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Frank Rizzo said:
Glad to see LU is getting a Season 2.

In other, more bummed out news, it's looking like Sting suffered a bad injury at Night of Champions. In fact, it's so bad, doctors fear that he's pretty much done as a wrestler.
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I'm gonna need a wrestlemania season or so before I believe this isn't a work.
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Raw just had a montage that included JBL talking about WARRY ABOUT STANG'S WELL BEIN' MAGGLE or something in it.
I'm gonna need a doctor's note at this point.
 
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Nah, for you guys who didn't watch the Rollins/Sting match at Night of Champions, he was legitimately hurt. The match was going great (much better than I expected it to be), with Sting taking a sick, unprotected table bump where it looked like his head hit one of the monitors, and he did a top rope crossbody to the outside on Rollins. However, Rollins hit him with two Turnbuckle Powerbombs. First one Sting seemed fine, but once he got hit with the second one, he collapsed and Rollins tried to kick him and Sting no sold it, crumpling in a heap. Rollins then picked Sting up, and began to loudly call the next spot, telling him to do a clothesline. Sting didn't respond, and after a bit Rollins loudly told him to duck a clothesline. Well, Sting ducked it, only to fall over. The refs and ringside doctor checked on him for what seemed like several minutes, only for the match to continue and have a hasty roll up finish. Then, I saw a flash before the camera changed angles of a mass of people helping Sting walk to the back.

It sucked, because the match was going fantastically, and it might be the end of Sting's career, just right as he was proving he could still go in the ring. I thought it looked like a concussion, but Meltzer was saying it was some kind of neck injury. Shit's scary man.
 
Whatisgoingon said:
Nah, for you guys who didn't watch the Rollins/Sting match at Night of Champions, he was legitimately hurt. The match was going great (much better than I expected it to be), with Sting taking a sick, unprotected table bump where it looked like his head hit one of the monitors, and he did a top rope crossbody to the outside on Rollins. However, Rollins hit him with two Turnbuckle Powerbombs. First one Sting seemed fine, but once he got hit with the second one, he collapsed and Rollins tried to kick him and Sting no sold it, crumpling in a heap. Rollins then picked Sting up, and began to loudly call the next spot, telling him to do a clothesline. Sting didn't respond, and after a bit Rollins loudly told him to duck a clothesline. Well, Sting ducked it, only to fall over. The refs and ringside doctor checked on him for what seemed like several minutes, only for the match to continue and have a hasty roll up finish. Then, I saw a flash before the camera changed angles of a mass of people helping Sting walk to the back.

It sucked, because the match was going fantastically, and it might be the end of Sting's career, just right as he was proving he could still go in the ring. I thought it looked like a concussion, but Meltzer was saying it was some kind of neck injury. Shit's scary man.
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Neck injury has been refuted. Seems more like a spinal thing. But still sad.

And yeah, it was both the worst and best Sting match in a while. Best because it was the best, but worst because it might end his career.
 
I know I will get hate for this, but I never saw anything in Sting. Maybe it's because I was a Ric Flair guy growing up and when I first started watching Sting was getting into a feud with Flair and TNA is a joke, but the whole "Crow" bullshit was always lame to me. He didn't even do a thing for a year. They overplayed it, if anyone remembers back then. He was an upper mid-card guy as the surfer guy. Nothing really special. I would rate Luger's body of work as being more substantial than Sting's. Talking about him like him coming to do a few matches in WWE is some huge deal... I don't see it. I also don't see the big deal about him v. Taker. I would rather see a Jerry Lawler match when he was in his prime or even twilight than a Sting match.
 
yawning sneasel said:
I know I will get hate for this, but I never saw anything in Sting. Maybe it's because I was a Ric Flair guy growing up and when I first started watching Sting was getting into a feud with Flair and TNA is a joke, but the whole "Crow" bullshit was always lame to me. He didn't even do a thing for a year. They overplayed it, if anyone remembers back then. He was an upper mid-card guy as the surfer guy. Nothing really special. I would rate Luger's body of work as being more substantial than Sting's. Talking about him like him coming to do a few matches in WWE is some huge deal... I don't see it. I also don't see the big deal about him v. Taker. I would rather see a Jerry Lawler match when he was in his prime or even twilight than a Sting match.
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Mostly agreed. I'm happy watching a guy I like work with Sting, but Sting will never make me interested. The marvelous bullshit of the nWo did, but Sting just kinda stood there for a lot of of it.
 
yawning sneasel said:
I know I will get hate for this, but I never saw anything in Sting. Maybe it's because I was a Ric Flair guy growing up and when I first started watching Sting was getting into a feud with Flair and TNA is a joke, but the whole "Crow" bullshit was always lame to me. He didn't even do a thing for a year. They overplayed it, if anyone remembers back then. He was an upper mid-card guy as the surfer guy. Nothing really special. I would rate Luger's body of work as being more substantial than Sting's. Talking about him like him coming to do a few matches in WWE is some huge deal... I don't see it. I also don't see the big deal about him v. Taker. I would rather see a Jerry Lawler match when he was in his prime or even twilight than a Sting match.
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The whole big mystique about Sting, from one standpoint, was the fact that he was the *one* WCW/TNA guy who would *not* sign to WWE under any circumstances back when (and IIRC, he was offered several contracts by WWE throughout the years).

I kinda think the "Crow Sting" gimmick change made the NWO storyline more interesting. Up until that point, it was basically NWO steamrolling over everyone in WCW, with Lex Luger getting small victories here and there (EX: The cup of coffee he had with the World Title before he dropped it right back to Hogan). Sting was pretty much pegged as the "last hope" for WCW, and when he took a hike up to the rafters to just stay there, people, IMO anyway, actually got legit interested to see what the hell was gonna happen.

As for Taker Vs Sting. Yeah, I agree on that point, that ship sailed about....5-6 years ago. With Sting apparently not as injured as first thought post NOC, I have a suspicion he might take a non-wrestling role now in WWE and be a Brand Ambassador or a road agent. I kinda feel like his match with Rollins was his last.
 
Holy shit did the WWE fuck this up.

First off, I disagree that Sting was some "upper midcard surfer guy". While Flair became famous long before WCW was a thing, Sting is their only legitimate homegrown star outside of DDP and Booker T (who didn't become a main event performer until WCW's last year). The rest of WCW's talent was either pilfered from WWF (the entirety of the NWO), ECW (Raven, Malenko, Jericho, etc), or a hack like Goldberg (Austin lookalike who couldn't work a match if his life depended on it) or Buff Bagwell.

Sting wasn't the best in-ring worker, but he could pull off some sweet moves when he was younger and moved pretty well in the ring, especially compared to the majority of WCW's main event talent.

Here are the ways the WWE fucked up with Sting.

#1. Changing his entrance music.
#2. Changing his persona. They portray him as this "vigilante" who went up against HHH because he was cheating John Cena or something. He went up against Seth Rollins because he cheated to be the champion. Sting wasn't a "vigilante" in WCW, even though he seemed like one. He put on the makeup and went into the rafters because the NWO put some jobber in face paint and made him the "NWO Sting" and deeply embarrassed him. When Sting's buddy Lex Luger doubted him, he basically turned his back on WCW and became a "free agent". He didn't fight against the NWO because they were bad people, he fought against them because he was seeking #revengeance against Hulk Hogan for using an impersonator to make Sting's allies lose trust in him.

THEY SPENT A WHOLE FUCKING YEAR AND A HALF BUILDING THIS UP. We're lucky if we get three weeks to build up a main event match at a PPV these days.

Despite being great on the mic, they didn't have him speak once. Instead we get stuff like this:


What did the WWE do? Water him down as some old man Dudley Do Right who, 15 years after WCW's demise, decided to show up to the WWE because HHH is being a meanie. They changed him from "The Icon" to the "Vigilante" and fucked around with him.

#3. Jobbing him twice in a row. Ok, this is the one that pisses me off the most. He's had two matches in the WWE. The first, he jobbed to HHH like everyone has to do. It makes literally no sense to have him then job to Seth Rollins. It makes no sense and benefitted Rollins in no way. Instead of beating one of the biggest stars of the past 25 years, he beat some old guy who got beat by another old guy who wrestles only once or twice a year.

#4. Having him talk and explain himself.

Why not just something like this instead?

TL;DR - TNA did a better job with Sting than the WWE
 
Sounds like he has spinal stenosis, same injury that ended Edge's career.
 
Sting only ever moved numbers once, and it was when he didn't speak and didn't wrestle matches for a year. He's been a flop before that and after that.

What I'm saying is he was never good.
 
cat said:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=OiA65OUNpIM
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MOTY

CornetteFace said:
TNA did a better job with Sting?

Do you watch TNA? Sting was absolutely dreadful over there for a lot of the time.
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This is one of the main reasons I agree with Chuggernaut. The problem with Sting in general is that he "the best face we got" for Dubya-Cee-Dubya in the early 90s. When the nWo came in, they didn't know what to do with him, and ultimately the dithering they did was a benefit of sorts, however they had no plan for a long-term follow through. I respect the guy, he doesn't seem like a dick and seems to have done the best with what he was given, however relying on him to put asses in seats in 2015 is goofy. WWE got the best WCW had to offer at the time for the most part and even picked up some good gambles that didn't pay off. Sting's no dog, never was, but plenty of guys can sell the tickets he would in 2015 that are already there.
 
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Sorry guys, but it's time you knew the truth
"The WWE is full of trannies,meant to turn people gay."
 
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