to die on.

Just throwing this out there: Null made his point clear. You can discuss politics without making yourself sound like an asshole.
 
Maybe opening your primary campaign with 'All Mexicans are rapists' (paraphrasing) and then alienating every other demographic that isn't white, male or without college education is a terrible idea?
Except he didn't say actually say that. That's what the media distorted his view to say. Hell, an editor for effin' Salon actually pointed that out. Your whole post is on how it's Trump's own fault that he's losing, and yet you repeat one of the distorted truths the media has been repeating.
 
Take a chillpill and stop chucking shit at me you pretentious cunt. I'm not one for letting random, boorish morons instigate me on my own site -- especially people no one would miss if they disappeared.
You have no idea how god damned silly this entire thing is. Like, I get you're triggered as fuck right now and you're honestly pissed enough at me to ban me from chat (When much like Hitler I did nothing wrong) but holy shit dude calm the fuck down. This isn't worth going into a tard rage over.
 
You have no idea how god damned silly this entire thing is. Like, I get you're triggered as fuck right now and you're honestly pissed enough at me to ban me from chat (When much like Hitler I did nothing wrong) but holy shit dude calm the fuck down. This isn't worth going into a tard rage over.

lol you have 30 second page loads fucking owned
 
It's tempting to dismiss Trump's candidacy as an outlier, but it's a disservice to the electorate to do. Trump won the GOP nomination because his message resonated with the majority of the primary voters. That group of people will still be Republicans on November 9th, and the party has to recognize their grievances and their existence. I've heard some of the typical GOP TV pundits - like Bill Kristol - act as if Trump's nomination was a fluke to be dismissed. That's a mistake. Whether the GOP establishment like it or not, he was chosen by the voters who felt as if their party no longer represented them. So they're going to have to acknowledge that fact as they move forward.

And that's not even bringing up the hard-Right conspiracy theorists, white nationalists, etc.

If Trump wasn't such a shitty human being, this race would be very different heading into its final weeks.
 
You have no idea how god damned silly this entire thing is. Like, I get you're triggered as fuck right now and you're honestly pissed enough at me to ban me from chat (When much like Hitler I did nothing wrong) but holy shit dude calm the fuck down. This isn't worth going into a tard rage over.
No, I don't think you get it. You are in zero position of power and you don't get to follow me around on my site flinging shit at me all the time. I'll send you to /cow/ to complain with the rest of the bitter mongoloids if you keep this up and I'll sleep pretty fucking well after. This isn't mad, this is status quo, just like how you like it. ~
 
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Jesus fuck. Calm down, both of you.

This is important, but it's not worth the display of male dominance you two are making it into.
 
It's tempting to dismiss Trump's candidacy as an outlier, but it's a disservice to the electorate to do. Trump won the GOP nomination because his message resonated with the majority of the primary voters. That group of people will still be Republicans on November 9th, and the party has to recognize their grievances and their existence. I've heard some of the typical GOP TV pundits - like Bill Kristol - act as if Trump's nomination was a fluke to be dismissed. That's a mistake. Whether the GOP establishment like it or not, he was chosen by the voters who felt as if their party no longer represented them. So they're going to have to acknowledge that fact as they move forward.

Said it before and I'll say it again. The white working class is dying in this country and is effectively the forgotten minority of the future. It doesn't help that Dems and the GOP alike are rubbing it in their faces with SJW crap saying "How does it feel??" Who's the only one who didn't do that? Trump.
 
I hope Trump wins just to piss off all the people I hate, even if it were worse I honestly don't care anymore. I came into this completely neutral and Trump making everyone cry is now my only reason for life. I know I am the person killing democracy, but his victory would be so satisfying for the first hour I watched it roll in.
 
Except he didn't say actually say that. That's what the media distorted his view to say. Hell, an editor for effin' Salon actually pointed that out. Your whole post is on how it's Trump's own fault that he's losing, and yet you repeat one of the distorted truths the media has been repeating.

I don't agree. This is the quote-
When Mexico sends its people they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you; they’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists, and some, I assume, are good people. But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we’re getting

That's why I used the guy with Mexican lineage example. Trump basically said that his dad or granddad ect is probably a rapist. He might add some are good people but its an afterthought. There's other ways of formatting that thought without it sounding like calling Mexicans rapists with a really, really weak hedge.

Exactly my point really.
Dude just stop. fucks sake.
 
Said it before and I'll say it again. The white working class is dying in this country and is effectively the forgotten minority of the future. It doesn't help that Dems and the GOP alike are rubbing it in their faces with SJW crap saying "How does it feel??"
It's one of those sad facts of reality in our current economic structure. There just isn't room really anymore for the sort of prosperity unskilled labor enjoyed before in this country to happen again, barring us by some miracle becoming the only nation capable of manufacture on the planet, and even then we're at the point where automation would still take away most of those jobs. The other problem is that the white working class is understandably unwilling to pack up roots and move out of areas no longer supportive on the same scale (coal mining towns for example) and also either unwilling or unable to shift into the category of skilled labor, or don't have those opportunities anymore.

It's sad, but I really don't see a solution for this at all.
 
It doesn't help that Dems and the GOP alike are rubbing it in their faces with SJW crap saying "How does it feel??" Who's the only one who didn't do that? Trump.

I agree, which is why the'll be more trump-like candidates in the future taking advantage of their misery while the political establishment ignores them.
 
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It's one of those sad facts of reality in our current economic structure. There just isn't room really anymore for the sort of prosperity unskilled labor enjoyed before in this country to happen again, barring us by some miracle becoming the only nation capable of manufacture on the planet, and even then we're at the point where automation would still take away most of those jobs. The other problem is that the white working class is understandably unwilling to pack up roots and move out of areas no longer supportive on the same scale (coal mining towns for example) and also either unwilling or unable to shift into the category of skilled labor, or don't have those opportunities anymore.

It's sad, but I really don't see a solution for this at all.

That would hold true if programs like affirmative action weren't propping up blacks and hispanics in this "new" market. If you look at statistics on economic progress, whites have benefited the least under Obama. This is very much a racial issue and white people are getting the shaft, at least since Obama has taken office. It's understandable to see such tremendous blowback in the form of someone like Trump. A policy of reverse racism in the White House only creates a new kind of racism.

Edit: Sourcing my claim on statistics
 
I agree, which is why the'll be more trumps like candidates in the future taking advantage of their misery while the political establishment ignores them.
The problem is that there isn't enough of them to carry an election anymore. They're a political dead end at this point which is why the establishment is moving on. It's a cold and calculated decision, and understandably the white working class is not happy about this, but it's just one of those things. Economics and politics change over time, same thing with demographics. People just end up left in the cold through no fault of their own.

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That would hold true if programs like affirmative action weren't propping up blacks and hispanics in this "new" market. If you look at statistics on economic progress, whites have benefited the least under Obama. This is very much a racial issue and white people are getting the shaft, at least since Obama has taken office. It's understandable to see such tremendous blowback in the form of someone like Trump. A policy of reverse racism in the White House only creates a new kind of racism.

Edit: Sourcing my claim on statistics

While I agree affirmative action needs a hammer taken to it to beat it back into shape, that doesn't entirely explain the economic issues of whites or blacks or hispanics. The general context this entirely taking place in should be looked at more than the individual moments, such as the rise of automation, China, and a shift in the general underpinnings of the American Economy away from being heavily dependent on manufacture.

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This is also why I find people like Trump so dangerous and morally repugnant. They promise a group that they'll fix everything wrong with them, and then exploit them to gain power and either make things worse or at best change nothing for these people. I get why they turn towards him, but that doesn't make the potential rise of racially and religiously charged populism any less dangerous than it was the first time around.
 
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