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[mindlessobserver]

It's automatic with a woman marrying or divorcing.

If you want to change your name for some other reason--things like asshole at the DMV picked your married surname for you because he's an asshole, your parents made sure you know that they've always lothed you, or something as basic as a Thai woman who is immigrating with a first name like Pornpiss? It's harder, because people were changing their names to duck debts for a long time.

So the paperwork's a headache, and it can also make a difference in some jurisdictions if the name you're trying to get is the usual troon option from the lines of "Ebony Dark'ness Dementia Raven Way" or, well, something that looks like a perfectly normal name for babies born the year you were born.

All name changes require judicial review. It's not "automatic" for women marrying or divorcing. The expense and complications varies from State to State but everywhere the clerk of the court will see if there are any pending legal matters in your name before putting your application in front of the judge to sign.

The reason gender specials don't want to do this on their own is because to do it without a paid lawyer requires a Pro se presentation before the court. You go to the clerks office and have to tell the Clerk "hello, my legal name is Steve but I want it to be Sue". The clerk will then require you to present your documents. Birth certificate, picture ID, and then enter a change of name "trial" where the new name is the Plaintiff. Done so the public record can be searched. If there is no legal barrier a judge just signs off on it. If there is a legal barrier (like outstanding collections) the case for the name change can be escalated to a formal court room hearing.

That's how it works. And IMO the only reason a trans person would need a lawyer to act as agent for this is if A. They don't want to endure the embarrassment of saying "my name is Steve but should be sue", or B. they have serious legal barriers to a name change that would require a court room hearing.

 

[The Emperor Skeksis]

"Fucked up hot stuff"?

Bragging about the level of spice in your cooking is a total dude move.

Uuuuuuh mxtress Penny also used the word 'scrumptious' and that's a word only LADIES use, bigot.

In all seriousness, ogre Penny using that word feels so wrong

 

[The Rabbit Holes]

Skimmed this thread lightly.

Isn't Colorado also home to that black power micronation larp ranch too? I don't remember the name of it but I remember them boasting about buying a bunch of land to start a new nation for black people (and maybe natives?) only and I couldn't help but be reminded of that.

Colorado seems to be a haven for tards.

And the only thing most blacks hate more than white people are trannies so I'm sure a crossover between these two tard communes would be exciting.

my working theory is that all the weird ones got left when the rockies got crossed

idk. black power if its got enough women would be pretty ok with the tranchers who are literally white emasculated men. dont show them kevins social media tho.

I do actually wonder how much their grifting not working as well might be not because of the Tranchers being...their speshul selves...but due to the Wokeandians are starting to decide that troons as a group are no longer fashionable, and it is time to dump them in the trash in favor of whatever group has become the in-fashion accessories?

first it was the white fashion gays, then the caitlyn jenners and middle-aged troons. i predict we either see he/him lesbians or period-having/preganant tranbois next.

 

[The Rabbit Holes]

goddamn double browser windows

apology kevin mocking

 

[Rainbow Frog Army]

All name changes require judicial review. It's not "automatic" for women marrying or divorcing. The expense and complications varies from State to State but everywhere the clerk of the court will see if there are any pending legal matters in your name before putting your application in front of the judge to sign.

The reason gender specials don't want to do this on their own is because to do it without a paid lawyer requires a Pro se presentation before the court. You go to the clerks office and have to tell the Clerk "hello, my legal name is Steve but I want it to be Sue". [...]

That's how it works. And IMO the only reason a trans person would need a lawyer to act as agent for this is if A. They don't want to endure the embarrassment of saying "my name is Steve but should be sue", or B. they have serious legal barriers to a name change that would require a court room hearing.

You want to stick what I removed in the quote under a spoiler. It varies quite a bit depending on where you live--I know because one of the examples I mentioned is how I know my local version of the procedure, and it may be possible to ID your state or narrow it down just from what you described--and it is likely possible to narrow down what state you live in from that info.

But I'm not going to dispute that you shouldn't need a lawyer. There's handy-dandy guides out there, because it's not just trans people who need to do it, and I don't even have much sympathy for somebody who can't bring themselves to tell the court what their birth name is. If you're too embarrassed to tell the court your soon-to-be-ex legal name? Maybe you shouldn't do it.

Edit: I should be clearer--you shouldn't need a lawyer, because those guides will have been written by lawyers if you go through somewhere like NoLo or [State] Legal Aid, and they almost certainly got paid to write 'em. At most, you'd just need to pay a lawyer when needed to update the guide.

 

[Peter Piper]

Spoiler: Off-topic 3rd gender shit.

You're buying into TRA shit. Third gender stuff in other cultures was not an alternative gender, it was how they described gay dudes who sucked at hunting. It was derogatory, not something cool and mystical. They usually had to live away from everyone else other than when someone was fucking them. You can find very little about this anymore online because its been memory holed since the TRAs took it over.

If I remember correctly the term didn't even exist among natives in the Americas until 1990 where they went in and changed a word that more or less meant fag with it, then just pretended it had always been that way. There also were virtually no females who fell in this distinction because to most older cultures or traditional ones that exist now, lesbians just aren't real.

EDIT: It was replacing the word "berdache" and was done by Ojibwe at a conference in 1990. Thanks to @Ronnie Rocket who posted about it in the Tranny Sideshows Thread.

To paraphrase the "Cum Town" podcast, "Two spirit are not trans, they're just the dudes that were too pussy to stick their dick into a heap of fire ants or what ever rite of passage feather Indians use. When they pussied out, they were put to weave baskets with the bitches".

 

[ConsoleWarVet]

Skimmed this thread lightly.

Isn't Colorado also home to that black power micronation larp ranch too? I don't remember the name of it but I remember them boasting about buying a bunch of land to start a new nation for black people (and maybe natives?) only and I couldn't help but be reminded of that.

Colorado seems to be a haven for tards.

And the only thing most blacks hate more than white people are trannies so I'm sure a crossover between these two tard communes would be exciting.

Are you talking about that Black Hammer group that put out that dumb ass joker video? I thought they were in North Carolina or Georgia and already got kicked off the land because they were just squatting. I haven't checked on them in a while though.

Edit: their thread says Colorado, don't know where I got that from.

 

[Law]

"real" trans people also don't try to reject or bury their natal sex as if its offensive,

Then why do they change their names, pronouns, legal documents, and hormones? If I refered to one of these True and Honest transwomen as "he", would he chimp out? Or would he not mind cause he's not trying to bury his natal sex as if it's offensive and he knows there's nothing wrong with being a man?

The Tranch seems a cruel thing to do to even a glowie.

Even glowies need a laugh.

 

[behindyourightnow]

Then why do they change their names, pronouns, legal documents, and hormones?

In the past changing your name and living as the opposite sex for a set period of time was a requirement before you were allowed any sex-reassignment surgery.

As for why they would want hormones and surgery, who the hell knows? It's clearly some sort of mental illness (feeling like you are the wrong gender), but as someone else said, it's not the same type of mental illness we are mostly dealing with now (convinced that you are a woman because you feel like you are, and lashing out violently who disagrees).

If I refered to one of these True and Honest transwomen as "he", would he chimp out?

In my experience, no. The chimpout is almost exclusively a trait of post-Tumblr troonery.

Or would he not mind cause he's not trying to bury his natal sex as if it's offensive and he knows there's nothing wrong with being a man?

Up until recently it was pretty common for MtFs to admit they weren't really women and still had XY chromosomes that made them biologically males. There were probably always deluded ones, but it didn't become an overarching shared hallucination until recently. People forget that the TRA thought-leaders had to go on a major campaign in which they shunned or canceled every trans person who stepped out of line on the gender train by labeling them truscum (and despite winning that battle definitively, they still constantly write and seethe about the truscum)

 

[Rainbow Frog Army]

Then why do they change their names, pronouns, legal documents, and hormones? If I refered to one of these True and Honest transwomen as "he", would he chimp out? Or would he not mind cause he's not trying to bury his natal sex as if it's offensive and he knows there's nothing wrong with being a man?

From experience? No chimp outs.

Chimping out because somebody contradicts your view of reality is actually a signature of the delusional disorders, so I guess I do have some idea what's wrong with troons. It'd also mean that if there's gender dysphoria there, you're not going to know until the delusions are handled. Tiddy skittles are highly unlikely to do shit for that, though, despite some shrinks' belief that tiddy skittles and bottom surgery cure all mental health problems. (Do not mistake that as a joke, either, some do. Not explicitly, but behaviorally.)

 

[Lord of the Large Pants]

Autistic shower thought: Never have I seen a group of cows that I've more wanted to recreate as a Sims household just to see what happens.

 

[Law]

(feeling like you are the wrong gender)

(convinced that you are a woman because you feel like you are

I really don't see much of a difference between these two things. If a man is convinced he's a woman because of his internal feelings, then wouldn't he would be feeling like he's the wrong gender?

 

[KooksandFreaks]

Note, too, that I'm not saying 'real trans' aren't suffering from a mental illness. I'm just saying that their gender dysphoria actually exists...and they're doing something about it.

I’m curious about your thoughts on the legal rights of “real" trans women? Should they be treated as female in every sense of the word?

Welcomed into traditional female-only spaces? Be offered affirmative educational and employment opportunities reserved specifically for women? Allowed to participate in competitions meant for female athletes? Be addressed with female pronouns under threat of civil penalties? Must we change the definition of words like "woman" or "mother" in order to accommodate them?

Who gets to determine whether or not a natal male is authentically transgender? Mental health professionals? Kevin talks about his gender dysphoria all the time. If that’s the only criterion, doesn't that make him a genuine trans woman?

 

[Wallace]

To paraphrase the "Cum Town" podcast, "Two spirit are not trans, they're just the dudes that were too pussy to stick their dick into a heap of fire ants or what ever rite of passage feather Indians use. When they pussied out, they were put to weave baskets with the bitches".

A lot of modern troons are failed men too.

 

[White Devil]

Trans and "third gender" should be treated as the aberrations they are, not catered to.

 

[The Rabbit Holes]

3Then why do they change their names, pronouns, legal documents, and hormones? If I refered to one of these True and Honest transwomen as "he", would he chimp out? Or would he not mind cause he's not trying to bury his natal sex as if it's offensive and he knows there's nothing wrong with being a man?

Even glowies need a laugh.

for the name/gender shit- is the same reason asians change their names legally to americanized names. get hassled when you try to fly, buy a drink, enter a casino, you have to pull out medical papers etc. OR you just buck up, do the damn adult thing and legally change ur name.

hormones i compare to breast reduction. sure, it aint natural, but who am i to judge some double d women for wanting to avoid back pain down the line. if they come out looking like an abamanation, 9/10 times its because they have the issues of Kevin and the other troons here: denial of reality, sexual urges, and refusual to care for their bodies.

most real trans dont chimp out over a misgender, because they have that grasp on reality. like others said, thats pretty much a direct influence of tumblr and their 30yr old nb/otherkin/whatever the hell else cult.

I’m curious about your thoughts on the legal rights of “real" trans women? Should they be treated as female in every sense of the word?

Welcomed into traditional female-only spaces? Be offered affirmative educational and employment opportunities reserved specifically for women? Allowed to participate in competitions meant for female athletes? Be addressed with female pronouns under threat of civil penalties? Must we change the definition of words like "woman" or "mother" in order to accommodate them?

Who gets to determine whether or not a natal male is authentically transgender? Mental health professionals? Kevin talks about his gender dysphoria all the time. If that’s the only criterion, doesn't that make him a genuine trans woman?

barring people from participating in sports over weed and gender changes is dumb. barring people from sport because they use steriods or cocaine makes sense. natal women/men spaces should stay just for them just like "pocs" get theirs: if people wanna segregate themselves, let em!

yeah, mental health professionals are SUPPOSED To look at troons like kevin and go "sir, you are obesssed with women in a sexual manner, youre not a tranny" BUT they make more money in am$$$erika off letting people delude themselves. that or kevin and his ilk as shown in other tranny threads turn to quack docs who give addy heads their fixes.

 

[100pcent]

Trans and "third gender" should be treated as the aberrations they are, not catered to.

Nobody caters to them. People comply with their totalitarian rule over internet infrastructure for no other reason than they will be utterly crushed by opposing (((they/them)))

 

[Surfin Terf]

for the name/gender shit- is the same reason asians change their names legally to americanized names. get hassled when you try to fly, buy a drink, enter a casino, you have to pull out medical papers etc. OR you just buck up, do the damn adult thing and legally change ur name.

hormones i compare to breast reduction. sure, it aint natural, but who am i to judge some double d women for wanting to avoid back pain down the line. if they come out looking like an abamanation, 9/10 times its because they have the issues of Kevin and the other troons here: denial of reality, sexual urges, and refusual to care for their bodies.

most real trans dont chimp out over a misgender, because they have that grasp on reality. like others said, thats pretty much a direct influence of tumblr and their 30yr old nb/otherkin/whatever the hell else cult.




barring people from participating in sports over weed and gender changes is dumb. barring people from sport because they use steriods or cocaine makes sense. natal women/men spaces should stay just for them just like "pocs" get theirs: if people wanna segregate themselves, let em!

yeah, mental health professionals are SUPPOSED To look at troons like kevin and go "sir, you are obesssed with women in a sexual manner, youre not a tranny" BUT they make more money in am$$$erika off letting people delude themselves. that or kevin and his ilk as shown in other tranny threads turn to quack docs who give addy heads their fixes.

Asians don't usually legally change their names. If they're American-born they usually are just given Western names, but if they were born in Asia and have an Asian name then they usually just use a Western name as a nickname but their legal name is still Weining but they go by Bill in most cases and occasionally get some mail under their old name. It's not a big deal, and if trannies were normal people they could do the same thing. "Hey, Alice, you know a guy named 'Tim'? We got some mail for someone named Tim with your last name" "Oh, yeah, that was my name before I transitioned". But to hear TRA discourse that would be a hatecrime or some shit.

And cross-sex hormones are not just a harmless little thing with no side effects. It's fucking with a delicately balanced system in your body for no good reason.

Finally, TiMs aren't barred from participating in sports because of their gender changes. They can compete with the other men if they want; the problem is that they want to compete with the women. TiFs should be barred from competing if they are on T because that's a PED.

 

[KooksandFreaks]

barring people from participating in sports over weed and gender changes is dumb.

Do you mean that natal males who identify as women should be able to compete against female athletes?

 

[mindlessobserver]

Even glowies need a laugh.

That or office politics. "O'Reilly, you got a new assignment. It's deep cover. Now before I give you the dossier...do you remember that time you spilled coffee on the bosses new suit?"