🐱 An Intense Fight With My Husband Has Me Convinced Our Entire Life Is a Lie

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Dear How to Do It,Please help. Im pretty sure my husband of more than 20 years is gay.

Some background: I have anxiety, and anxiety can come with paranoia at times. Hes been my only sexual partner, and we were married when I was in my early 20s. We are of similar ages, but he had been in other sexual relationships, which was fine with me. I just hadnt. Now, 20-plus years and multiple kids later, half our marriage has been him not wanting to have much to do with physical stuff like kissing, cuddling, or sex—unless I perform on him, usually. I am lonely as hell. We sleep in the same bed, but I feel like we are just roommates. Hes not super mean, and Ive brought this conversation up so many times up over the last 15 or so years, but every time theres another reason: He has bad breath; hes tired; he just wants to be with his friends (Im not invited). He says every time I bring it up, I make it harder for him. On the rare occasion (two times a year tops) we do have intercourse, he cant finish unless I perform orally on him.

For a while, I thought he may have a girlfriend on the side and that frustrated me, but the more I thought about it, I realized he really is out with two specific male friends—one single, one married—and hes often out with them three-to-four nights and days a week. He works from home, and I do understand he needs a break from the home atmosphere, but Im suspicious now. Like I said, Ive tried to have this conversation, but he always gets very angry and blames my mental health. Weve even been to marriage counseling, and he is adamant he will never go again. He says he wouldnt care if I was out with female friends three or four nights a week, but he also knows I dont have female friends to hang out with.

Finally, a month ago, I asked him straight up in as supportive of a way as I thought possible if he was gay. I had actually started a month before that by asking if his one friend was gay, and he said no—he just is happy alone. This time when I said ya know, if you were, we could make life work. I love you, I support you, we could make things work.” I was thinking he could be with this guy, maybe give me some child support for a short time but an amicable split, and he could be happy and we would be friendly. I could in time perhaps find a new relationship, but Im not sure about that at this point. Mostly Im already on my own besides him bringing in the income, so if he could be happier with someone else, I do want that for him.

Well, he was enraged. More than Ive seen him in many years. He is liberal and not hateful of the LGBTQ+ community, but it seemed even more like he didnt want to admit he could be gay. If he had laughed it off, I would have believed him more. What should I do now? I am in therapy. Ive done work on myself for many years. Ive read marriage books and articles and have an arsenal of self-help coping skills. I am at a loss. I love him, but Im also lonely in my own home.

— Straight and Alone

Dear S.A.,

It’s worth thinking through your suspicions a little more. You have not provided proof or even compelling evidence that your husband is gay. He could be asexual. He could be heterosexual but confused and frustrated about waning desire within his long-term relationship, which is extremely common (see: innumerable past and, without a doubt, future questions sent in to this column). He could have low testosterone that is contributing to low desire. He could be having sex with women when he claims to be out with his friends. He could very well be gay, as you suspect, but you just don’t know. I think the “he’s gay” narrative may be attractive because it provides a coherent explanation for the state of things while casting you as an innocent who has seen the love of her life disintegrate without having so much as a shot at controlling the outcome.

People cling to narratives because, even at their bleakest, there is something comforting about drawing a line from A to B and making sense of the journey. What you describe, though, is fraught with such uncertainty, it’s its own kind of quiet chaos. And I think the primary injustice being inflicted by your husband is his refusal to give you that appealing through-line so that you can wrap your head around how you ended up here. His blaming your warranted curiosity on your mental health or whining about your perfectly justified questions “making it hard for him” is unfair. It could reasonably be described as mistreatment. You know that something is up, and his refusal to engage with your perception is cruel. He’s trying to make you believe that this is all in your head, and that you can only do harm by attempting to ameliorate your own confusion. This is not compassionate, and it’s a failure on his part. It’s his job as a partner to at least attempt to put whatever shame he has about what he’s going through aside and give it to you straight. Or give it to you gay, whatever his situation may be.

I don’t think his fury at your accusation is necessarily good evidence either—there are straight guys who are queer allies in the abstract, so long as queerness doesn’t get anywhere near them and certainly doesn’t reflect back on them. If he absolutely refuses to work with you, you’re going to have to give up on this relationship. That sucks, but look at it this way: You’re already lonely. You could sit around and get lonelier or attempt to create a new path for yourself that may result in the relief of your loneliness. If your husband won’t give you closure, you’re going to have to carve out your own.


Dear How to Do It,

Im a 25-year-old woman who lives with my parents and pays heavily discounted rent and utilities because I havent been able to find a white collar” job since I finished my MS degree. I work in a coffee shop. My 26-year-old boyfriend got laid off a few months ago and had to move back in with his parents. Prior to that he had his own place but had four roommates. Rent in our city is insane, and the upfront cost is huge. Its going to be at least another six months until he has enough saved to move out.

Since our parents literally never leave the house, were barely having sex, save for a few random one-off nights in hotel rooms paid for with gift cards (with our parents texting us every hour asking where we are and if well be home for dinner). Were going out of our minds, but our parents are prudish, and theyre giving us such a good deal on rent that we cant exactly ask them to get out of their own house.

After complaining about this to our friend group, it seems like a good number of us are in the same boat. Everyone is so miserable due to our collective sexless existence in our childhood bedrooms. What are the best places to have sex, outside of the house, that are preferably not going to put us on the sex offender registry?

— Horny 25-Year-Olds

Dear H.25.,

Ah yes, the old “hosting” dilemma—look on many hook-up apps and you’ll see that while a lot of people want sex, it seems like few can offer space in which to have it. I think you just have to be creative with your scheduling. You can look into hotels and motels that rent rooms by the hour, but many such establishments have “seedy” reputations, which may be warranted. (As someone who once had bed bugs, I’d be remiss if I didn’t mention that high-traffic beds have a greater probability of infestation. I think about this all the time, at every hotel, whether the bed is high traffic or not. The bed bugs really changed me, and though they were exterminated, they reside in the nooks and crannies of my mind, perhaps indefinitely.) You could look into public sex venues, such as a swinger’s club or a sex party, but that of course changes the dynamic and perhaps nature of the sex you’d be having. If you’re not looking to be looked at, such a site might not work for you. Obviously, people have sex in places like bar bathrooms and parked cars, but these are exactly the options that you seek to avoid, as they could end up in criminal prosecution. I think you should schedule around your parents. I don’t quite believe that they “literally” never leave, and if they don’t, well, you’re an adult and can perhaps negotiate some privacy. Otherwise, do sleepovers and learn the art of silence.

Dear How to Do It,

Im a gay man with an incest kink, mainly centered on father/son role playing. Ive explored this kink mainly on Reddit subs, and while I mostly meet other users with similar fantasies, I sometimes come across people whose kink seems rooted in past trauma (who Im concerned about) and, most disturbingly, those who want to push the boundaries of the kink outside fantasy. Most recently, I started talking to a guy who admitted to having his two sons sleep naked with him in bed. Aside from reporting and blocking him, which feels inadequate, what is my responsibility here? And how should I handle other users who share my kink but whom I otherwise consider shady? Its making me question whether I should indulge my kink at all, given who Im potentially rubbing shoulders with.

— Game Over?

Dear G.O.,

I think your responsibility is bound to the standards of the forum in which you have become acquainted, so reporting any violation of community guidelines is about the best you can do, unless you happen to have this person’s full name and location and can report to higher authorities. Of course, this guy’s admission about his children could just be more play—you have no real way of ferreting out what’s real and what’s part of the running fantasy when you meet someone in a venue that is powered by fantasizing. I’m not suggesting that optimism or the benefit of the doubt is due when someone seemingly reveals molestation (or something in that vicinity), just that proving an internet stranger is inflicting actual abuse is going to be difficult without hard proof (and, since such hard proof would probably be illegal to possess in itself, you don’t want that anyway).

It does seem like if you’re chatting with strangers about incest, you’re going to be faced with something distasteful sooner or later—you have to determine whether your disgust response is up to it and if you can live with yourself after. I think it’s important to point out that we rub shoulders with all kinds of people all the time. I once connected with someone online whose identity I uncovered via his email address and promptly found a link to his page on the sex offender registry. There is so much we don’t know about the strangers that we’re sharing (or potentially sharing) such intimate moments with. But in your specific case, I can’t imagine this being an isolated incident. Tone is a hard thing to suss out online, harder still in places where illegal, life-destroying acts are discussed. If this is feeling like it’s going too far for your taste, it’s probably time to reevaluate and make different choices.

— Rich
 
Dear G.O - H.25 and S.A:
all ya'll niggas are straight up retarded. Quit being dumb, yo.
 
Your man needing to get off in your mouth doesnt make him gay. Have you considered kegel exercises after your multiple births?
 
Straight and Alone should see if putting a bag over her head at night (with a hole cut out for the mouth) will help. The husband wants to be out of the house for a good reason, and it's definitely not because of the kids.
 
We are of similar ages, but he had been in other sexual relationships, which was fine with me. I just hadnt. Now, 20-plus years and multiple kids later, half our marriage has been him not wanting to have much to do with physical stuff like kissing, cuddling, or sex—unless I perform on him, usually.

Hmm. Well, gays who want to marry beards are usually from conservative religious backgrounds, thus the beards are more likely to be virgins than normal, which also helps the guy control the beard better since she’s innocent.

But sounds like there was no issue the first ten years, so...a gay is a gay from the start.

I say she’s fat, and he would not have sex with her.
 
Now, 20-plus years and multiple kids later, half our marriage has been him not wanting to have much to do with physical stuff like kissing, cuddling, or sex—unless I perform on him, usually.
What do you look like?
This time when I said ya know, if you were, we could make life work. I love you, I support you, we could make things work.” I was thinking he could be with this guy, maybe give me some child support for a short time but an amicable split, and he could be happy and we would be friendly.
Woman says one thing but means another. This is absolutely unheard of in human history.
I could in time perhaps find a new relationship, but Im not sure about that at this point. Mostly Im already on my own besides him bringing in the income, so if he could be happier with someone else, I do want that for him.
So you're just bored of him and want some new dick, but rather than do the righteous thing and just leave him, you want to gaslight him into being a faggot.

I want to write the Five Words that begins with Islam and ends with Women.
Well, he was enraged. More than Ive seen him in many years. He is liberal and not hateful of the LGBTQ+ community, but it seemed even more like he didnt want to admit he could be gay. If he had laughed it off, I would have believed him more.
"My puppet didn't respond how I envisioned he should, therefore he's a raging homosexual just dying for strange dicks, which has absolutely nothing to do with projecting my own depraved lusts onto my husband."

Pottery.
 
Imagine this: You are a man who got married too young to a woman who - now that you've had to spend a lot of time around her due to working from home - you realize is much crazier than you remember. Because you spend all day at home where she annoys you non-stop while you try and get through the work day, you start going out and hanging with The Boys after work. This, for no reason, makes her start telling you that you're gay. Then, one day, for no reason at all she walks up to you and goes 'ARE YOU GAY OR WHAT?!"

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Imagine this: You are a man who got married too young to a woman who - now that you've had to spend a lot of time around her due to working from home - you realize is much crazier than you remember. Because you spend all day at home where she annoys you non-stop while you try and get through the work day, you start going out and hanging with The Boys after work. This, for no reason, makes her start telling you that you're gay. Then, one day, for no reason at all she walks up to you and goes 'ARE YOU GAY OR WHAT?!"

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Holy shit your not wrong a couple of guys I know formed there own mens club house of sorts on a farm with a Morton building just to get the fuck away from there wives. To this day I still hear there wives occasionally accuse them of being closeted gays for not wanting them around there men's only hangout
 
Shit, I wouldn't want to have sex with my wife if she was the kind of person who went behind my back to anonymously shittalk me to the point of hypothesizing latent homosexuality. That's just disrespectful, and it's hard for me to feel disrespected.

Your man needing to get off in your mouth doesnt make him gay.
It might mean that her coochie smells of brimstone.
 
I think it's more like he's become bi-curious and can't admit it. Maybe he's not attracted to her anymore because she got fat or something.

Just divorce now. It's gonna happen eventually anyway. Why extend the pain further?
 
Well, he was enraged. More than Ive seen him in many years. He is liberal and not hateful of the LGBTQ+ community, but it seemed even more like he didnt want to admit he could be gay. If he had laughed it off, I would have believed him more. What should I do now? I am in therapy. Ive done work on myself for many years. Ive read marriage books and articles and have an arsenal of self-help coping skills. I am at a loss. I love him, but Im also lonely in my own home.
Nutjob accuses husband of being a fag after asking his friend if he is a fag and is amazed when he gets mad.
 
COVID didn't help, but it's pretty common for women to end up friendless as adults. I've performed social repairs for 4 different women in my family/life by bringing them to social gatherings and setting up friend dates for them. Just one of the minor quirks of clown world, a forum-dwelling weirdo fixing normie's social hang-ups.

It's not entirely a gendered thing, but I would expect women to be better in general at continuing to make friends. A lot of people seem to give up meeting new people after 25ish and as their existing friend base drifts apart or people move/die off, there's almost never any attempt to meet new people and shore those numbers back up. I guess it takes a mild autist monitoring severe autists to have the perspective of refreshing people connections like crops.
 
I think it's more like he's become bi-curious and can't admit it. Maybe he's not attracted to her anymore because she got fat or something.

Just divorce now. It's gonna happen eventually anyway. Why extend the pain further?
lol calm down
 
She shouldn't have asked her husband if he was gay, she should have asked him if he was bisexual. Straight-fronting gay man will never admit to gay straight out, they always go for the Bi angle first.

<Source>: Watched ex-family friend go through two marriages and two kids before finally saying he was "Bi", then he just went full gay.

In this ladies case though, I think she is just fucking crazy, and the fact she is fucking crazy is why her husband doesn't want anything to do with her. She should take up a white wine/xanax habit like a good little WASP and enjoy her journey into menopause. She is the type of mother who is asking her kids every time she sees them after they get out of university "Did you meet anyone" and as soon as they do "When are you going to settle down and have kids?" so she has grandchildren to entertain her and give her life some meaning.
 
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I think it's the '-3 to 4 days a week of staying overnight with 2 other guy friends' that has the secretly gay antenna up.

That is major weird but he could just be visiting strip clubs I guess. Or not.
 
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