"angry" gamers/critics

[Sanae Kochiya]

Why is he even still calling himself the Nostalgia Critic when he reviews movies that can't even be considered nostalgic. The Smurfs movie is barely 4 years old. And isnt' The Purge from 2013? He used to have a cut-off date but I guess he dropped that shit in exchange for easy views for reviewing something thats topical at the moment.

Brand recognition.

Lots of his fans know him for the Nostalgia Critic. Most of CA's traffic back when it was TGWTG came for the Nostalgia Critic. Killing off the Nostalgia Critic was a ballsy idea since it was literally what most of his rabid fans wanted.

He'll retire it when it starts adding nothing to his revenue and he is either too bored or too annoyed by the show to continue it further.

 

[RJ MacReady]

He'll retire it when it starts adding nothing to his revenue and he is either too bored or too annoyed by the show to continue it further.

I'd be interested to know what percentage of CA's overall revenue comes from NC videos. It must have been a good chunk if money issues forced Doug to revive the series.

I admit I don't understand how CA's finances work. My understanding is that anyone who had an agreement with the site split their ad revenue from YT and elsewhere with CA and in return the site granted them exposure and shots at contributing to bigger projects and crossovers.

 

[Tailypo]

And keep in mind that he'll outlast the Nostalgia Critic. He has the least to lose of any reviewer associated with CA, because he's not just a critic, he's one of the site's managers. His paycheque is assured as long as the producers dependent on him are still moneymakers, and he knew this when he cancelled NC. It only returned because Demo Reel's failure and eroding traffic forced his hand.

Doug will likely retire the NC in a few years to manage CA full-time, assured that he's an influential powerbroker with an impressive legacy. You know, just like Spielberg.

Oh, how he wishes he was Spielberg. As it was mentioned earlier, internet fame is not the same as real life fame. Spielberg made billions of dollars from his work, and I'm not sure how much money Doug actually makes, but I do know the number's not even remotely close.

How long will his "legacy" last? Not very long. Doug will eventually fade into obscurity.

 

[CWCissey]

I'd be interested to know what percentage of CA's overall revenue comes from NC videos. It must have been a good chunk if money issues forced Doug to revive the series.

I admit I don't understand how CA's finances work. My understanding is that anyone who had an agreement with the site split their ad revenue from YT and elsewhere with CA and in return the site granted them exposure and shots at contributing to bigger projects and crossovers.

It must be over half (I'm gonna put a guess on around 70-80%). I mean the reason why Doug is doing the new releases now was because apparently his Jurassic World one really brought the views in. (Probably because people heard it was terrible and morbid curiosity got the best of them)

Oh, how he wishes he was Spielberg. As it was mentioned earlier, internet fame is not the same as real life fame. Spielberg made billions of dollars from his work, and I'm not sure how much money Doug actually makes, but I do know the number's not even remotely close.

How long will his "legacy" last? Not very long. Doug will eventually fade into obscurity.

He'll just continue being 'That Guy who quit his job like a muppet' as he always appears on those 'Best ways to quit your job' lists.

 

[RJ MacReady]

Oh, how he wishes he was Spielberg. As it was mentioned earlier, internet fame is not the same as real life fame. Spielberg made billions of dollars from his work, and I'm not sure how much money Doug actually makes, but I do know the number's not even remotely close.

How long will his "legacy" last? Not very long. Doug will eventually fade into obscurity.

It'll be a long time before he has to face the music, but eventually CA reach the end of its rope (squeezed out by newer, more popular individuals/groups and insufficient interest in their stale material) and Doug, Rob and Mike will be as exploitative as they need to be to ensure their cheques are coming in and the lights are on.

This will be self-reinforcing. Services like Patreon provide a way out of dependence on CA, and the high-profile draws will go their own way when a better opportunity arises. And eventually there will be no more money in CA.

I only wonder what happens then. How will Doug Walker fare and what will he do when his e-fame and CA is no longer enough to support him? I doubt he'd have the modesty or skills to work under a superior in a relevant industry, since he's never had to be anything more than mediocre, which makes me suspect he'll end up as a shyster who scrapes by with money from failed creative ventures imitating CA or whatever's current.

It must be over half (I'm put a guess on around 70-80%). I mean the reason why Doug is doing the new releases now was because apparently his Jurassic World one really brought the views in. (Probably because people heard it was terrible and morbid curiosity got the best of them)

If your estimate turned out to be correct, and it seems bizarrely plausible, it questions CA's master strategy. In recent years, they've taken in so many new producers (most of whom I can't even name) covering so many different topics and fandoms you'd expect at least some self-sufficiency, but no. It's like they've just been throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks - accepting new producers at a glance and hoping one would blow up into a loyal unicorn.

Being as stale and conservative as they can with their big draws like NC, meanwhile, hedges their bets.

 

[CWCissey]

If your estimate turned out to be correct, and it seems bizarrely plausible, it questions CA's master strategy. In recent years, they've taken in so many new producers (most of whom I can't even name) covering so many different topics and fandoms you'd expect at least some self-sufficiency, but no. It's like they've just been throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks - accepting new producers at a glance and hoping one would blow up into a loyal unicorn.

Being as stale and conservative as they can with their big draws like NC, meanwhile, hedges their bets.

Well at one point, Doug was saying how he wants to turn Chicago into a 21st Century Hollywood, About how he wants Internet based entertainment being headquarted on his doorstep.

If that doesn't tell you that Doug knows nothing about the nature of the Internet, nothing will.

Also, I bet he'll go into Middle Management at WalMart or something. It may have been dumb little videos, but I imagine it'll still count as some form of semi-successful business.

Rob will probably d something similar (anyone know what he did before CA?) and Mike Michaud will continue to play Call Of Duty all day not even aware that the company he's supposed to be CEO of has imploded.

 

[Jewelsmakerguy]

Oh, how he wishes he was Spielberg. As it was mentioned earlier, internet fame is not the same as real life fame. Spielberg made billions of dollars from his work, and I'm not sure how much money Doug actually makes, but I do know the number's not even remotely close.

How long will his "legacy" last? Not very long. Doug will eventually fade into obscurity.

You never know with the internet. Some things will outlast their expiration date. Even if no one wants it. And trust me, CA has already past that point of no return, and will continue to do it long after it shuts down thanks to the rabid fantards that still lurk around the internet.

As for the people themselves, I think most of them would be either unaware that it happened, or don't care. Doug himself may end up trying a new venture or some shit. But at this point, I've stopped caring for the guy.

 

[RJ MacReady]

Well at one point, Doug was saying how he wants to turn Chicago into a 21st Century Hollywood, About how he wants Internet based entertainment being headquarted on his doorstep.

I forgot about this. If you had to pick one thing to summarise Doug Walker to a stranger, this would be one of my first candidates.

If that doesn't tell you that Doug knows nothing about the nature of the Internet, nothing will.

Also, I bet he'll go into Middle Management at WalMart or something. It may have been dumb little videos, but I imagine it'll still count as some form of semi-successful business.

Rob will probably d something similar (anyone know what he did before CA?) and Mike Michaud will continue to play Call Of Duty all day not even aware that the company he's supposed to be CEO of has imploded.

I really doubt Doug will work outside of his preferred industries unless he absolutely has to. He considers it his destiny to work in "internet entertainment" and he likes having control and authority. Sticking to familiar territory is a way to fulfil both of these desires. But it's also unlikely that he'll end up with the job he hoped for, and I think that will accelerate his resentment and make him more opportunistic. Thus my theory that he'd end up as close to a con artist as you could get.

As for Rob, I have no idea. He's the "Creative Content Officer", which sounds made-up but if I had to guess it means he has a veto on company-wide projects like the anniversary films and Pop Quiz Hotshot as well as the process of selecting new producers.

Mike seems like he'd be the one to touch off any legal fight that could overshadow CA's final days. He seems vindictive enough to take what he can get by legal force if it means he can keep pretending he's a big shot, but also too timid to compete for what's left of the site's assets unless the authority of the law is at his back.

 

[CWCissey]

I really doubt Doug will work outside of his preferred industries unless he absolutely has to.

And I think he'll have to. Unless that kids show one of his friends created takes off (which I highly doubt, seeing as I haven't heard from it since the first episode)

 

[darkhorse816]

Rob will probably d something similar (anyone know what he did before CA?)

I heard Rob is a physical therapist, with a license and everything. So at least he has a job outside of Santa Christ.

 

[RJ MacReady]

And I think he'll have to. Unless that kids show one of his friends created takes off (which I highly doubt, seeing as I haven't heard from it since the first episode)

I'm barely up to date on CA's affiliates as it is, so I never heard about this. Any more info?

Nonetheless, even that seems optimistic. Television is one of the first fields I can think of Doug fleeing to. He's also the kind of person I can imagine submitting material to SNL and the like and then getting angsty when it gets binned without a thought.

 

[CWCissey]

I heard Rob is a physical therapist, with a license and everything. So at least he has a job outside of Santa Christ.

That's actually a really respectable job. Though why does he act like such a passive aggressive arse? Surely working with those who have lost the use of their limbs and getting them to work again would be really humbling?

I'm barely up to date on CA's affiliates as it is, so I never heard about this. Any more info?

Nonetheless, even that seems optimistic. Television is one of the first fields I can think of Doug fleeing to. He's also the kind of person I can imagine submitting material to SNL and the like and then getting angsty when it gets binned without a thought.

It was called Captain Draw or something like that, and it was on Public Access TV, Doug played the main character's neighbour, who was basically the only sane man in a world filled with doodles and cartoons and shit.

EDIT: Found it.

 

[Adamska]

That's actually a really respectable job. Though why does he act like such a passive aggressive arse? Surely working with those who have lost the use of their limbs and getting them to work again would be really humbling?

You'd be shocked at how incompetent people can be in their jobs they were trained for. Powering up to fight Vegeta here, but I've personally seen aides literally just sit there texting on their phone and ignoring their patient completely for the allotted hours.

 

[RJ MacReady]

You'd be shocked at how incompetent people can be in their jobs they were trained for. Powering up to fight Vegeta here, but I've personally seen aides literally just sit there texting on their phone and ignoring their patient completely for the allotted hours.

The odd part is that there's probably good money in that job, too. I can't think of any other reason why Rob would have abandoned that career except under pressure from Doug. His manipulative tendencies aren't exactly a secret.

 

[CWCissey]

The odd part is that there's probably good money in that job, too. I can't think of any other reason why Rob would have abandoned that career except under pressure from Doug. His manipulative tendencies aren't exactly a secret.

I don't know, I see the three Stooges as a kind of spectrum. Doug's very passive, Rob's passive aggressive and Mike Michaud is aggressive aggressive. Did Rob seriously give up on his career, or was he maybe fired? That's if he actually left at all, his Santa Christ act could be a hobby for all I know, and if so, fair play to him for that.

 

[Adamska]

I don't know, I see the three Stooges as a kind of spectrum. Doug's very passive, Rob's passive aggressive and Mike Michaud is aggressive aggressive. Did Rob seriously give up on his career, or was he maybe fired? That's if he actually left at all, his Santa Christ act could be a hobby for all I know, and if so, fair play to him for that.

He could've been fired, I know that seeing aides that have his kind of "fuck you I'm better than you" attitude is rarer nowadays due to the health care facilities putting the squeeze on hours and on reports for instance, at least in my state. It'd explain why he gives a shit at least about Doug not collapsing financially at the very least, since if he's the bread winner, then he will give a lot of a shit about the money flow.

 

[RJ MacReady]

I don't know, I see the three Stooges as a kind of spectrum. Doug's very passive, Rob's passive aggressive and Mike Michaud is aggressive aggressive. Did Rob seriously give up on his career, or was he maybe fired? That's if he actually left at all, his Santa Christ act could be a hobby for all I know, and if so, fair play to him for that.

Fair point. Rob doesn't seem to have much passion for acting or filmmaking, though. He apparently does have a persona/nickname, "The Other Guy" but that persona is almost entirely that he's a nobody who does very little on screen. And if you've seen his cameos, he's as stiff as concrete. His role is almost entirely administrative, to be fair.

It's why I get the impression that he's more of a back room guy that Doug shanghais to serve on the front lines of CA in the same way that he heavily relies on the black guy and the generic white girl to support his skits and reviews.

A firing would also explain a lot. He'd be registered in Illinois, right? It's optimistic, but is there any way of digging up that kind of info?

 

[CWCissey]

Fair point. Rob doesn't seem to have much passion for acting or filmmaking, though. He apparently does have a persona/nickname, "The Other Guy" but that persona is almost entirely that he's a nobody who does very little on screen. And if you've seen his cameos, he's as stiff as concrete. His role is almost entirely administrative, to be fair.

It's why I get the impression that he's more of a back room guy that Doug shanghais to serve on the front lines of CA in the same way that he heavily relies on the black guy and the generic white girl to support his skits and reviews.

A firing would also explain a lot. He'd be registered in Illinois, right? It's optimistic, but is there any way of digging up that kind of info?

Which is why I'm leaning more towards hobby.

I'm not sure how it works in America, but I don't think there's a publicly available database of medical workers.

 

[RJ MacReady]

Which is why I'm leaning more towards hobby.

I'm not sure how it works in America, but I don't think there's a publicly available database of medical workers.

I'm not American, so I wouldn't know either. But I was of the opinion that public registration of some kind usually followed board certification for most medical professions in most nations.

 

[CWCissey]

I'm not American, so I wouldn't know either. But I was of the opinion that public registration of some kind usually followed board certification for most medical professions in most nations.

Well just a quick spot of Google Fu has this Robert Walker in Gurnee, Il

http://www.healthgrades.com/provider/robert-walker-zbs8f

It suggests that he still works as a Physical Therapist, but I don't know how reliable the site is though.