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TALLAHASSEE — Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has been untouchable for the past year as he commanded the Republican culture wars to become heir apparent to Donald Trump. The latest coronavirus surge is starting to change that.

Covid infection rates continue to climb as the state faces shortages of health care staff, morgue space and even oxygen for patients. About 16,000 people are hospitalized. Child infection rates have shot up. School districts — even in Republican strongholds — have rebelled against DeSantis’ anti-mask mandates. And cruise lines are resisting DeSantis’ vaccine passport ban. Even his recent poll numbers are slipping.


It’s new terrain for a Republican governor who defied dire expectation during the first wave of Covid-19 but has continued his hands-off approach as the more contagious Delta variant infects large swaths of Florida’s unvaccinated population.

The most recent defeat came Friday when Leon County Circuit Court Judge John Cooper ruled DeSantis can’t punish school districts for passing mask mandates, as his administration had threatened after instituting emergency rules aimed at banning mask mandates in schools. The DeSantis administration has said those districts are breaking the law, an assertion directly refuted in a blistering ruling from Cooper read from the bench during a nearly two hour hearing.

The multi-front Covid-19 battle is becoming inextricably linked to DeSantis’ 2022 re-election bid, and more broadly his future White House aspirations. The governor remains popular with conservatives across the country and in Florida, but his steadfast refusal to implement Covid-related restrictions amid hundreds of virus-related deaths in the state and rising infection numbers has the potential to threaten his electability.

“There’s no question it’s impacting him politically,” said a Republican consultant who has previously worked with DeSantis and requested anonymity to speak freely. “You can tout all the freedom and anti-lockdown that you want. There’s no political strategy for sick kids and tired parents.”

A Quinnipiac University poll released this month had DeSantis’ approval rating dipping below 50 percent, with 47 percent approving of his job performance, and 45 percent disapproving. Those numbers dropped to 44-51 when asked about his handling of public schools. The Quinnipiac poll follows other public polling that shows a similar erosion to DeSantis’ approval rating. A St. Pete Polls survey earlier this month showed 43 percent approved of the job he was doing while 48 percent did not.

The poll also brought bad news for President Joe Biden, who is the frequent target of criticism from DeSantis. Biden’s approval rating sits at 40 percent in Florida, while 53 percent disapprove of his job performance. The poll was conducted between Aug. 17 and 21, a time when Biden was facing heavy criticism over his withdrawal from Afghanistan, an issue that has kept the national news cycle from focusing on DeSantis and Florida’s Covid-19 situation.




Yet DeSantis has focused in recent weeks on traversing the state to tout new sites that deliver the monoclonal antibody treatment. The treatment can reduce the likelihood that a Covid-19 patient lands in the hospital if it is given shortly after infection. But it is far less effective than vaccines at preventing severe illness and death. The state has so far opened up 21 of the sites and the conservative media outlet One America News Network will air a 2-day series on the treatments with the title “America's Governor & Florida's Grit: How Antibody Therapy Combats COVID-19.”

“We think the thing that has the most impact to keep people out of the hospital and save lives is to really make sure this early treatment is something people have access to,” DeSantis told reporters Thursday. “Even with a massive number of people vaccinated, you still have prevalence.”

“It’s going to be part of life,” DeSantis added.

His fight with schools over masking children, however has also escalated. Already, 10 school districts have bucked the governor over his order banning schools from implementing mask mandates, including Sarasota County and Indian River County school districts, which are in conservative-leaning regions of the state.

But Cooper, the judge who ruled against DeSantis Friday, opened the door for more local defiance. Cooper not only ruled against the administration, but said that previous legislation DeSantis-championed known as the “Parents Bill of Rights” actually allows districts to craft their own mask policies.

“A school district, adopting a policy, such as a mask mandate, is acting within its discretion it has been given by the Florida Legislature in the Parents Bill of Rights,” Cooper said. “"The doctrine of separation of powers requires that the discretionary power exercised by the school board, cannot be interfered by the judiciary, or by the executive branch of government.”



DeSantis insists Florida will have a 'normal school year', despite Covid surge



DeSantis communications director Taryn Fenske said they would appeal.

“It’s not surprising that Judge Cooper would rule against parent’s rights and their ability to make the best educational and medical decisions for their family, but instead rule in favor of elected politicians,” she said. “This ruling was made with incoherent justifications, not based on science and facts.”

Infection rates for kids under 12, who are not yet eligible for the vaccine, last week increased to 23 percent, up from an average of 15 percent since March 1. Nearly 17,000 Covid-19 patients are in hospitals, far above the 2020 peak. And Florida’s nearly 1,500 deaths reported last week was by far the biggest single seven-day increase since the state started reporting Covid-19 data.

DeSantis' losses over Covid-19 policy have not been confined to land.

Disney, one of Florida’s largest Republican donors, this week joined Carnival, Norwegian and Royal Caribbean in requiring vaccines for passengers older than 12. The wave of cruise operators requiring vaccines was, in part, prompted by vaccination requirements for cruise passengers put in place by the government of the Bahamas, which is the first stop for most major cruise ships. It’s a direct violation of DeSantis-pressed legislation that bars vaccine passports as well as guidance from the federal government over cruise ship safety.

Earlier this month, a federal judge in Miami blocked Florida from enforcing the law against Norwegian Cruise Line Holdings, a ruling that gave cover for other industry operators — like Disney — to go against DeSantis’ wishes on vaccine passports. Attorneys for DeSantis plan to appeal the decision.

DeSantis has continued to use the pandemic to help what has been a well-oiled political fundraising machine. Most recently, the governor’s political committee sent a fundraising email based on a feud he had with the Associated Press, which published a story implying DeSantis was boosting monoclonal antibody treatments to help a political donor.

That story was met with a blistering response from DeSantis press secretary Christina Pushaw, whose attack on the reporter who wrote the story landed her a 12 hour Twitter suspension and prompted the wire service to send a letter to DeSantis asking his office to stop “bullying” reporters.
The governor’s political rivals are also keying in on the pandemic, with Rep. Charlie Crist and Agriculture Commissioner Nikki Fried, DeSantis’ top 2022 Democratic rivals, turning their focus to the administration’s response.

“Governor DeSantis has made it clear that he wants to put politics over keeping schools open and keeping our economy strong,” Crist’s campaign said in an email. “But today’s ruling makes clear that he’s overstepped his authority.”

 
Florida isn't turning on DeSantis at all. They're just getting the reverse "California Treatment" from the media.

Where they'll cover up all of Cali's dirty laundry and try to paint it as a utopia because it's a leftie stronghold, Florida gets shit on constantly.

All because it has the audacity to be a Republican-run state that's doing well after telling the feds to fuck off because they were done with lockdowns and masks.
 
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Honestly judges are all faggot mini kings who make shit up all the time. A conservative with some balls should just start ignoring what they say. The Dems already do it all the time.
 
Florida isn't turning on DeSantis at all. They're just getting the reverse "California Treatment" from the media.

Where they'll cover up all of Cali's dirty laundry and try to paint it as a utopia because it's a leftie stronghold, Florida gets shit on constantly.

All because it has the audacity to be a Republican-run state that's doing well after telling the feds to fuck off because they were done with lockdowns and masks.
"Infection rates for kids under 12, who are not yet eligible for the vaccine, last week increased to 23 percent, up from an average of 15 percent since March 1. Nearly 17,000 Covid-19 patients are in hospitals, far above the 2020 peak. And Florida’s nearly 1,500 deaths reported last week was by far the biggest single seven-day increase since the state started reporting Covid-19 data."

doing well, yeah sure
 
Article says Florida, but the article can only point to activist judges being against the state protecting the people from corporate tyranny

Also interesting how judges have nothing to say when the state demands mask and vaccine mandates, but the state actually does something to protect freedom of movement and they get furious. Got to hang the judges as well apparently
 
Covid infection rates continue to climb as the state faces shortages of health care staff
That's because they keep firing staff that won't get vaccinated.
The treatment can reduce the likelihood that a Covid-19 patient lands in the hospital if it is given shortly after infection. But it is far less effective than vaccines at preventing severe illness and death.
From what I understand is that the antibody in question came from an OG from the original SARS outbreak. It really opened up how to target Covid in treatment. This antibody is much more aggressive than Covid's own antibodies in attacking the Delta variant, it's effective enough that they think they can make it a prophylactic. It's also supposed to be the first stage in treatment as they're already preparing for other waves and improving on the treatment itself.

Which I hope is true, because if you can't get the vaccine for whatever health reason it seems like you can take this.
Politico is no longer relevant.
Shame, I hate when this happens to news.
"Infection rates for kids under 12, who are not yet eligible for the vaccine, last week increased to 23 percent, up from an average of 15 percent since March 1. Nearly 17,000 Covid-19 patients are in hospitals, far above the 2020 peak. And Florida’s nearly 1,500 deaths reported last week was by far the biggest single seven-day increase since the state started reporting Covid-19 data."

doing well, yeah sure
How many kids are infected, though? That's only percentage increases, for all I know it could be 45 kids.
 
That's because they keep firing staff that won't get vaccinated.

From what I understand is that the antibody in question came from an OG from the original SARS outbreak. It really opened up how to target Covid in treatment. This antibody is much more aggressive than Covid's own antibodies in attacking the Delta variant, it's effective enough that they think they can make it a prophylactic. It's also supposed to be the first stage in treatment as they're already preparing for other waves and improving on the treatment itself.

Which I hope is true, because if you can't get the vaccine for whatever health reason it seems like you can take this.
Shame, I hate when this happens to news.
How many kids are infected, though? That's only percentage increases, for all I know it could be 45 kids.
found date from last month
The Florida Department of Health reported 10,785 new COVID-19 infections among children under 12 between July 23 and 29. That’s an average of 1,540 new cases per day.
 
The horror is how you pulled out 99.99920848271864% from your ass.

Whatever your option on mask mandates and lockdowns are, it's clear from the number, Desantis fucked up.
Florida isn't even among the top 15 worst states. Also cases does not equal deaths.

Coumo fucked up, and he got praised by Fauci and the media for it.
 
The horror is how you pulled out 99.99920848271864% from your ass.

Whatever your option on mask mandates and lockdowns are, it's clear from the number, Desantis fucked up.
Ohh noOoOO the actual number is actually 99.9211887% you sure showed him.
Coumo fucked up, and he got praised by Fauci and the media for it.
That is until he got stabbed in the back and is considered evil and terrible for political intrigue reasons. This whole thing is fake and gay.
 
The horror is how you pulled out 99.99920848271864% from your ass.

Whatever your option on mask mandates and lockdowns are, it's clear from the number, Desantis fucked up.
Copy/paste from a calculator using the quick facts US census page for Florida and simple division. Search engines are powerful tools.

DeSantis fucked up? At this point I can’t tell who’s more retarded: Corona-Stans or Dems.
 
Copy/paste from a calculator using the quick facts US census page for Florida and simple division. Search engines are powerful tools.

DeSantis fucked up? At this point I can’t tell who’s more retarded: Corona-Stans or Dems.
Well, you are a corona-stan, so going to say you are the more retarded one.

17,000 is just the number in hospital, you tard, you said deal fine at home with it but you know that bullshit, long term effects are well know. Your calculation really is something you pulled out of your ass.

I don't get why corona-stans, enjoy downplaying deaths like edgelords.
 
"Infection rates for kids under 12, who are not yet eligible for the vaccine, last week increased to 23 percent, up from an average of 15 percent since March 1. Nearly 17,000 Covid-19 patients are in hospitals, far above the 2020 peak. And Florida’s nearly 1,500 deaths reported last week was by far the biggest single seven-day increase since the state started reporting Covid-19 data."

doing well, yeah sure
OMG A VIRUS REEEEE
Let's not talk about how children that age can't get the vaccine for some weird reason, only adults and pregnant women.
 
"State Turns on DeSantis" says media.

Meanwhile their own flagship Blue State Governors have resigned or been recalled.
 
DeSantis fucked up? At this point I can’t tell who’s more retarded: Corona-Stans or Dems.
Aren't they the same thing?
"State Turns on DeSantis" says media.

Meanwhile their own flagship Blue State Governors have resigned or been recalled.
The media really thinks they can decree something and make it true.
 
found date from last month
The Florida Department of Health reported 10,785 new COVID-19 infections among children under 12 between July 23 and 29. That’s an average of 1,540 new cases per day.
As morbid as it sounds those kids will have a better immunity at least, the odds are in their favor to survive. Plus they should be getting plenty of Vitamin D if they're free to walk around which should increase their odds. Unless Florida turned into Oregon when I wasn't looking.

However, I agree it's not a good look from a Devil's Advocate viewpoint. Personally I'd prefer a natural immunity since that apparently can last several years, but I hate chicken pox parties and find them irresponsible since even chickenpox can turn fatal. So no covid parties.

I disagree with locking down the state, though, the Delta variant is the weakest strain despite its contagious nature and this would be the best one to get herd immunity with from people who don't want the shot.
 
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