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That sound you hear is thousands of fat rainbow-haired chicks squirting in unison.
This gets to the nut of why I think it's a dumb move. I can buy a dude Tim's age coming around to maybe not being straight after all (in a New 52 context, is he even legal to drink yet?). But nobody cares except fanfic chicks who don't actually buy comics.
 
tim drake out here straight smokin' cock.

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How did Dr. Manhathhan put it best? Oh yeah and this is from the actual comic not the meme...
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Oh Well at least according to @Gaear Grimsrud Batman 89 sounds ok i actually haven't been keeping up with new comics lately but i got a payday coming up, maybe I'll order a copy come Friday. Cause at least it's ok in this day and age being okay is a fucking miracle for American comics.
 
tim drake out here straight smokin' cock.

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I'm fucking sick to my stomach right now. I thought I was immune to shit like this affecting me but this hits too close to home. Tim was one of my favorite characters when I was a kid. And now he's being turned into wokeshit propaganda and fujo bait.


At least they didn't do it to Dick or Jason. Yet. I get this horrible feeling that in the next decade someone's gonna troon out and someone's gonna be a furry.

I think I'll go buy another volume of Berserk.
 
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I have to wonder how Tim Burton feels about this given Tim was named after him as a way of saying thanks for boosting batman into mainstream success after the 89 movie...oh who am I kidding he's probably applaudding this bullshit given he's become a total sellout
 
This is some cursed shit (Archive)
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Like the post itself is already bad. Going from "hey this character originally wasn't LGBT" to "we should stick to creator’s vision 100%" then again to "every story should be the same retelling of the first story" is such a horrible strawman.

But then there's the tags:
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Citing Civil War as a good example of not following creator's vision is some rancid stuff. That shit is beyond character assassination. We have shit like:

*"The Pro-Reg is cloning Thor to kill the Anti-Reg"

*"Shield is
working with villains to hunt down the Anti-Reg"

*"Heroes Being imprisoned in Super-Gulag built in Negative Zone"

*"Captain America is obsolete because he didn't know what Nascar or Myspace is"

It's such a horrible event that for the next few years Marvel Comics have been trying to retcon the shit out of it with stuff like "The Hank Pym that clone Thor was actually a skrull" or "Tony Stark mind is rebooted so he doesn't face consequences"

And of course, the mother of all retcon:
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I can't believe tumblr retards are now putting fucking Civil War on pedestal just to defend the shitty Tim Drake retcon

Don't get me started with Civil War II
 
I thought the batman 89 was okay, but the designs are pretty nice.

I was surprised to see the Superman series there too, even more when I always wished they would continue the superboy 90's TV series in comics. Maybe DC is so bankrupt that they will explore that pool of nostalgia.
 
I can't believe tumblr retards are now putting fucking Civil War on pedestal just to defend the shitty Tim Drake retcon
It really shows how bad things have gotten; contrarians are now simping every shitty creative decision made in comics to “own angry comic fans”. How long until they start praising 90s anti heroes as good characters?
Then again, with one of the tags being “I hate nerds” I’m pretty sure this person doesn’t care about comics and just wants to coom.
 
It really shows how bad things have gotten; contrarians are now simping every shitty creative decision made in comics to “own angry comic fans”. How long until they start praising 90s anti heroes as good characters?
Then again, with one of the tags being “I hate nerds” I’m pretty sure this person doesn’t care about comics and just wants to coom.

Don't be silly.

All but the worst 90s comics are miles better than anything on the racks today.
 
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Has anyone seen much of a response about Tim from the alphabet soup portion of the internet? I admit I haven't really gone looking, but I've seen a grand total of one article discussing it, and even that was barely focused on Tim and talked about the Seduction of the Innocent drama back in the day with Bruce and Dick. It feels like Alan Scott got more attention when they announced he was gay, despite him not being as big of a name as Robin, both in his normal identity and as a Green Lantern.

I'm morbidly curious to see if it sticks. I like Tim, but he's one of those characters DC hasn't known what to do with for awhile now. I feel like after this little arc, he'll go back to obscurity until some writer gets the urge to write about him again and just has him naturally back with/interested in Steph because that's what they remember.
 
Has anyone seen much of a response about Tim from the alphabet soup portion of the internet? I admit I haven't really gone looking, but I've seen a grand total of one article discussing it, and even that was barely focused on Tim and talked about the Seduction of the Innocent drama back in the day with Bruce and Dick. It feels like Alan Scott got more attention when they announced he was gay, despite him not being as big of a name as Robin, both in his normal identity and as a Green Lantern.

I'm morbidly curious to see if it sticks. I like Tim, but he's one of those characters DC hasn't known what to do with for awhile now. I feel like after this little arc, he'll go back to obscurity until some writer gets the urge to write about him again and just has him naturally back with/interested in Steph because that's what they remember.
it'l lget mentioned, shoved aside, and then he'll dip into obscurity for a month or so and then resurface in some event.


with all the characters with potential and don't have narrative baggage, why not try making the Muslim green lantern into a homosexual? Simon Baz just isn't memorable outside of being muslim and carrying a gun with him in outer space.







or would DC get Charlie Hebdo'd by the muslims for doing this. Fucking. Cowards. :christine:
 
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Anyone read this? It was pretty based. I wish someone did something like this but with a modern twist. How cool would it be to see a super hero go rogue and butcher a dementia ridden Manchurian corporate-liberal president and his entire cabinet live on TV and cause a epic worldwide shitstorm.
 
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Anyone read this? It was pretty based. I wish someone did something like this but with a modern twist. How cool would it be to see a super hero go rogue and butcher a dementia ridden Manchurian corporate-liberal president and his entire cabinet live on TV and cause a epic worldwide shitstorm.
warren ellis still gets published?

he's been consistently entertaining and has solid work. dunno why they've been trying to cancel him.
 
it'l lget mentioned, shoved aside, and then he'll dip into obscurity for a month or so and then resurface in some event.


with all the characters with potential and don't have narrative baggage, why not try making the Muslim green lantern into a homosexual? Simon Baz just isn't memorable outside of being muslim and carrying a gun with him in outer space.







or would DC get Charlie Hebdo'd by the muslims for doing this. Fucking. Cowards. :christine:
I think some other people mentioned here how they could have made Duke gay and nobody would really get upset/it'd be an opportunity to try and introduce him into the Bat family proper and do something with him.

I think the biggest failing of Simon Baz is making him a Green Lantern. It was clear the style of stories they wanted to do with him, given his whole introduction is him being a suspected terrorist and all that. They wanted to do the "racist against Muslim" thing with him. But, trying to do that with your intergalactic character is bound to fail because nobody cares about Earth religions in space. You can maybe do a few heavy handed allegory style stories, but eh, I think it works way better with a grounded character. Well, in practice, at least, in reality, I don't think it works at all. Even with Marvel's successful Muslim character in the form of Ms. Marvel, her being Muslim is usually treated as a quirky background thing to show the writer took a few seconds to go on Wikipedia and look up a Muslim phrase or food to mention.

Has DC actually made a successful new character in the last few years? It feels like Marvel managed to churn out at least a few. They might not be pillars of the comic universe, but they're at least mainstream enough so people are aware of them. The best I can really say about DC is they took Harley and boosted her to Trinity level status, and even that I think relied largely on show nostalgia, with most people not knowing anything about the "new" Harley. Maybe Batman Who Laughs? They act like he's popular at the very least, but I've never heard anyone who really likes the character. Oh, I guess there's Jonathan Kent, but it feels like Bendis sort of killed the excitement for that character.
 
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