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CDC issues new eviction moratorium​

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is issuing a new, "temporary" moratorium on evictions, the agency announced Tuesday. The new moratorium, which CBS News confirmed earlier Tuesday would be announced, will be separate from the CDC's prior eviction moratorium that expired over the weekend.

The new order, which expires on October 3, covers counties experiencing "substantial" or "high" levels of COVID-19 spread. One source familiar with the moratorium said that currently includes about 80% of U.S. counties, or 90% of the U.S. population.

"The emergence of the delta variant has led to a rapid acceleration of community transmission in the United States, putting more Americans at increased risk, especially if they are unvaccinated," CDC Director Rochelle Walensky said Tuesday. "This moratorium is the right thing to do to keep people in their homes and out of congregate settings where COVID-19 spreads."

The latest moratorium order could face legal challenges, after the Supreme Court determined the Biden administration couldn't extend the previous moratorium eviction through executive action. As the latest eviction moratorium was about to end last week, the White House told Congress to act, while Congress called on the White House to act. The White House said it lacked the authority to extend the moratorium.

In June, the Supreme Court decided in a 5-4 decision to allow the eviction ban to continue through the end of July. One of the justices voting in the majority, Justice Brett Kavanaugh, made clear that he would block any additional extensions unless there was "clear and specific congressional authorization."

President Biden told reporters Tuesday afternoon he isn't sure whether the new eviction moratorium will pass constitutional muster, but any litigation would "probably give some additional time" for rental assistance funds to flow.

"Any call for a moratorium based on the Supreme Court's recent decision is likely to face obstacles. I've indicated to the CDC I'd like to look at other alternatives," the president told reporters Tuesday.

Meanwhile, public health officials raised concerns that allowing evictions to resume while the coronavirus is surging again could lead more people to get sick and die unnecessarily.

Representative Cori Bush has slept outside the Capitol to protest the end of the eviction moratorium, and call for action. She tweeted Tuesday afternoon that "our movement moved mountains."

"On Friday night, I came to the Capitol with my chair," Bush tweeted. "I refused to accept that Congress could leave for vacation while 11 million people faced eviction. For 5 days, we've been out here, demanding that our government acts to save lives. Today, our movement moved mountains."

 

[TheShedCollector]

That's already a thing in London.

'My landlord wants six months' rent upfront'

Some tenants face big demands from landlords for upfront rent and there is no legal limit.

www.bbc.com

Wow. It's almost as if the government tries to screw someone over they take actions to try and avoid being screwed over. Who'd have guessed.

 

[JohnDoe]

There actually are laws in places, with precedent, that you can't evict in the winter for that reason. So, effectively, this is a moratorium until 2022......

Half-assedly delaying this situation so that it really explodes during the mid-term elections is precisely the kind of incompetent move I expect from this administration. Instead of ripping off the band-aid now and hoping it subsides, they want everyone totally fucked as the polls open. Will they try the promise of more gib-me-dats as their electoral strategy? Or are they just hoping that the riots burn everything down while the elites move to New Zealand?

 

[Aqua Panda]

Half-assedly delaying this situation so that it really explodes during the mid-term elections is precisely the kind of incompetent move I expect from this administration. Instead of ripping off the band-aid now and hoping it subsides, they want everyone totally fucked as the polls open. Will they try the promise of more gib-me-dats as their electoral strategy? Or are they just hoping that the riots burn everything down while the elites move to New Zealand?

It's 100% delay as long as possible and if things go South, use it as a poll issue during the midterms. Don't be surprised at all if mass evictions start happening, they push for another stimulus bill. They have to be getting antsy about the midterms with the Delta variant shooting Covid numbers up and the economy being hypercharged with newly printed money from the last few stimulus packages. (Aka it's due for a massive cooling and Wallstreet is eventually going to have a nasty correction.)

As you say, it's just kicking the can down the road and making the eventual implosion worse when the bandage is ripped off.

 

[thyme's up]

They don't expect a lot of these things to pass into law, just to make them look good to gibsmedat addicts for the next election.

It's exactly this. Camping out on the capitol steps? Performative. It's all theater for the next election. Politicians create the problem, come up with a temporary solution that in the end makes the problem worse, blame their opponents for the worsening problem (We did something, You didn't) and then make the voting machines go brrr.

So who does this affect? Middle and lower middle class, people who still believe paying bills in a timely manner matters, anyone wanting to get into the rental property business, and people who manage their money well but because of a perfect storm (job loss, divorce, death, act of God, etc) are living without much margin.

Who wins in all this? Politicians, banks, foreign investors, the government, the elite. We're building back better folks, and that's no malarkey!

 

[Vault Boy]

On one hand, I think that the Supreme Court could be mighty interested in the CDC blatantly flouting their previous ruling. On the other hand, these are the same guys who did nothing about the election fuckery (not even rule in favor of the DNC, they outright refused to listen to any of the cases), so who knows if they have the spine to put the CDC in their place.

Between the CDC's bullshit and "emergency" powers lasting for over a year, some things really need a hard look at.

 

[murdered meat bag]

It's going to be worse for the deadbeats that don't pay rent the longer they keep this up. Unless they keep this up until June next year they're going to be kicked out in the middle of winter with high amount of debt and few landlords willing to rent.

in nyc, if a tenet doesnt pay for the heat, the bill goes to the landlord. theres similar laws to evicting in winter time.

 

[LaxerBRO]

The Biden Regime and CDC have now directly asserted that they have more authority than SCOTUS.

They do not.

The question now is what will SCOTUS do.

Nothing. By the time this gets to SCOTUS the moratorium will have expired and the CDC will pinky promise not to do it again. Since the case is moot, as the moratorium expired, SCOTUS will dismiss the case like it did with New York Rifle and Pistol Association.

 

[The handsome tard]

Landlords are people too and they gotta pay their shit too with the rent money. I dont get why people think landlords are all rich like Bezos, sometimes they are in a finantial situation as bad if not worst than the person they get rent money from. Im simply saying the issue isnt that simple.

But hey, its only moral relativism when its in favor to them.

 

[Haramburger]

Landlords are people too and they gotta pay their shit too with the rent money. I dont get why people think landlords are all rich like Bezos, sometimes they are in a finantial situation as bad if not worst than the person they get rent money from. Im simply saying the issue isnt that simple.

But hey, its only moral relativism when its in favor to them.

A friend explained his mortgage during a raid recently and was exasperated that even if he had the mortgage completely paid off, he'd still be paying half of its monthly rate as property tax every month indirectly(he has to pay it twice a year in a large lump). You never stop paying, even if you "own" it.

Collections seem scary but aren't always, depends on how much you owe. I ducked collections(on principle for a specific situation) for five-ish years and got off scot-free. I don't recommend it, but it's definitely an option if you aren't moving/going anywhere for a while. College students should consider it, excluding any federal aid you opt into.

 

[Dan Abrams]

I was looking forward to another chimpening when tons of deadbeats get kicked out to the curb. I guess I'll have to wait a few more months.

Landlords are people too and they gotta pay their shit too with the rent money. I dont get why people think landlords are all rich like Bezos, sometimes they are in a finantial situation as bad if not worst than the person they get rent money from. Im simply saying the issue isnt that simple.

But hey, its only moral relativism when its in favor to them.

Landlords are the most evil people on the planet. Only a Nazi would own something and then dare to make someone pay for the privilege of living there.

 

[737 MAX Stan Account]

I'd just hire some mobsters to get the deadbeats to pay up, one way or another. Though you'd need to creative rebranding to mask the fact that you've just started a protection racket

 

[NyQuilninja]

That's interesting. I didn't think the police would get involved in civil disputes. Where I live we have different tiers of bailiffs with different powers. Evictions are carried out by them. They aren't police officers but the moment someone they are dealing with starts shouting, making a scene or threatening anyone the police get called.

That's extremely interesting. I wonder if in the future you'll have to pay rent in advance rather than in arrears.

"Sure thing single mother struggling to find somewhere to live we can rent you a place to live, we just need the $30,000 upfront and you're all set"

At lest in my state evictions are carried out by the sheriff's department. And they are absolutely unapologetic about it. 1 hour get your shit out or we'll call a crew and have it dumped on the curb. In some cases they'll just lock up the place and you'll have to go to small claims to get your stuff back. The landlord can hold your property for 30 days if you owe money. After the 30 days if you haven't paid you lose your stuff and will be billed for the court cost plus rent and damages. Worth noting an eviction is a permanent mark against future rentals in my state. Many property groups will automatically reject your application. Even HUD will blacklist you for 2 years if your evicted. If fail you fail to pay your mortgage or taxes the marshalls will eventually show up and supervise a cleaning crew. All of your processions will be dump on the curb and new locks will be put on the doors.

 

[Terrifik]

The Biden Regime and CDC have now directly asserted that they have more authority than SCOTUS.

They do not.

The question now is what will SCOTUS do.

Most likely nothing unless court case comes along.

 

[Sneed's Feed And Seed]

There actually are laws in places, with precedent, that you can't evict in the winter for that reason.

And who, pray tell, will enforce these laws? The police that have been defunded?

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

The Biden Regime and CDC have now directly asserted that they have more authority than SCOTUS.

They do not.

The question now is what will SCOTUS do.

Absolutely fucking nothing. Look at Obamacare: first validate it with a Marquis de Sade-tier tortured reading of the text ("it's a tax!") then when the tax gets repealed, just ignore it because something something standing something something stare decisis. They'll talk tough about reining in executive branch overreach, but when you remember that this is an executive branch they specifically abrogated the Constitution to install, those threats are absolutely worthless.

The not-so-secret sauce is that the SCOTUS runs on mystique: it only has power as long as the rest of the government agrees to play along. If they actually defy the Biden regime in any serious way, all he has to do is say "you and uh, you know, the thing, with the army" and they'll sit down and shut up. They won't have a choice, and they know it. In order to have power, a Supreme Court decision, no matter how generally unpopular, needs some elite support to be "real" in the sense of getting the enforcement arms of the state on board. Nothing that goes against Biden and pals will have that support, so the Supremes can't make those rulings lest they be revealed as a paper tiger.

 

[LaxerBRO]

I was looking forward to another chimpening when tons of deadbeats get kicked out to the curb. I guess I'll have to wait a few more months.

Landlords are the most evil people on the planet. Only a Nazi would own something and then dare to make someone pay for the privilege of living there.

I always wondered if those FUCK LANDLORDS people would be okay with people not paying property tax.

 

[Rykel22]

The not-so-secret sauce is that the SCOTUS runs on mystique: it only has power as long as the rest of the government agrees to play along. If they actually defy the Biden regime in any serious way, all he has to do is say "you and uh, you know, the thing, with the army" and they'll sit down and shut up. They won't have a choice, and they know it. In order to have power, a Supreme Court decision, no matter how generally unpopular, needs some elite support to be "real" in the sense of getting the enforcement arms of the state on board. Nothing that goes against Biden and pals will have that support, so the Supremes can't make those rulings lest they be revealed as a paper tiger.

And once the Feds ignore SCOTUS, how long until the red states fully start to?

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

And once the Feds ignore SCOTUS, how long until the red states fully start to?

Probably too long. The right is plagued by a high degree of agreeableness, and the willingness to go along to get along is ultimately what's made the "conservative" movement into the bad punchline it is today. If the Red states were to band together in a V4-like internal bloc to counterbalance the outsize influence of places like NY and Cali, they would have a good chance of telling the feds to sit down and shut up- but the right has a huge contingent of dominant Boomers who thing our slide into a commodified corporate hellscape is some kind of big misunderstanding, so they keep trying to repair something that nobody but them thinks is malfunctioning.

 

[Tom Myers]

Just paid my rent and I feel like a putz AMA

 

[Jet Fuel Johnny]

Just paid my rent and I feel like a putz AMA

I'm kind of in the same boat.

The guy I'm buying the house from had to have cancer surgery and hasn't felt like coming out and collecting the mortgage, so I'm sitting around with 2 months worth the mortgage just chilling. On the plus side, I have less than a year to go with our handshake and scrawled on a piece of paper and filed with the county clerk deal.