007 will be black - doesn't get anymore woke than this

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how excited are you for this

  • pretty excited

    Votes: 18 7.6%
  • not excited

    Votes: 75 31.8%
  • why oh why oh why

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Of all the things that are haram, few things are as haram as this.

I expect this will kill the franchise. And they'll deserve it.
 
They've done this, I think, to test the water. People have been going on for ages about either a black bond or a female bond so, why not both? They'll have this chick be in the film for ten, fifteen minutes tops. She'll probably make some quips, hit on a man (or woman, cause woke) and maybe kill some bad guys and audience reaction to her will decide whether they take the route of female black bond or just another dude. Then if people hate her, they'll just reboot for the next film and thus not have to acknowledge her at all. It's almost clever on their part but honestly, I cant see bond ever changing from what it is. The movies have always gone with the times but at its core, bonds always been bond. Just look at the changes and similarities between the 60s/70s/80s and modern day. All adapted to the times whilst keeping pretty much what makes James Bond, Bond. Just my two cents, but yeah - I don't think this is worth dwelling on.
Nah, it may test the waters for a female 00 spinoff. But lady broccoli has said(repeatedly), there would never be a female James Bond. It doesnt even make sense...

A ton if this stuff is just media conjecture...
 
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Well, I think it's an achievement to create a script that makes Moonraked look plausible, believable and grounded in reality.
 
They've done this, I think, to test the water. People have been going on for ages about either a black bond or a female bond so, why not both? They'll have this chick be in the film for ten, fifteen minutes tops. She'll probably make some quips, hit on a man (or woman, cause woke) and maybe kill some bad guys and audience reaction to her will decide whether they take the route of female black bond or just another dude. Then if people hate her, they'll just reboot for the next film and thus not have to acknowledge her at all. It's almost clever on their part but honestly, I cant see bond ever changing from what it is. The movies have always gone with the times but at its core, bonds always been bond. Just look at the changes and similarities between the 60s/70s/80s and modern day. All adapted to the times whilst keeping pretty much what makes James Bond, Bond. Just my two cents, but yeah - I don't think this is worth dwelling on.

Inb4 you end up being very very wrong like with those who defended Ghostbusters 2016, Wolfenstein New Colossus, and Captain Marvel.

Also this reeks of "Everybody clapped" and why is he acting like Captain Marvel is still in theaters?

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Also this was Mad at the Internet worthy. But it's true though, you should be able to have pattern recognition by now.
 
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Well, I think it's an achievement to create a script that makes Moonraked look plausible, believable and grounded in reality.

Okay. Now it's clear to me why they're doing this. If they establish as canon the autistic fan theory that 007 is a designation reserved for great spies (instead of being a single person, James Bond, played by different actors), they can make Woke Bond spinoffs without endangering the core franchise.

Or so they think. I'm ready to see it all burn at this point, honestly. Cleanse it with the flames of bankruptcy.
 
I was fine with Idris Elba but this... What's next?Santa Claus. Please don't tell me Santa Claus is black I need this.
I guess Idris is not woke enough.

The SNOY gods got angry at the Fleming estate for not accepting their offer of a cool black man that people actually like, so instead we’re getting an ugly black women who’ll likely be boring as fuck

Correction: Sony only distributes Bond, MGM is independently owned
 
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Poor Ian Fleming. Are there any relatives in his family who whold the rights to the IP, or they just sold the whole thing?

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Nvm just answered my own question - James Bond entered the public domain back in '15. It means that it's no longer copyrighted, just like Sherlock Holmes. And that's pretty much what they're doing, for the upcoming "Enola Holmes" movie.

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It's not really a Sherlock Holmes movie, it's some movie about his "sister"... a character created by an author called Nancy Springer for a book series (six books) that began publishing in 2006. And just uses the Sherlock universe probably because the story couldn't carry itself or draw any attention whatsoever.

This further strengthens my resolve to keep copyright in the hands of the inventor, or their chosen successors. Meaning, it prevents any hack from making a Sherlock Holmes story and make him do whatever they want - like adding a non-existent trans filipino midget sister.
Now I understand why The Mouse is so protective of their IPs, it's to prevent shit like this. But in their case, they circumvent rules to keep their works -and keep their fortune built on the backs of public domain characters themselves, ironically- out of the public domain forever.
Why couldn’t they just make Idris the new Bond? That would’ve actually been cool
I guess Idris is not woke enough.
I have zero problems with something as silly as Bond having a black actress.
The absolute state.
 
Now I understand why The Mouse is so protective of their IPs, it's to prevent shit like this.

Well, no. Disney has no principles. They ruined copyright in order to protect the integrity of their franchises, but only because it makes them richer.

If Disney cared about the integrity of their franchises outside of how profitable they are, they wouldn't be making The Little Mermaid black.
 
Well, no. Disney has no principles. They ruined copyright in order to protect the integrity of their franchises, but only because it makes them richer.
Yea that's what I was saying, they go out of their way to prevent their characters from entering the public domain. Permanent copyright is a different issue altogether.
 
Boycotting.

Honestly I think Idris could have pulled it off (if they basically just kept him a suave mfer with a palette swap and ignored that Reddit fan theory about how Bond is a bunch of different characters).

But half the charm of Bond is the womanizing. Female Bond ruins that (unless we get serial girl-on-girl stuff out of this in which case I'm back in).
 
Boycotting.

Honestly I think Idris could have pulled it off (if they basically just kept him a suave mfer with a palette swap and ignored that Reddit fan theory about how Bond is a

007D chess: is this being falsely reported to move the Overton Window on Bond and make people cool with casting a black dude as our favorite spy?

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"but he’s having to learn to deal with the world of #MeToo"

This is going to end well, I'm sure.

Get woke, go broke.
There's going to be an extended scene where black female Bond is going to chew old obsolete fucking white male Bond out for even looking at a woman funny, calling it right now.
 
Not defending anything; just throwing out a thought that I don't think they're going to change Bond from being a dude.
The "femme fatale" convention remains popular to this day. Of all the outrageous things they could do, making Bond a "kickass babe" is hardly the most far-fetched. They'll probably make her a lesbian though...
 
This is too far! 007? A woman?! How will they shoe in the female babes for Bond to fall for? There’s no way they’ll make her a lesbian too, the pandering will be too obvious.

I really don’t care in all honesty, but I do find it funny how open the pandering is these days.
 
There's going to be an extended scene where black female Bond is going to chew old obsolete fucking white male Bond out for even looking at a woman funny, calling it right now.

I love the idea that #MeToo, the epitome of online, "woke" slacktivist mob behavior, has changed the world for the better instead of just showing everyone which women to ignore or avoid.
 
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