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I just wanna take a moment to appreciate how retarded his narrative about his hype new hats is and how he got them. Apparently after his failed marathon a fan contacted him behind da scenes to help him out... how did he do it? Did he send what was missing from the mortgage fundraising scam's goal? No, he sent him a fucking Amazon gift card. Seriously, what? Imagine if you walked around your town or city or future ground zero of a nuclear bomb explosion and you happen upon a bum. The bum pleads with you, he tells you he is hungry and will accept any food you can give him and it's his lucky day! You are willing to help. So, rather than buying the bum some food or giving him some cash or giving him some food that you have with you, you go to the local bookstore, buy one of their gift cards and then give the bum the book store gift card. That's how fucking retarded this supposed situation is.

Same with the Xbox SeX scam. He couldn't just go with the simple lie and say that a fan donated it behind da scenes and leave it at that. No, he had to preface it with some autistic as fuck story about elephants and peanuts and then make up some wild narrative about how the generous fan had that Xbox SeX unopened for 8 months because he bought it and a new gaymer PC at the same time and then realized that there's no exclusives on the SeX. Somehow he didn't think of returning the Xbox, or selling it, or giving it to Phil right away, no, for some reason we are to believe that he left his Xbox SeX unopened for 8 months and only thought about giving it to Phil after Phil got hyped about the Gamepass during E3 or whatever and then waited after a begathon to send him the Xbox.

@Pargon has said this before, Phil is the one man refutation of the Malcom Gladwell rule that if you do something for 10k hours you master it. Phil has been lying on camera as naturally as he breathed for more than 10 years and he somehow has not mastered the most basic rule of lying which is to keep your lies SIMPLE and your narratives CONSISTENT.
Also coincidently these people always want to remain anonymous and not receive credit for their gifts. We're supposed to believe these people sending phil expensive gifts don't even want some recognition from his little chat of retards for their contributions. Its always just Phil's word that someone else is buying this stuff, because luckily they all want to remain anonymous.
 
Meh, if you look at the Halloween stream, they were actually being incredibly nice to her. At first. Barely a shoutout to “Jim from the gym” (lol!)

However, everyone wanted some interaction and Khat playing. Instead they got Phil being Phil and Khat sitting there looking like a bored zombie.

It was only after a few hours of that, and after they noticed that Khat was sitting staring at the comments, that things got a little more rowdy.
You mean to say people actually want their entertainers to be entertaining and not sit there like they just got finished shooting black tar heroin? Whaaaaaaaatttt say it isn’t so

Kat doesn’t seem to be the sharpest knife in the drawer so I’m not sure if she developed her own unrealistic expectations about how she’d be received or if Phil helped. Probably a combination of the two. Given her flat affect when she streamed herself though I’d say she definitely had a hand in it. But if you introduce a new personality to your cast, so to speak, and that person acts like a fucking coma patient people are going to make their own fun in the absence of what they expect you to provide. It’s the same thing here; when cows get boring the autists get restless and someone tries to tip one, or starts a slapfight, or dreams up a wild speculation to generate discussion, or whatever. If you’re expecting your brain to be engaged and then it isn’t you’re going to get bored and then do something to alleviate it. Of course she got made fun of.

Maybe I’m sounding like I’m saying bitch deserved it, and I don’t think that. I haven’t seen enough of their relationship to convince me that Kat actually is a bad person and that’s a separate conversation anyway. But the internet is the internet; everyone flings shit. Whether you’re wearing a tie or a trucker hat when you’re doing it makes no difference, and Phil’s chat is more poo-covered than most. Deserved it? No. Ought to have expected and prepared for it? Very much yes.

Anyway. All this to say that Kat probably has a very reasonable expectation that she’ll get more of the same if she makes another appearance, if for no other reason than there are going to be even more people chomping at the bit to troll her and Phil by proxy, so it wouldn’t take a genius to just decide the better option is to stay out of it. And even if she’s no longer cooking and cleaning for him, and even if Phil is not gay and in desperate need of a beard (lol), Phil needs her. He needs the legitimacy he imagines being in a relationship gives him because without one he doesn’t have a family and he’s one step closer to the people who support him, whom he despises. I don’t think he can make her do a damn thing, and if it comes down to “honey, you need to go on the schtreem or I—we won’t get the munny” then I think she’ll leave him. And she should, because that’s manipulation and that’s fucked up. No one should want to be with someone who would treat them like that.

He usually sets up a "Behinds Da Scenes" tip with some whale, in an off day email. Eventually he'll put a new hat on I would just like to see him get salty as hell when it isn't hit. I wonder if he got a Pilot's hat for tonight's Flight Sim stream?
Whatever the case I anticipate the next step in Phil’s slow metamorphosis into every member of the Village People.
 
You mean to say people actually want their entertainers to be entertaining and not sit there like they just got finished shooting black tar heroin? Whaaaaaaaatttt say it isn’t so

Kat doesn’t seem to be the sharpest knife in the drawer so I’m not sure if she developed her own unrealistic expectations about how she’d be received or if Phil helped. Probably a combination of the two. Given her flat affect when she streamed herself though I’d say she definitely had a hand in it. But if you introduce a new personality to your cast, so to speak, and that person acts like a fucking coma patient people are going to make their own fun in the absence of what they expect you to provide. It’s the same thing here; when cows get boring the autists get restless and someone tries to tip one, or starts a slapfight, or dreams up a wild speculation to generate discussion, or whatever. If you’re expecting your brain to be engaged and then it isn’t you’re going to get bored and then do something to alleviate it. Of course she got made fun of.

Maybe I’m sounding like I’m saying bitch deserved it, and I don’t think that. I haven’t seen enough of their relationship to convince me that Kat actually is a bad person and that’s a separate conversation anyway. But the internet is the internet; everyone flings shit. Whether you’re wearing a tie or a trucker hat when you’re doing it makes no difference, and Phil’s chat is more poo-covered than most. Deserved it? No. Ought to have expected and prepared for it? Very much yes.

Anyway. All this to say that Kat probably has a very reasonable expectation that she’ll get more of the same if she makes another appearance, if for no other reason than there are going to be even more people chomping at the bit to troll her and Phil by proxy, so it wouldn’t take a genius to just decide the better option is to stay out of it. And even if she’s no longer cooking and cleaning for him, and even if Phil is not gay and in desperate need of a beard (lol), Phil needs her. He needs the legitimacy he imagines being in a relationship gives him because without one he doesn’t have a family and he’s one step closer to the people who support him, whom he despises. I don’t think he can make her do a damn thing, and if it comes down to “honey, you need to go on the schtreem or I—we won’t get the munny” then I think she’ll leave him. And she should, because that’s manipulation and that’s fucked up. No one should want to be with someone who would treat them like that.

Well, I’ll say it then: Bitch deserved it.

She had done streams before. (More entertaining than most of Phil’s!)

And she sits comatose, staring at the chat, not responding when everyone is going “Let’s see Kat play!” Or asking her questions? Fuck, no wonder people got bored and started to shit the chat up a bit.


As for Phil making her join, we don’t know their exact financial arrangements, but assuming that Phil pays for everything, and whatever Khat makes is spending money for her or goes into the “get the fuck out of goutsville account” at the bank, it’s hardly manipulation to say: “Yo Kat! Honey! Contributions have been down. If you don’t go on the stream with me to make them go back up, you need to contribute some of your paycheck to da bills next month!”


As for Khat in general, holy shit she has just deteriorated judging by that stream.

Compare her old streams if you can still find them with the bored, dead eyes zombie sitting next to her soulmate. Shit is sad to look at, you can’t help but wonder if Phil somehow ruins people just by proximity.
 
you can’t help but wonder if Phil somehow ruins people just by proximity.
Phil had one good friend whom he essentially drove away to the point that said friend decided that if any reconciliation was possible Phil would have to make the first step, and a girlfriend who needed to pressure him for an extended period of time to commit to marrying her and then shortly after he did so dumped his ass anyway.

I think we can stamp that one “Confirmed”, hoss.
 
He usually sets up a "Behinds Da Scenes" tip with some whale, in an off day email. Eventually he'll put a new hat on I would just like to see him get salty as hell when it isn't hit. I wonder if he got a Pilot's hat for tonight's Flight Sim stream?
I can't wait to watch phil unwittingly re-enact 9/11.
 
Also coincidently these people always want to remain anonymous and not receive credit for their gifts. We're supposed to believe these people sending phil expensive gifts don't even want some recognition from his little chat of retards for their contributions. Its always just Phil's word that someone else is buying this stuff, because luckily they all want to remain anonymous.

What exactly is the goutbrained logic in pretending that shit he buys is all
“Anonymous” gifts and presents though?

Maybe it’s because I’m not an e-hermit, that I don’t get the logic, but is Phil pretending to be living paycheck to paycheck or something?

His regulars watch him pull in thousands a week/month. He’s a streamer. Wouldn’t they EXPECT Phil to buy an XBox or whatever and invest in the stream?
 
What exactly is the goutbrained logic in pretending that shit he buys is all
“Anonymous” gifts and presents though?

Maybe it’s because I’m not an e-hermit, that I don’t get the logic, but is Phil pretending to be living paycheck to paycheck or something?

His regulars watch him pull in thousands a week/month. He’s a streamer. Wouldn’t they EXPECT Phil to buy an XBox or whatever and invest in the stream?
A large contingent of Phil’s audience are disabled, mentally or otherwise, or suffering from arrested development just like he is and have no idea how much things cost and no impetus to try and find out for themselves. All they have to go on is Phil’s word and even if they don’t completely believe him it’s not as though calling him out would result in anything other than eating a ban.

They refuse to recognize the power they have over him. If they collaborated in the background they could have him showing each and every one of his bills on stream tomorrow trying to convince them to give him money, but they won’t do that because they hate fun.
 
What exactly is the goutbrained logic in pretending that shit he buys is all
“Anonymous” gifts and presents though?

Maybe it’s because I’m not an e-hermit, that I don’t get the logic, but is Phil pretending to be living paycheck to paycheck or something?

His regulars watch him pull in thousands a week/month. He’s a streamer. Wouldn’t they EXPECT Phil to buy an XBox or whatever and invest in the stream?
All of his true and honest fans are ♿. And most of them still live with mommy and daddy, and don't work. They don't understand money.
 
Let us not forget the eggsbox 'donation' came after yet another failed begathon.
What really gives him away, even more than that, is that somehow all of these fans think exactly the way he does. They keep giving him shit that only DSP would try to save his stream with. Notice how he's never surprised or insulted by WHAT the gift was? Compare that to when somebody sent him the platinum vest. He wasn't blatant about it at first, but he obviously hates it, and knows that the person was trolling him.

I do not believe for one second that any retard who donates shit to Phil is going to hit the mark 100% of the time. Especially if the platinum vest actually wasn't trolling.
They refuse to recognize the power they have over him. If they collaborated in the background they could have him showing each and every one of his bills on stream tomorrow trying to convince them to give him money, but they won’t do that because they hate fun.
They could have fun fucking with Phil, but I'm not convinced that he would break against their efforts so easily. Especially after so many years of walking all over them, and his anger towards them today. He's sweating things, for sure, but look at what he's doing about them. Nothing that would actually help, just the same attempts to face-tank his way through this low point until the world gives him what he wants. Part of that is definitely out of spite, and would only get worse if the paypigs took things up a notch from the current declining tips.

I don't feel it can be over-stated that the retards are already asserting themselves beyond what I would've expected a year ago, because as far back as January, Phil was show signs of wanting another vest streak, and here we are in August, with a short-lived one well behind us, and no sign of a triumphant return. He's still making money, thanks to superchats, but notice how it isn't making him HAPPY? At all? That does not appear to be moving the retards. Cuck is the only reason he gets anywhere near the tips goal, and his gay-oping isn't enough. He can only top the tank off, but everyone else is telling him to fill it himself from now on.

I don't see any reason to expect this to change, at least not in a way that Phil will like.
 
What exactly is the goutbrained logic in pretending that shit he buys is all
“Anonymous” gifts and presents though?

Maybe it’s because I’m not an e-hermit, that I don’t get the logic, but is Phil pretending to be living paycheck to paycheck or something?

His regulars watch him pull in thousands a week/month. He’s a streamer. Wouldn’t they EXPECT Phil to buy an XBox or whatever and invest in the stream?
His grift is that he's on the verge of being completly destitute so absolutely anything he spends money on that isn't food/water/shelter related will be questioned. (of course with him food includes expensive restaurant meals while being broke but I guess he feels that since food is needed, as long as its a "necessity" he can spend money on it).

There was a tweet a few weeks ago where he implied he spent all of his money on breakfast and was waiting for his youtube check to come through before he could eat again so not only is he living paycheck to paycheck, he is struggling to get to his next meal.

Really though his narratives just show how well off he is since he doesn't even know how to pretend to be poor without looking like an idiot. Houses don't get repossessed for making one late payment and utilities don't get immediately shut off for missing 1 payment on time. He doesn't even grasp the idea that someone who was really having financial issues wouldn't be talking about eating out all the time.
 
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There was a tweet a few weeks ago where he implied he spent all of his money on breakfast and was waiting for his youtube check to come through before he could eat again so not only is he living paycheck to paycheck, he is struggling to get to his next meal.
Did he also not fuck up royal and state before that tweet that he had something like only $100 to his name? And that these two statements together meant that he spent three fucking figures on one meal for two people?
 
His grift is that he's on the verge of being completly destitute so absolutely anything he spends money on that isn't food/water/shelter related will be questioned. (of course with him food includes expensive restaurant meals while being broke but I guess he feels that since food is needed, as long as its a "necessity" he can spend money on it).

There was a tweet a few weeks ago where he implied he spent all of his money on breakfast and was waiting for his youtube check to come through before he could eat again so not only is he living paycheck to paycheck, he is struggling to get to his next meal.

Really though his narratives just show how well off he is since he doesn't even know how to pretend to be poor without looking like an idiot. Houses don't get repossessed for making one late payment and utilities don't get immediately shut off for missing 1 payment on time. He doesn't even grasp the idea that someone who was really having financial issues wouldn't be talking about eating out all the time.
He didn't really imply that he was going to go hungry it's the subconscious flexing about blowing money over and over again hours before and after crying poverty begging cripples for their disability checks.
 
Phil's real issue with the "I'm broke" narrative is that he doesn't see what he looks like from the outside, both from his low IQ and from being a hermit who had trouble passing for human even a decade ago. He also doesn't carefully plan things out, as evidenced from his recent save the condo begathon. That was to get money for some clown shit for the stream, we know that now, money he didn't already have, or just didn't want to spend on that, because it was easy enough to squeeze it out of the paypigs. He just had to think of something quick that would sufficiently guilt-trip them. Had no concerns about how it looked, except for after it was over, when he pretended that he was never guilt-tripping people. Even though he was.

With his groceries tweet, he wasn't really meaning to imply that he, Kat, and Jasper were starving. He was just griping about his First World Hermit problems, because that's what he does, without thinking about how it looked, and wound up coming across as exaggerating his situation for shekels and pity.

It's much the same with talk of fine dining. Phil doesn't think about how much he guilt-trips and lies to people about how broke he is, unless he's in the midst of doing it. Otherwise, his mouth just runs of its own accord, and exposes him as being somebody who has plenty of money, and no business acting like he ever needs to squeeze some out of his fans, let alone the degree of poverty his behavior suggests.

From the pigroach's POV, he's never claiming to be in dire financial straits, because even when his words suggest that he is, his brain just glosses over that because it knows those words were all lies. Anything else that suggests poverty or casts doubt on such an idea, is him being stupid.
 
It's really funny checking the users in his Twitch chat every now and then because he is always there. Everyone knows if they gave him partner back he would start streaming there again in a heartbeat. Still no public apology lmaooo
 
He didn't really imply that he was going to go hungry it's the subconscious flexing about blowing money over and over again hours before and after crying poverty begging cripples for their disability checks.
He didn't come out and directly say he's starving but saying something along the lines of "luckily I had money for breakfast but now we're waiting for my check" kind of implies he's saying he needs that money before he can eat again.

It really just shows how out of touch he is though, 100 bucks would be enough groceries for 2 people to live off for several days. No person in an actual financial emergency would spend that entire $100 or a good chunk of it on just 1 meal like he supposedly did.
 
I haven't been in the DSP saga for a long time. So, is he still relevant? I stopped caring about him during the bankruptcy saga. It's funny how a grown man really believes he can live off playing videogames,
 
Catherine is a bad person because at the very least, she knows she was the escort. She came on stream, laughed at and egged on the trolls that were part of funding her expensive trips and move-in with Philip, and gleefully accepted the thousands from wheelchairs. Fuck her.
 
I haven't been in the DSP saga for a long time. So, is he still relevant? I stopped caring about him during the bankruptcy saga. It's funny how a grown man really believes he can live off playing videogames,
Dsp has never been relevant. Right now we're on a steady descent of his income, so plenty of squirming.

And you can live off playing vidya if you're smart about it.

Moonmoon bought a house, put some in funds and is basically set. He's also employable and continued education.

For a smaller streamer that also came from the FGC, Avoiding the puddle aka Aris, lives off his stream and he's thankful for it. He quit his job at a library. He's also smart about money and is pretty much set for quite some time.

Someone like DSP with a 11 year begacy should be able to retire any fucking day if he had been smart just once in his life.
 
He didn't come out and directly say he's starving but saying something along the lines of "luckily I had money for breakfast but now we're waiting for my check" kind of implies he's saying he needs that money before he can eat again.
Phil is melodramatic about so many things, that I'm forced to think that before I think he's meaning to say what I think he is at first glance. This is the same guy who spilled a little bit of water on himself and ran to Katherine as if he just got annihilated by some neighborhood kids armed with water balloons and Super Soakers. He does not think before he speaks, and is very prone to exaggeration, like the manchild that he is.

There's also the fact that Phil does a shit job of handling his business to begin with. A smarter person entertains their audience and gets them to not think about the kind of money they're slowly giving away with bits, subs, tips, etc. There are, for sure, plenty of people who hang out on Twitch watching streamers and have, over several years, given more money to them than Cuck has to Phil. They don't even know, either, because they're never given cause to think about it. It's rather insidious, but it's done the smart way on the part of a lot of streamers.

That's why Phil and his ilk are known as beggars. They guilt-trip, they bring up their finances constantly, because they don't think about how it looks, just about getting the money, and before they know it they've spent years ruining their rep forever. If they're lucky enough to not have an expensive vice, they can eventually retire and ignore their rep. Phil isn't one of them, obviously, and so his years of constantly making his bills YOUR problem, willfully, has ruined his future.

Max Dood has an actual wife and an actual daughter. James Rolfe is the same, except with two kids, one of them apparently had medical problems from complications at birth. Think they have bills smaller than Phil does? Yet what they both do is get their ass to work, not hold begathons. Even if a 24 hour stream IS meant to help pay for a growing family, they don't say it, they just do the marathon, put on their act, and collect what they collect.

The fact that Phil claims bills bleed him but elects to guilt-trip people instead of put some real work in says more about him than anything else ever could.
 
Dsp has never been relevant. Right now we're on a steady descent of his income, so plenty of squirming.

And you can live off playing vidya if you're smart about it.

Moonmoon bought a house, put some in funds and is basically set. He's also employable and continued education.

For a smaller streamer that also came from the FGC, Avoiding the puddle aka Aris, lives off his stream and he's thankful for it. He quit his job at a library. He's also smart about money and is pretty much set for quite some time.

Someone like DSP with a 11 year begacy should be able to retire any fucking day if he had been smart just once in his life.
Spending is a big part of the issue. DSP spends like he's still back in his glory days on youtube and refuses to even consider stepping back his spending. With what he's been making the past few years he easily could have put some money aside into and IRA or something like that to have a future, instead as far as we can tell he spends it all on mobile games and fast food. Is he as poor as he cries? Absolutely not. But he's likely spending his money as it comes in and living paycheck to paycheck even though he makes like 10k a month.

I wonder if he's already back in debt? I know he's not supposed to get credit for a while after the bankruptcy but you know some predatory lenders are looking at him.
 
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