US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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indomitable snowman said:
Can I just say I think I get more frustrated with "conservatives" who are stuck in the 2012 Mitt Romney camp than libtards. I think because of my background I get exposed to more than most. They usually go off on how trump led all the other conservatives to betray their conservative values. They huff and puff on how the conservatives they know are basically evil for following trump as some sort of cult leader.
I just shake my head and ask

"What was conserved before Trump"

I would agree trump is not a true conservative, but what does that even mean when his administration has been the only one to actually reduce the size of the government.
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this is also an aspect to consider about newcomers to the tent
the old tent LOST
 
Lolberts vary a lot like much more so then the two big parties

Both the most left wing and the most right wing state parties in the USA are lolberts shits funny as hell
 
BullfrogBill said:
The moment I decided I (really) liked Vance was after Charlie was killed and Vance went to personally pick Charlie's body up himself, and his speeches after where he refused to do the "muh both sides" shit. No, you could tell he was mad and hurt and that he wants those resposable to get what's coming to them, and he clearly wants to make things right again unlike so many other Republicans who care more about optics. Vance is so far ahead of most all other Republicans.
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Vance see good optics, Vance go get good optics. It's not like he had to sacrifice very much to visit, the vice president doesn't do much besides make phone calls.
 
BullfrogBill said:
The moment I decided I (really) liked Vance was after Charlie was killed and Vance went to personally pick Charlie's body up himself, and his speeches after where he refused to do the "muh both sides" shit. No, you could tell he was mad and hurt and that he wants those resposable to get what's coming to them, and he clearly wants to make things right again unlike so many other Republicans who care more about optics. Vance is so far ahead of most all other Republicans.
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There’s something really not right going on there. As of now, I trust everyone who was on that stage for the memorial less than I ever have before.

Justsomecicada said:
That’s happened historically too but you know what? It didn’t make them vote for the opposition and it certainly didn’t make them side with the opposition when SHTF

No shit blatant shit like the Kirk killing disgusted people but will they vote Republican in the mid terms? Only time will tell


keep in mind they didn’t just make the convention embarrassing, they dropped opposition to trans shit in the party platform and gay marriage

It would be one thing if they came in and was like

Alright I fucked up I am here to listen and learn

This is showing up and pushing for policy changes and leadership
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I paid attention to which of my local leaders, that I at that point still considered personal friends, did and said when they came back from the RNC.

I will say that my local Republican Party is split right down the center now. We’re in a civil war within our own local party.

If we spoke out against Amber Rose, Dave Ruben or the other absurdities they were pushing, we were attacked, by our own people.

Accepting the left and their policies is already destroying our Party. The Republican Representatives don’t mind because, and I quote, “we’ve had more donations then we’ve had in 20 years”

And that my friends, is the ONLY thing, left or right, that our elected and appointed Representatives care about. Next election, when we out all of “our sides” shit, is gonna be lit. They really should not turn on people when they have years and years of emails and texts and they are just as bad as the people they’re running against.
 
David Floyd George said:
Its lawyer argued that it shouldn't receive any jail time for its second arrest because it caught an STD in jail on its first arrest. This is what we have come to.
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I also conclude that he should not be put in jail for the same reasons, but I argue that a different punishment is in order for criminals who can't be imprisoned.
 
babyDunk said:
However, you should not be so open that you lose identity/goal/values .Look at some of the weird ass churches that have pride flags and drag queens as priests, they took the open door policy of the church to the max, with zero judgment or corrections.So inevitably, they ceased to be churches at all.
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I think the distinction should be made. I'm not saying anyone should be called a republican, or just anyone should be called conservative, whatever label. I'm saying if people come around on the actual ideas. The dumbest possible move, that's personally disgusting to me. Is "not good enough, you didn't always believe le right opinion". I really hate it. It's gay, it's what makes politics so shit. Especially modern politics.

People can say, "well my opinion is the objective truth so therefore I'm right to hate the non-believers, because they didn't listen sooner". But that is literally what the left did. and that is how they got where they are now.

It's not even about the success of the right. It's a principled point to me. I hate the hypocrisy.

Besides that. There are people that are prominent right wing figures now that were leftists. If the right did that gay shit, it would have failed to get where it is now. That's a fact.
 
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prollyanotherlurker said:
Is "not good enough, you didn't always believe le right opinion".
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No one argued this shit until newcomers and people who lost in the primaries started to change policy and take leadership

“But you will be as bad as the left”

Sorry nigger we are well past the point of Sargonian anti woke classical liberalism it’s not 2014 and people are sick of Losing with le diginity.

This rot didn’t start with gamergate and SJWs. The democrats were fucked up and evil (as were the republicans) well before the purity spiral your talking about happened

Hell look at the community relations thing back into the 60s they were doing profoundly anti white evil shit.
 
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Shazam said:
Trump needs to install a live camera feed at the Portland Ice facility's front gate. Viewership would immediately dwarf Kimmel. Maybe call the show "He will deport us".
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I like "He Will Not Deport Us", or HWNDU for short. Random illegals have to wear IRL streamer gear 24/7 while internet autists and government agents track them based on the locations of the stars, background noises and the movement of shadows during the day.
 
Justsomecicada said:
No one argued this shit until newcomers and people who lost in the primaries started to change policy and take leadership

“But you will be as bad as the left”

Sorry nigger we are well past the point of Sargonian anti woke classical liberalism it’s not 2014 and people are sick of Losing with le diginity.

This rot didn’t start with gamergate and SJWs. The democrats were fucked up and evil (as were the republicans) well before the purity spiral your talking about happened
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0k got it. So what do you propose? If people do start to move over. Should people start going through their twitter history, and make sure they always had the right opinions?

Umm this is problematic. In 2020 you liked a "trans lives matter tweet".
 
prollyanotherlurker said:
Umm this is problematic. In 2020 you like a "trans lives matter tweet".
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That person shouldn’t be in leadership simple as, if you can’t realize why thats necessary to keep a party going your just beyond retarded.

No one is saying don’t let them over

It’s

Don’t let them over AND change shit and take leadership positions from reliable people without them actually putting time in.

If you don’t do this your party will just get co-opted
 
prollyanotherlurker said:
except the person in this thread that literally did.
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No that was me, and I was just saying I have no sympathy for them. Nor do I care to hear from them

A party has to be open or it can’t exist as a mass party but by the same token it cannot be so open the party is vulnerable to co-option and entryism. Which is already a huge threat with how our party systems work

Big tent maxing and pandering to racial, sexual, and religious interest groups is what gave the democrats power but it allowed a new left takeover in the grass roots

The 2024 convention was a disgrace and a hint of what the new comers want
 
raspberry mocha said:
I guess people in thread don't remember how Vance was anti-Trump when he was trying to hock his book back in 2016.
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They remember. You’ll find a ton of excuses for that in this thread. They just don’t care to think very deeply. Many on The Right are every bit as brainwashed as the left. If you go back and read any post that is mildly critical, for legitimate reasons, of Trump, Vance or any other person lining their pockets of the suffering of everyday Americans, you will find it neg-rated. Left or Right, we cannot questions our Masters.
 
Learn more about the CRS here, a in depth podcast with a bunch of sources. A very good primer.

The connections to Saul Alinsky's students and orgs is damning but not surprising, but the Matthew Shephard stuff that lead to Obama expanding the CRS's perview to include gender and sexuality is very important. The Rumor management arm 100% had a hand in all the internal supression of facts, turning a drug debt and possible former lover murder case into a hate crime and lead us to where we are now.
 
Nihil Jung said:
Learn more about the CRS here, a in depth podcast with a bunch of sources. A very good primer.

The connections to Saul Alinsky's students and orgs is damning but not surprising, but the Matthew Shephard stuff that lead to Obama expanding the CRS's perview to include gender and sexuality is very important. The Rumor management arm 100% had a hand in all the internal supression of facts, turning a drug debt and possible former lover murder case into a hate crime and lead us to where we are now.
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Holy fuck so the early people running were like SDS radicals and such? god knows what evil shit they have done. having it be run by normal libtards is bad enough but maoists……

Has dear feeder ever talked about CRS on MATI. Might make a good section
 
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