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I also know several. I live in a very accomodating town. I actually became good friends with one TiM, until I became uncomfortable with him criticising some women for not being as good a feminist as he was, and not understanding why his wife got upset when he made his kids call him mum.

It tends to grate as he didn't earn that title.
I had trans "friends" until I confronted one TiM for acting creepy towards a drunk 19 y/o TiF (locking themselves in a bathroom during a party, getting touchy). His excuse? "TiF understands me more than my gf".
He got mad as fuck over this. In the end, it was just a nearly 30 year old guy grooming a confused teenage girl. Who would have thought?
I also dealt with TiFs calling themselves "faggots" while saying they have zero interest in sex with men. Or TiFs that drew gay porn and fanart for years, getting money and e-fame for it and then criticized others for doing the same (calling women "fujoshis" and drawing art how "my sexuality is not your kink"). They lack self-awareness so fucking much.
 
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Trannies are failed men and women.
It's all play pretend toh ide how mediocre or sad they really are.
24/7 coping seething and dilating, living an identity that is only possible in a comfortable world such as the one we have now.
The fact that they want to control the narrative so much is just indicative of how insecure they are of their positions.
All it takes for that to crumble down is for an honest person to tell them the truth.
Sunlight really is the best disinfectant.


Also they are all pornsick and have shit taste in what porn they watch and propagate.
 
Trannies are failed men and women.
It's all play pretend toh ide how mediocre or sad they really are.
24/7 coping seething and dilating, living an identity that is only possible in a comfortable world such as the one we have now.
The fact that they want to control the narrative so much is just indicative of how insecure they are of their positions.
All it takes for that to crumble down is for an honest person to tell them the truth.
Sunlight really is the best disinfectant.


Also they are all pornsick and have shit taste in what porn they watch and propagate.
Fuck troons.
But not literally.
 
Trannies are failed men and women.
It's all play pretend toh ide how mediocre or sad they really are.
24/7 coping seething and dilating, living an identity that is only possible in a comfortable world such as the one we have now.
The fact that they want to control the narrative so much is just indicative of how insecure they are of their positions.
All it takes for that to crumble down is for an honest person to tell them the truth.
Sunlight really is the best disinfectant.


Also they are all pornsick and have shit taste in what porn they watch and propagate.
Some of them are definitely failed human beings, like the pornsick AGPs, others have actual mental illnesses and I wouldn't call them "failed" for that reason.
 
I'm going to be a bit controversial here and go against the KF grain on this issue, so sue me.

I believe that people have a right to express themselves in whatever way they so wish. If you want to say you are man or woman now, go for it, and I'll respect your stated pronouns as much as your name. Make it clear, and don't be wishy-washy.

However, there is a clear difference between a cisgendered woman versus a transgender woman, and visa versa for transmen and cisgendered men. A lot of transgender activists want to eliminate this difference in nomenclature by saying that "all women are women..." That's not right. Cisgendered women are women, but transgender women are a different kind of women.

Anyways that's the controversial piece I can't quite share with the rest of the world but I can only share here.

I've been reading the farms for years (mostly for DSP) but this is the first time I've ventured outside of the DSP board.

Anyways, I don't want to be off-topic here, for I've put in my two cents on the matter. I'm going back to Chris Chan and DSP.

The thing is your absolutely never before seen take, that is so new which none of us have ever thought of and makes you entitled to a nobel prize, is what led to trannys calling themselves literally woman/men. Or even more retarded genderless/multigendered. The trannies you know aren't the good one because there is no good way to be a tranny. If they were capable of accepting themselves as a different kind of woman or man then they would have accepted themselves as their actual sex to begin with.

To bring back the pronoun spergout, using "preferred pronouns" will always be retarded. You're calling a fucked up man she, or a tittyless woman he. Its inherently retarded. I mean you can do it but it should always been seen as retarded. As in literally retarded because you can't differentiate between men and woman like humanity has evolved to do.
 
Here's the thing: I just don't see how a transwoman's claims on womanhood undermine your own personal claim to womanhood. I do accept that their perspective on femininity is different from a cisgendered woman's though. They can't claim to know what it's like to experience childbirth, periods, etc.

I do agree that transwomen have a much different stake on womanhood (perhaps we should call it transwomanhood instead).
Most of the things that negatively affect women worldwide have to do with their biological sex. In rough ascending order according to age: selective abortion of female fetuses (no one is asking those female fetuses their gender identity), lack of access to education because they're just going to stay home with kids anyway, lack of access to sanitary products, forced marriage, lack of access to birth control and general lack of control over their own reproductive systems (if your husband has the right to your body and you don't have access to birth control, that equals forced childbearing), rape, lack of maternity leave... these are just off the top of my head.

None of these things affect 'lesbian' transwomen and most don't affect transwomen at all, because they are not born with a uterus. So TRAs are attempting to minimize these problems because they don't like it when it's not about them. Which is why GC feminists talk about 'sex-based oppression': this is stuff that simply does not affect transwomen and never will. But the gender movement is trying to make it all about 'gender' instead, as if a peasant girl in India can just identify out of her gender when her family tries to marry her off to a 40 year old.

By the way, even googling 'sex based oppression' will mostly just get you a bunch of results talking about how evil TERFS are. This is the second result I got in Google, from the Association for Women's Rights in Development. Worldwide oppression of women reduced to a snarky pun: https://www.awid.org/news-and-analysis/its-not-sex-based-unless-its-one-night-stand

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I am sure the rape victim being stoned to death in Afghanistan, or the teenage girl in Africa who has to drop out of school because she can't access menstrual products, or the woman in El Salvador jailed for having a miscarriage that a male judge decided was an illegal abortion, are all happy that the world's most powerful and influential institutions have decided not to "reduce women to outdated and non-scientific perceptions of binary biological sex". I mean, it's not like they have any real problems, like women arguing with them online. And if they didn't want those things to happen to them why do they identify as the female gender? Idiots.

(Also note how that text slips 'violently' in there. Women disagreeing with AGPs is always violent. AGPs beating and raping women is not violent, it's just self-defense.)

A quick check of this org's Board of Directors and what do we find:

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As far as I can tell she's the only TW on the board of directors, but it only takes one, apparently. The whole structure behind the fight for women's rights must change, and that process must necessarily erase most of the biology-based issues that women actually face, because the alternative is that people like Julia might feel slightly uncomfortable. And isn't that the most important thing?

And sorry for the double post, but this does not make it impossible for individual trans people to be normal and friendly and harmless on an individual level. But 99% of these individuals are, unfortunately, still fully supportive of an incredibly harmful cult run by people like Julia up there. The issue I have is with the movement and the way any criticism of it is treated like literal murder, even by otherwise sane people.
 
Most of the things that negatively affect women worldwide have to do with their biological sex. In rough ascending order according to age: selective abortion of female fetuses (no one is asking those female fetuses their gender identity), lack of access to education because they're just going to stay home with kids anyway, lack of access to sanitary products, forced marriage, lack of access to birth control and general lack of control over their own reproductive systems (if your husband has the right to your body and you don't have access to birth control, that equals forced childbearing), rape, lack of maternity leave... these are just off the top of my head.

None of these things affect 'lesbian' transwomen and most don't affect transwomen at all, because they are not born with a uterus. So TRAs are attempting to minimize these problems because they don't like it when it's not about them. Which is why GC feminists talk about 'sex-based oppression': this is stuff that simply does not affect transwomen and never will. But the gender movement is trying to make it all about 'gender' instead, as if a peasant girl in India can just identify out of her gender when her family tries to marry her off to a 40 year old.

By the way, even googling 'sex based oppression' will mostly just get you a bunch of results talking about how evil TERFS are. This is the second result I got in Google, from the Association for Women's Rights in Development. Worldwide oppression of women reduced to a snarky pun: https://www.awid.org/news-and-analysis/its-not-sex-based-unless-its-one-night-stand

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I am sure the rape victim being stoned to death in Afghanistan, or the teenage girl in Africa who has to drop out of school because she can't access menstrual products, or the woman in El Salvador jailed for having a miscarriage that a male judge decided was an illegal abortion, are all happy that the world's most powerful and influential institutions have decided not to "reduce women to outdated and non-scientific perceptions of binary biological sex". I mean, it's not like they have any real problems, like women arguing with them online. And if they didn't want those things to happen to them why do they identify as the female gender? Idiots.

(Also note how that text slips 'violently' in there. Women disagreeing with AGPs is always violent. AGPs beating and raping women is not violent, it's just self-defense.)

A quick check of this org's Board of Directors and what do we find:

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As far as I can tell she's the only TW on the board of directors, but it only takes one, apparently. The whole structure behind the fight for women's rights must change, and that process must necessarily erase most of the biology-based issues that women actually face, because the alternative is that people like Julia might feel slightly uncomfortable. And isn't that the most important thing?
Women must accomodate weak anglo males otherwise the consequences will be dire.

Once again the eternal anglo strikes.

Also regarding the fact that some of the trannies have mental illnesses: we don't tell schizophrenics that the voices in their head are true and honest.
So validating the delusional belief that twans women are real women is just prepping them for disaster once that annoying thing called conscience surfaces and tell them the truth

P. L. But i unfortunately attracted many trannies, being a supreme gentleman I conversed with them rather than proclaim fire and brimstone as I should have.
All it took for them to turn into angry spiteful males was a "No".
No I will not fuck you.
No I don't think that dress looks nice.
No I am not an egg and I will not stick two fingers up my ass to try.

Every single time they were denied the ow so feminine dainty transwoman turned into a screeching spoiled failed male.
I wonder why.
 
Here's the thing: I just don't see how a transwoman's claims on womanhood undermine your own personal claim to womanhood. I do accept that their perspective on femininity is different from a cisgendered woman's though. They can't claim to know what it's like to experience childbirth, periods, etc.

I do agree that transwomen have a much different stake on womanhood (perhaps we should call it transwomanhood instead).
Because most of us reject the entire premise of "gender". Im not a cis woman, i dont "identify" myself as a women, i AM one because i was BORN in a female body.

I refuse to use terms as cis and trans. There are women and there are men in dresses. There's nothing else.
 
And sorry for the double post, but this does not make it impossible for individual trans people to be normal and friendly and harmless on an individual level. But 99% of these individuals are, unfortunately, still fully supportive of an incredibly harmful cult run by people like Julia up there. The issue I have is with the movement and the way any criticism of it is treated like literal murder, even by otherwise sane people.

And I agree, it is impossible to have a healthy discussion about transgender issues in today's all or nothing environment. Which is why I don't see trans people as what they claim they are, but rather in another category of their own. But still, here's the thing: I don't think transgender people are harming others outright with their specific demands to be treated equitably in most situations.
 
And I agree, it is impossible to have a healthy discussion about transgender issues in today's all or nothing environment. Which is why I don't see trans people as what they claim they are, but rather in another category of their own. But still, here's the thing: I don't think transgender people are harming others outright with their specific demands to be treated equitably in most situations.
If it actually were as you say this thread would not exist; it's not about being treated fairly, it's all about validation and how refusing to give these people said validation is literal violence.

If you criticize a tranny for their disgusting behaviour you're automatically labeled a right winger nutjob [See the Wi-Spa incident]; if you dare say that dysphoria is an actual mental illness you're treated as a madman; and god forbid you even show a minimum of sympathy towards detransitioners as you'll be immediately told that what you're doing is wrong [See all the times a de-trans person tries to speak up/ the 60 minutes tranny meltdown].
 
And I agree, it is impossible to have a healthy discussion about transgender issues in today's all or nothing environment. Which is why I don't see trans people as what they claim they are, but rather in another category of their own. But still, here's the thing: I don't think transgender people are harming others outright with their specific demands to be treated equitably in most situations.
This is the first time I've ventured outside of the DSP board.

Anyways, I don't want to be off-topic here, for I've put in my two cents on the matter. I'm going back to Chris Chan and DSP.
You, last page. With all due respect it's beyond obvious just how out of your element you are here in this discussion. Several other user's replies have done a good job highlighting how wrong you are but it's pretty clear that you're simply not all that interested in actually hearing out where it is that they are coming from. There is a reason this thread is quickly going to be reaching the 3,000 page count and it's not because we're bitter, failed troons ourselves who are projecting our insecurities like the other user would like you to believe.

I think it's safe to say that a decent amount of users posting in this thread once held similar beliefs to those that you're now espousing ITT. That's not to say that all of them have ever felt that way, but if your first and/or only exposure to trannies was another MSM headline claiming they're being relentlessly targeted and murdered in the streets for wearing nail polish then I can understand why it is you find yourself wanting to extend the olive branch and be sympathetic to their "cause". Troons would love nothing more than for you to accept their sales pitch that their movement for equality is in 100% good faith and a mirror image of the gay rights movement where the end goal is to just be left alone, respected as human beings, and allowed equal treatment under the law.

Unfortunately in 2021 that's just not the reality that we're currently living in, in fact it's far, far from it. I honestly don't think it would take you scrolling through more than 7~ pages of this thread to get a basic understanding of where it is I'm coming from here either. Which is why I suspect that like others here have pointed out, you're not entirely addressing this thread from a genuinely good faith perspective.
 
"Trans women are the most attacked and harassed women in the U.S."

Actually, it's black women. But you probably knew that.
It’s simply women, of all nationalities or race.
30-ish years ago, ever 6 seconds, a woman was killed, globally. Wonder (rhetorically) how much this has increased to, today.
It may be true that many transwomen have a different perspective on femininity than women do, but that has nothing to do with womanhood.
Exactly. The only thing women have in common at all is that they are adult human females. Period.

Any window dressings to this are personality, phenotype, or bullshit. Etc.
 
it's not because we're bitter, failed troons ourselves who are projecting our insecurities like the other user would like you to believe.
The essays and power leveling about how they trooned out when they were younger says otherwise. Failed at being women, failed at being men, now doing a shit job of being TERFs.

Less college grade hand wringing about feminism, more laughing at Trannies.
 
Previously mentioned here:
Britain's first trans football referee, who looks so feminine that I'm sure a few of us would be fooled into thinking that it's a real woman after drinking a few pints of beer.

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/la...nder-referee-lucy-clark-support-football-fans
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One of those “first OPENLY trans“ (what do they do when all the firsts are taken?): “Lucy“ Nick Clark
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Nicky got transphobic abuse hurled at him by a team in the league which got fined 80£ - a horrible injustice! Keep up the male energy, dude. Just force everyone to bow to your fetish. Demand they validate you publicly, that will force them into submission. And make sure to whine about this literal violence on twitter. Unlike all the women who are suspended, right?
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A woman gets kicked out of a bar for wearing an LGB Alliance shirt. Nicky‘s tip: just don‘t be guilty of wrongthink! Dare I say, she was bringing it on herself with the way she dressed.
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Insinuating that Arty Morty is a pedophile is just a joke! Absolutely not on the same level as evil misgendering. If Nicky had committed suicide before coming out as trans it wouldn‘t even have counted towards the 41% - are they even higher than we thought? 🤔 Shock, horror! They need to improve at inflating their bullshit statistics.
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Nicky likes to pretend he is one of the reasonable troons. Against self-ID and men in women‘s prison, BUT…. transsexuals actually change sex, TW are female, there is no biological difference relevant to sports, lesbians are trans-exclusive bigots and anyone who has a Gender Recognition Certificate is genuinely a true & honest woman. To the „my trans friends are nice“ people out there: This is why their ideology is harmful and idiotic. No single trans deluded person is a the opposite sex and humoring them will only result in these dumb exceptions.
God, the GC lite are at it again being nice and understanding. Get a fucking grip! Either you believe in magical gender souls or you don‘t. Stop the excuses for ppl like Hayton et al.
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As you can see Nicky likes to LARP as a nice oldschool troon. But is a rabid TRA when it comes to sports, lesbians and trans legal fictions. Absolutely self-serving. Wonder why he is so vehemently opposed to lesbians having a voice.
 
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