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Didn't Trump try to pull troops out and all his military advisors admitted that they lied to him about the amount being pulled out to keep troops there?
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PS1gamenwatch
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They lie to everyone. Even to the fish. No surprise. How do we know they're still not lying?
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Trump tried to pull us out of Afghanistan and three things happened:
The DOD, Joint Chiefs, and Sec-Def lied to him about force levels.
The Media lambasted him for "What about all the blood!" as well as for negotiating with the Taliban, screaming "What about all the dead soldiers!" like they gave a fuck.
The Dems screamed and kicked and threw fits and refused to do it, calling him a traitor for wanting to end a war.
And all Biden did was pull the troops out, leave all the gear, had to be pressured by the International Community and the DOD to bring back the Afghani's who helped us, all so that he knows that they'll start pushing at Pakistan and will become a problem very quickly.
Normally I'd welcome a troop pullout, but I'm looking at this one very askance since they tried to BTFO Trump for wanting to pull out in an orderly transition and then had Biden just load everyone up on planes and leave billions of dollars of gear on the ground, beyond even the normal pullout leave-behind because it's cheaper bit.
Every time they screech about how Biden pulled out of Afghanistan, you need to look REAL close at what's going on, because they're hiding the bloody shirt they waved during the Trump administration behind their back and don't want you to see something.
The DOD, Joint Chiefs, and Sec-Def lied to him about force levels.
The Media lambasted him for "What about all the blood!" as well as for negotiating with the Taliban, screaming "What about all the dead soldiers!" like they gave a fuck.
The Dems screamed and kicked and threw fits and refused to do it, calling him a traitor for wanting to end a war.
And all Biden did was pull the troops out, leave all the gear, had to be pressured by the International Community and the DOD to bring back the Afghani's who helped us, all so that he knows that they'll start pushing at Pakistan and will become a problem very quickly.
Normally I'd welcome a troop pullout, but I'm looking at this one very askance since they tried to BTFO Trump for wanting to pull out in an orderly transition and then had Biden just load everyone up on planes and leave billions of dollars of gear on the ground, beyond even the normal pullout leave-behind because it's cheaper bit.
Every time they screech about how Biden pulled out of Afghanistan, you need to look REAL close at what's going on, because they're hiding the bloody shirt they waved during the Trump administration behind their back and don't want you to see something.
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Isn't the Taliban pissed because Biden extended Trump's pull out date by a few months?
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I thought the generals lying to Trump was Syria.
You are not wrong (except for the Afgani translators; they got them out of Afghanistan but moved them to 3rd-party countries -primarily the *stans, Bangladesh, UAE (like they need any more terrorists), Some to Saudi (where they can live like serfs), some to Indonesia).
The pull out was a complete shitshow because Biden's Joint Chiefs did what they were supposed to do: Communicated to upper level Afghani brass. The orders never made it down. Now there's a double-pronged sword on this: Firstly, it was malicious compliance. These guys had been working with the Afghan brass long enough to know what was going to happen.
Even if the Afghani chain of command wasn't completely and totally fucked, no one in the Afghani brass was going to tell any one else because they don't trust the local commanders - usually with good reason.
Secondly, no one stopped the inevitable from happening because god forbid you give them warning and the Taliban-leading Afghani forces were sitting on a functioning MANPAAD and used it on a departing C130.
Don't swallow the lugenpress koolaid, but the US leaving was always going to be a cluster fuck. That was the only way it was going to go. The Brits and Russians left the same way. And I'm also going to point out that the media covering the complete clusters (but notice while shit got stolen it was all the civie shit; anything good was still under guards) is make you feel good about Biden getting us out of the terrible situation while also shitting on the military per normal.
You are not wrong (except for the Afgani translators; they got them out of Afghanistan but moved them to 3rd-party countries -primarily the *stans, Bangladesh, UAE (like they need any more terrorists), Some to Saudi (where they can live like serfs), some to Indonesia).
The pull out was a complete shitshow because Biden's Joint Chiefs did what they were supposed to do: Communicated to upper level Afghani brass. The orders never made it down. Now there's a double-pronged sword on this: Firstly, it was malicious compliance. These guys had been working with the Afghan brass long enough to know what was going to happen.
Even if the Afghani chain of command wasn't completely and totally fucked, no one in the Afghani brass was going to tell any one else because they don't trust the local commanders - usually with good reason.
Secondly, no one stopped the inevitable from happening because god forbid you give them warning and the Taliban-leading Afghani forces were sitting on a functioning MANPAAD and used it on a departing C130.
Don't swallow the lugenpress koolaid, but the US leaving was always going to be a cluster fuck. That was the only way it was going to go. The Brits and Russians left the same way. And I'm also going to point out that the media covering the complete clusters (but notice while shit got stolen it was all the civie shit; anything good was still under guards) is make you feel good about Biden getting us out of the terrible situation while also shitting on the military per normal.
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That is, unfortunately, not fully what happened. Trump was going to get us out, but it was deliberately slow-walked so that he could not get credit for it.
It's similar to how Trump was actively lied to about Syrian troop numbers. It's also similar to the entire vaccine situation, and the Tom Brady sudden reversal. A lot of things did not happen simply because many "people" (I hesitate to use a word ascribing humanity to slime) did not want Trump to be the one around when it did.
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This is true. I remember reading about this around May of 2001 around the same time the Taliban banned Cd-Rs due to thier concern for Western media being brought in. They received about 5 Million dollars iirc from the Bush adminstration for helping the War on Drugs by completely destroying the opium production, which after the invasion returned to HIGHER levels than pre-Taliban. It was the first time I had heard of these wacky Taliban.
4 months after we gave the money we invaded them. Hilarious.
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The Taliban didn't have a problem with boyfucking (or marrying underage girls), they had a problem with OTHER warlord crews doing the boyfucking.
I could have sworn that was Syria because Kurdish commies were apparently "too important" of an ally to abandon or something.
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Right, and when he did, everyone got mad because they got invaded by Ukrainians or something.
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The fear was that if we left, the Kurds in Syria would immediately be invaded and attacked by Turkey. Which, instead of being the fault of Turks for being bloodthirsty, is the fault of Trump/the US for leaving a place we were barely in to begin with.
I don't think the Afghanistan troop pullouts were talked about much.
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The only thing they have is the fact trump and putin were nice to eachother
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Putin knew he couldn't fuck with Trump, Trump was another Alpha Male. Notice Russia did jack fucking shit for escalation in Ukraine, Syria, or the Causcuses under Trump once their mercenary patrol got blown the fuck out and their airbase got blown up. He got along with Trump because they both spoke the same language.
Same reason he was able to get along so well with Kim Fat; not "hurr durr both are dictators!", they both spoke in the language of power, of acquiring and leveraging it, and dealing with detractors trying to take it from you, for themselves.
Dubya was also... Well, he was able to posture as an Alpha, and surrounded himself with Alphas and wasn't intimidated by them. He wasn't beta, he just didn't have any finesse. Notice Putin stuck to soft power to fuck with Dubya, like arms shipments to Venezuela and Iranian ship port calls, and paying lip service to the BRIC, a concept that got dropped as soon as Dubya was out.
Putin clocked Obama as a through-and-through bitchmade. That is why he infiltrated and seized Crimea.
Obama could have stopped that at any time by deploying a company of the 10th division to the Sevastopol naval base. They wouldn't even have needed to be armed, just the concept of his little green men causing an incident would've stopped Putin cold. But he did not because he was a bitchmade. Also probably taking foreign policy orders from Hildawg, who wanted to wrest Crimea back from Putin as her dick-waving move when she got the presidency she'd been promised after bowing down to Purpa Drank.
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Why did they make all the shit dumpy people brown when the rest of the people in the comic are white?
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"Disenfranchised" AKA Illegals and Felons.
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Nice to see they think saying "all lives matter" is a Nazi insensible slogan.
In their attempts to sound caring and progressive, they end up showing their true authoritarian colors. Many such cases, sad, et cetera.
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Trump's not a dictator, but he understood the finesse of conversing with dictators by means of levering power.
He certainly had enough political pull to manipulate American patriotism into eternal conflict in the Middle East for three decades.
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By that logic, any one who can think like a mass murdering psychopath is, in fact, an mass murdering psychopath. Damn them trying to converse with the broken! Clearly, you should never attempt to understand anything Unclean, lest your Faith and Innocence be irrevocably lost.
I get what you're getting at, but that slope's been lubed up since at least the dark ages. Tread on it carefully.
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Bold of them to assume the "disillusioned, uninterested and hate both candidates" category want any part of their faggotry.