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[Rainbow Frog Army]

As others have commented, the obvious traits associated with ToXiC MaScUliNitY the tranchers display is a real Catch 41 (%) for their fundraising (grifting) endeavours.

I actually wouldn't be surprised if a lot of troons are doing it for a license to display ToXiC MaScUlIniTy as...um...enthusiastically as the Tranchers do.

Can't be a good Wokeandian and show off your ToXiC MaScUlInItY with the enthusiasm the Tranchers do if you admit that you're a cisman. For some reason--don't ask me, they're probably ones that only make sense if you're a full-out tard--it is acceptable in Wokeandian circles for transwomen to do that.

There is a certain "Awww look at the poor widdle uwu [pet minority] who is incapable of doing anything bad, must have done it because of the ebil White cishet men!" involved on the Wokeandian side, and...people who take advantage of that are scum. Odds are pretty good that a lot of the abuse of animals the Tranchers get away with is from that weird belief; that should have been doing a lot more damage to their fundraising endeavours than it has.

 

[Humbert Humbert]

I have more tranch updates. PENNY decided to torture everyone with his burrito preparation process.

Spoiler: Long ass image

Spoiler: Full images

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More DenFur news.

Various other ranch and alpaca pic tweets too.

Spoiler: Full pics

 

[AprilRains]

"Fucked up hot stuff"?

Bragging about the level of spice in your cooking is a total dude move.

 

[behindyourightnow]

This is very close to how I feel. I think I'm in the minority on Kiwifarms in that I think there's True and Honest Trans. I sperged about third gender in the Jazz thread but

I am in agreement with you here too.

Spoiler: more tranny sperging

I think you can look at the 'third gender' phenomenon popping up independently in different cultures all over the world as evidence that whatever we are calling 'real trans' in this thread are a real thing. I don't know why they are a thing, but they have shown up pretty consistently over history (even if it has been in very small numbers)

I have trans people in my own life who I don't really think of as the gender they present as, but I don't exactly think about them as the gender they were born as, either. To me they are just who they are, and before the trans cult got big I never even thought to dwell on it because who the hell even cares that much? One of the reasons I peaked is that the TWAW cult seems incredibly regressive to me. Why should we insist that transwomen are women unless we are trying way too hard to enforce rigidity in gender roles?

Also I have a slight suspicion I know who you are talking about in the tranny sideshows thread but I will keep it to myself so I don't PL us both lol

 

[Taylor Swift's Ghostwrite]

I am in agreement with you here too.

Spoiler: more tranny sperging

I think you can look at the 'third gender' phenomenon popping up independently in different cultures all over the world as evidence that whatever we are calling 'real trans' in this thread are a real thing. I don't know why they are a thing, but they have shown up pretty consistently over history (even if it has been in very small numbers)

I have trans people in my own life who I don't really think of as the gender they present as, but I don't exactly think about them as the gender they were born as, either. To me they are just who they are, and before the trans cult got big I never even thought to dwell on it because who the hell even cares that much? One of the reasons I peaked is that the TWAW cult seems incredibly regressive to me. Why should we insist that transwomen are women unless we are trying way too hard to enforce rigidity in gender roles?

Also I have a slight suspicion I know who you are talking about in the tranny sideshows thread but I will keep it to myself so I don't PL us both lol

Spoiler: Off-topic 3rd gender shit.

You're buying into TRA shit. Third gender stuff in other cultures was not an alternative gender, it was how they described gay dudes who sucked at hunting. It was derogatory, not something cool and mystical. They usually had to live away from everyone else other than when someone was fucking them. You can find very little about this anymore online because its been memory holed since the TRAs took it over.

If I remember correctly the term didn't even exist among natives in the Americas until 1990 where they went in and changed a word that more or less meant fag with it, then just pretended it had always been that way. There also were virtually no females who fell in this distinction because to most older cultures or traditional ones that exist now, lesbians just aren't real.

EDIT: It was replacing the word "berdache" and was done by Ojibwe at a conference in 1990. Thanks to @Ronnie Rocket who posted about it in the Tranny Sideshows Thread.

 

[behindyourightnow]

Where did I say it wasn't derogatory? The point was they existed, even though there was no good reason for them to (who would choose to be part of a group like that?)

Helen Joyce's new book actually has a lot of stuff about them, although I haven't read much of it yet.

 

[P. Barnes' THOT]

There is too much fucking meat in that pan.

I thought he was using a Global knife, and I was gonna get MOTI about that since they’re nice knives and shouldn’t be used for cooking such garbage until I realized it’s a knock off. Much like how they’re cheap knockoffs of women.

God, they are stupid and gross

 

[A Grey Cat]

Pennywise is fat and i would not have sex with him....yes i mean both the clown and the troon running the monkey farm that the tranch is

 

[Surfin Terf]

Where did I say it wasn't derogatory? The point was they existed, even though there was no good reason for them to (who would choose to be part of a group like that?)

Helen Joyce's new book actually has a lot of stuff about them, although I haven't read much of it yet.

So, I kind of don't want to derail this thread with autistic debate about "third gender" shit, but at this point I think it's too late for that. So I'm just going to share my own opinion about gender and "third gender" stuff. While my name is generally an inaccurate joke, in this case it describes my opinion on the matter somewhat accurately.

Spoiler: 🧩

Gender are social classes based on sex. We have social classes that correlate with sex but aren't genders e.g. soldiers and nurses. But at the same time, these sex-based social classes intersect with society's expectations and responsibilities, the male gender can either be a boy or a man and the female gender can either be a girl or a woman. And in English we don't really have a clear and concise way to describe these things and this leaves room for ambiguity that leads to these ideas of third (or fourth) genders and nonbinary stuff.

In modern nations we tend to have a legally defined line at which boy becomes man or girl becomes woman. But a more common way for a society to define this transition is that the boy or girl must have some sort of accomplishment (and even in modern nations we still use these definitions to a degree). Menarche, marriage, bar/bat mitzvahs, etcetera etcetera. But when a male doesn't kill a lion by the time he turns 45 it's not feasible to still classify him as a boy even if he hasn't carried out the ritual to become a man. Some societies just do a societal equivalent of social promotion and say, "you are a full-grown man (even though you're not a real man)". But others might try to be a little more strict in their classifications and since this person is clearly not a boy or a man and he's not a girl or a woman, he must belong to some third category, it's not really a gender... it's either a subcategory of an existing gender (like man and boy are subcategories of the male gender) or it's not a gender at all, but the English language doesn't really have a clear and concise way to describe these things so we call it a third gender.

And even though modern society technically says that you're a man or a woman at 18 (or whatever it is where you live) it's also often expected that a man has sex with a woman and a woman and has a job and takes care of a family and a male who doesn't do those things might feel that he isn't really a man and society might reenforce that idea.

 

[contradiction of terns]

It was actually a different thread (the Tranny Sideshows one) which I guess makes it less likely. It's just weird to see it come up so soon after when it's such an unusual topic, and even using similar phrasing. I suppose an alternate explanation is that he has had voice feminization lessons (I don't know the real name for those) and was taught about the subject there.

If he did pick it up from the thread, he seems to have interpreted it as something all women do, rather than a relatively rare thing that is mostly done as part of professional vocal training?

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He says "You know, like, from my chest" as if it's something the average female reader would understand. Is it? Honest question, does anyone who hasn't done voice training think about resonance in their chest or where their voice is coming from?

Honestly, I feel a little violated at the idea that he might have read about my individual experience and then absorbed it into his Borg understanding of what being female is.

They give you the 'from the diaphragm' advice in the military for cadence calling, which is effectively a form of singing. It's offered as unisex advice because the entire point is to be as loud as humanly possible while still keeping your voice deep/low enough to understand the words you're singing/saying. In truth, most of the guys don't need the advice and all the women do, but it's the military so they can't say that.

Doesn't one of them have prior military service? I forget (and forget which one it is if they do).

Also, plz don't feel violated. If you start feeling that way, I highly recommend to close out one of your posts with the 'You will never be a woman' reminder. Make THEM feel violated instead.

 

[A Grey Cat]

Paul "Bonnie" Mendoza is actually Latino. His father, Luis Mendoza, was a pedophile (info is on page 839 of the Kevin thread).

Swank! my most diabolical creation! 10 times more addictive than Marijunna!

MENDOZZAAAAAAAAAAAA!

 

[Dumb Bitch Smoothie]

Skimmed this thread lightly.

Isn't Colorado also home to that black power micronation larp ranch too? I don't remember the name of it but I remember them boasting about buying a bunch of land to start a new nation for black people (and maybe natives?) only and I couldn't help but be reminded of that.

Colorado seems to be a haven for tards.

And the only thing most blacks hate more than white people are trannies so I'm sure a crossover between these two tard communes would be exciting.

 

[Sexy Senior Citizen]

"Fucked up hot stuff"?

Bragging about the level of spice in your cooking is a total dude move.

I'm more astonished at the amount of ingredients used per meal. A whole block of cheese? Why not just buy a bag of pre-shredded stuff and save yourself a step?

With the amount they spend on food for themselves (never mind the alpacas), you'd think they'd cut back on buying the tacticool gear. But then, these are men who think they're women, so clearly they're not playing with a full deck.

And they have yet to clean the stove.

 

[Dickens Cider]

Not to defend them in ANY way but block cheese is cheaper. At least when you aren’t using the entire fucking thing in one meal as they are probably doing. So I suppose it’s negligible savings.

 

[Big moth tiddies]

Why not just buy a bag of pre-shredded stuff and save yourself a step?

Some people I suggest this to go absolutely nuts. They either claim that you get less cheese that way, or that it's worse somehow.

But then, these are men who think they're women, so clearly they're not playing with a full deck.

The chief problem with troons in general is that they want to be uwu smol bean delicate flowers, but they never seem to realize that they never stopped acting like dudes. They might put on an affectation or coo at a cute thing, but in the end they always show their hand and do things only men do.
They're either marking out over guns, comparing how deep their stinkditch is to others, or some other man thing they let slip.

 

[Rainbow Frog Army]

So, I kind of don't want to derail this thread with autistic debate about "third gender" shit, but at this point I think it's too late for that. So I'm just going to share my own opinion about gender and "third gender" stuff. While my name is generally an inaccurate joke, in this case it describes my opinion on the matter somewhat accurately.

Spoiler: 🧩

Gender are social classes based on sex. We have social classes that correlate with sex but aren't genders e.g. soldiers and nurses. But at the same time, these sex-based social classes intersect with society's expectations and responsibilities, the male gender can either be a boy or a man and the female gender can either be a girl or a woman. And in English we don't really have a clear and concise way to describe these things and this leaves room for ambiguity that leads to these ideas of third (or fourth) genders and nonbinary stuff.

In modern nations we tend to have a legally defined line at which boy becomes man or girl becomes woman. But a more common way for a society to define this transition is that the boy or girl must have some sort of accomplishment (and even in modern nations we still use these definitions to a degree). Menarche, marriage, bar/bat mitzvahs, etcetera etcetera. But when a male doesn't kill a lion by the time he turns 45 it's not feasible to still classify him as a boy even if he hasn't carried out the ritual to become a man. Some societies just do a societal equivalent of social promotion and say, "you are a full-grown man (even though you're not a real man)". But others might try to be a little more strict in their classifications and since this person is clearly not a boy or a man and he's not a girl or a woman, he must belong to some third category, it's not really a gender... it's either a subcategory of an existing gender (like man and boy are subcategories of the male gender) or it's not a gender at all, but the English language doesn't really have a clear and concise way to describe these things so we call it a third gender.

And even though modern society technically says that you're a man or a woman at 18 (or whatever it is where you live) it's also often expected that a man has sex with a woman and a woman and has a job and takes care of a family and a male who doesn't do those things might feel that he isn't really a man and society might reenforce that idea.

What tends to support that is that the trooncult doesn't much talk about the traditionally-a-biological-woman third genders...

The one of those I've been following (product of what's available in languages I read) I suspect has been wiped out by COVID because, well, most of the sworn virgins left were old. Feminism came to where they live, and why the fuck become a third gender when you can go out and get a job and own property (and have your own money!) without becoming a pseudo-man? Especially if that status means you don't get to have sex?

That's actually why it seems like third genders are actually a product of narrower social roles: They're people who got pushed out of the standard two, and that is what happens when your social categories for people narrow. It's pretty much the social version of One Size Fits None for gender roles, and you get the same problem of people who end up on the 'outside' because the change in how social roles are defined left them out in the cold.

It'd be like if you were to suddenly redefine 'nurse' as a group as 'always natal women'--the men who are nurses aren't just going to disappear in a puff of smoke and glitter.

(Keep in mind that troon lists of third genders are seriously ridden with your usual troon bigotry, ignorance, and agenda. Most lists include a few groups where it's purely a social role--cross-dressing simply is part of the job--or...well...the local versions of things like twinks or butch lesbians.)

But with the Tranchers? They're not third gender, and they're part of what's causing the narrowing of what is allowed for a 'woman' right now. The only people who seem to actually like troons are troons and Wokeandians, and the latter seem to mostly like troons because currently they are the fashionable pet minority.

I do actually wonder how much their grifting not working as well might be not because of the Tranchers being...their speshul selves...but due to the Wokeandians are starting to decide that troons as a group are no longer fashionable, and it is time to dump them in the trash in favor of whatever group has become the in-fashion accessories?

 

[Kiwi Lime Pie]

Name Change Project? This triggered my interests in law so I dug into it a little. Apparently there is an entire non-profit grift out there to help Trans people hire lawyers to act as legal agents for a fucking name change just so they don't have to go through the "trauma" of doing it themselves. Jfk.

I believe TransLifeLine (of all places, and through their microgrants program) and others will help transgendered people change their name when and where red tape keeps the process from going smoothly.

There is a need for this kind of service for those people who truly want a name and identity that presents themselves as the opposite gender. As for those who simply want to LARP, they deserve to fend for themselves.

Bets on them actually following through and releasing their forms properly?

TLL usually files their forms on time, albeit after filing for extensions, because there are penalties for filing tax returns late. If the Tranch files its return timely with or without an extension, it will be interesting to see what's all on the first 990-series return. (990 is the form number for nonprofit tax returns).

We'll also have to see if this nonprofit is on a calendar or fiscal year.
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I still have yet to catch up on the latest drama, but here are some thoughts regarding the whole LLC/nonprofit/trust thing.

While it's possible for someone or an entity to have all of those at the same time, they need to be created and maintained by competent people and professionals. With such professionals charging a decent amount for these services, I'm not confident the Tranchers can have all three of those entities at once and not screw something up. It's very easy to do accidentally let alone intentionally or through indifference. In addition to tax returns, there's often additional paperwork that has to be maintained and kept on file in order for the entities to remain recognized in good standing.

Also, there's the issue of sales taxes for online sales if they're still doing that on a significant scale. This has become more of a big deal now that states can impose their sales taxes on out of state vendors selling to people within their state (e.g. Tranchers in Colorado selling to someone in Illinois). Some states use a dollar amount threshold, others use the total number of transactions involving that state, and some may use a combination. It's complicated enough that one almost needs to consult a competent tax pro to help navigate through the tangled web of multi-jurisdictional sales tax law.

The biggest issue I see for the Tranchers is commingling of funds. Often, this means mixing business and personal expenses by paying them through the same account. In this case, though, it's both easy and tempting to pay a non-profit expense through the LLC or vice versa even though it could create huge issues if the books or a tax return were ever to be examined (aka audited). My late boss once told the story of a former client that found this out the hard way.

I'm also curious to know how the LLC is set up for tax purposes. If multiple people will have the income flow through to their tax returns, it will have to be treated as partnership or corporation -- both of which have particular rules when it comes to partners/shareholders receiving money from the entity or taking out money for personal use.

TL;DR - Such a setup could work if done with competent professionals and people who have some idea of what they're doing in terms of management and bookkeeping. One mistake, whether intentional or accidental, can cause a shitload of problems from regulatory bodies such as the IRS or state treasury (or its equivalent in Colorado).
E: Spelling/clarity

 

[mindlessobserver]

I believe TransLifeLine (of all places, and through their microgrants program) and others will help transgendered people change their name when and where's there's red tape that needs to be cut.

There is a need for this for those people who truly want a name and identity that presents themselves as the opposite gender. As for those who simply want to LARP, they deserve to fend for themselves.

Going to push back here. Legal name change is a very straight foreword procedure. Actual women have to do it all the time when they marry or divorce. There is no red tape to cut.

 

[Humbert Humbert]

Pennywise is fat and i would not have sex with him....yes i mean both the clown and the troon running the monkey farm that the tranch is

they’re BOTH clowns

 

[Rainbow Frog Army]

Going to push back here. Legal name change is a very straight foreword procedure. Actual women have to do it all the time when they marry or divorce. There is no red tape to cut.

It's automatic with a woman marrying or divorcing.

If you want to change your name for some other reason--things like asshole at the DMV picked your married surname for you because he's an asshole, your parents made sure you know that they've always lothed you, or something as basic as a Thai woman who is immigrating with a first name like Pornpiss? It's harder, because people were changing their names to duck debts for a long time.

So the paperwork's a headache, and it can also make a difference in some jurisdictions if the name you're trying to get is the usual troon option from the lines of "Ebony Dark'ness Dementia Raven Way" or, well, something that looks like a perfectly normal name for babies born the year you were born.