Culture Low Pay, No Benefits, Rude Customers: Restaurant Workers Quit At Record Rate - Average wages for nonmanagers at restaurants and bars hit $15 an hour in May, but many say no amount of pay would get them to return. They are leaving at the highest rate in decades

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Lamar Cornett has worked in restaurants for more than 20 years. During the pandemic, he began thinking about leaving that career behind.

A wooden spoon gliding over cast iron. Barely tall enough to see over the stove, Lamar Cornett watched his mother, a cook, make his favorite dish of scrambled eggs.

That first cooking lesson launched a lifelong journey in food. Cornett has spent over 20 years in Kentucky restaurants, doing every job short of being the owner. The work is grueling and tense but rewarding and rowdy, and so fast-paced that the pandemic shutdown was like lightning on a cloudy day.

"It was almost like there was this unplanned, unorganized general strike," Cornett said.

In those rare quiet moments, millions of restaurant workers like Cornett found themselves thinking about the realities of their work. Breaks barely long enough to use the restroom or smoke a cigarette. Meals inhaled on the go. Hostile bosses, crazy schedules and paltry, stagnant pay.

To top it off: rude customers, whose abuses restaurant staff are often forced to tolerate. And lately, testy diners have only gotten more impatient as they emerge from the pandemic shutdowns.

Cornett, off work for a few weeks, realized he received enough money through unemployment benefits to start saving — for the first time. He wondered if the work he loves would ever entail a job that came with health insurance or paid leave.

"I was working what I decided was going to be my last kitchen job," Cornett said.

As he pondered a new career path, an exodus began rattling his industry. Workers have been leaving jobs in restaurants, bars and hotels at the highest rate in decades. Each month so far this year, around 5% of this massive workforce have called it quits. In May alone, that was 706,000 people.

And now "help wanted" signs are everywhere, with a staggering 1.2 million jobs unfilled in the industry, right when customers are crushing through the doors, ready to eat, drink and finally socialize.

"They're just yelling the entire time"

Low wages are the most common reason people cite for leaving food service work. But in one recent survey, more than half of hospitality workers who've quit said no amount of pay would get them to return.

That's because for many, leaving food service had a lot to do also with its high-stress culture: exhausting work, unreliable hours, no benefits and so many rude customers.

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"I never want to do something like this again," said Marcus Brotherns, who spent two years serving coffee and doughnuts at a drive-through in Rhode Island. During the busiest hours, customers would storm inside to complain about the wrong amount of creamer or sugar.

"They're just yelling the entire time," he said. Brotherns got a new job delivering beverages to restaurants, work that's tough but quieter and better-paying with more stable hours. "I am done with fast food."

Tensions escalated over the pandemic, when many low-wage workers at stores and restaurants found themselves forced to be the enforcers of mask-wearing mandates, facing harassment and physical attacks.

Now, as many eateries are short-handed and hurriedly train new staff, negative reviews and complaints are on the rise from impatient, oblivious diners. One restaurant in Massachusetts even closed for a "Day of Kindness" after angry customers drove servers to tears.

Average pay finally topped $15 in May

After they reopened, many food establishments suddenly faced a surge of visitors. Despite hiring like crazy, they found themselves operating with skeleton crews and had to reduce their hours.

"We used to be known as a late-night restaurant. ... We can't do that anymore. I don't have the staff and people are exhausted," said Laurie Torres, whose Ohio restaurant now closes earlier and stays closed on Mondays. She said she's been paying her staff bonuses and offered $17 an hour for a dishwasher job, and even then three workers stood her up.

In fact, for the first time on record, average hourly pay for nonmanagers at restaurants and bars topped $15 in May.

Major chains have been trumpeting higher wages: Chipotle, Olive Garden, White Castle, even McDonald's, which is now promising entry-level pay between $11 and $17 an hour. Employers are paying people just to show up for interviews, adding signing bonuses and recruiting ever-younger workers on TikTok.

"Every manager acted like they were urgently hiring, it was kind of weird. Like, their big focus was: When can you start?" said Sterling Baumgardner, who at 17 is a minor in Ohio. He recently quit his job at Dunkin' Donuts and got immediately hired at a sandwich chain making about $12.50 an hour, $3 more than before.

If you can't pay well, "then you can't afford to be in business"

Food service jobs have been "plagued with low wages for an extraordinary long period of time," said Jeannette Wicks-Lim, labor economist at the University of Massachusetts, Amherst. Pay was eking up before the pandemic but then fell again, and so now, she said, workers are just barely making up lost ground. Wages might be jumping fast, but not very high.

Cornett, the lifelong restaurant worker from Kentucky, has watched the wage issue get tense on his local food service Facebook group. Any job posting below $15 an hour would get jeers and demands for higher pay. Then the employers would get defensive, saying they couldn't afford big raises.

"The immediate response every time was: 'Then you can't afford to be in business, bro,' " Cornett said.

He was planning to hang up his apron and began looking at jobs at warehouses and factories when he got an offer he couldn't turn down — from someone who could afford to be in business while paying him better. He's now a chef at a new brewery in Louisville.

"This is the first time I've ever been on a salary," Cornett said. "This is the first time I've been able to depend on getting a specific amount of money every pay period."

That amount is $30,000 a year — which isn't a lot, he admits. But it's "life-changing" compared with his long career earning $22,000 or $23,000 a year.

It's also the first time he's had only one boss, whom he likes. And the first time — finally — that he's had a job that offers health insurance.



I say good for them.
 
Having worked in the service industry, customers are rude, entitled, and act like complete douchebags.

It crosses generational lines too. Boomers are just as fucking obnoxious as Gen-Y.

You couldn't pay me enough to go back to my old service job. Holy shit, people were what made me hate people and damn near racist as fuck.

People say you can tell a date's personality by how they treat servers, bartenders, waiters and waitresses, and they aren't kidding.
 
The service industry is garbage. I'm stuck in my service job until I finish college but after that I'm looking for something else. I don't know what it is about the service industry, whether it's restaurants, or grocery stores, or whatever, but so many of the customers are just assholes.
 
"plagued with low wages for an extraordinary long period of time
Because it's unskilled work you can adequately train someone to do within about 4 hours. It has a high turnover rate and most people leave it for better paying, more consistent, more beneficial, or more satisfying work. It's not supposed to be a career.

If you think slapping burgers together or washing dishes is worth the same amount of money as skilled labor...what the actual fuck, dude.
 
Seems that one good thing to come out of the pandemic and lock-downs was that it forced people to reevaluate their lives. People have some greater sense of what is and isn't worth their time and effort. I hope those who are tired of the food and service sectors can find an opportunity greater than grum work and minimum wage bullshit.

People always complain about how low minimum wage is, but ideally there should just be more valuable skill-based work that pays better.
 
Haha, adjusted for the Consumer Price Index. Adjusted for real inflation wages have been plummeting in the last ten years.
 
If you think slapping burgers together or washing dishes is worth the same amount of money as skilled labor...what the actual fuck, dude.
I don't think anyone worth listening to believes that they should be making as much as a welder or something, but for all the shit they're expected to put up with they should be paid more than ~$20,000 a year.
 
The article glossed over the hostile workplace point. Sometimes the rude customers can be tolerated if you know the boss has your back, but the moment everyone from all sides start feeding you shit, then your loyalty dissipates pretty quickly.
 
I don't think anyone worth listening to believes that they should be making as much as a welder or something, but for all the shit they're expected to put up with they should be paid more than ~$20,000 a year.
you get the drinks, food and the order. hopefully properly.

I noticed a lot of restaurants these days don't have pads of paper to write shit down, and the orders come back always wrong, either the order wasn't place or it was placed, charged and didn't come out.

The low wage thing is iffy because it's tipped and the company covers any amount to the minimum. So either the workers suck and don't deserve tips or their customers suck and don't tip.
 
And with the shortage of workers its getting even worse, I have a buddy that works as a cook and the stories he tells me are horrifying, managers are so desperate that they're currently being held hostage by shitty workers. Just showing up will land you a job, you can be lazy, dirty, and constantly screw up and you won't get fired. This puts extra work and stress on the few workers that do care, and now those workers have started quitting because their complaints about how someone isn't doing any work are brushed off with a "we can't find anyone else". That then makes more work for the other good workers causing a positive feedback loop where they quit and repeat.

DO NOT eat any fast food or at any restaurants right now unless you personally know or trust who is working, the bar has never been lower and I don't trust my health with the bottom of the barrel workers they can find.
 
Forget 15 an hour, just end this "customer is always right" bullshit where throwing a temper tantrum in public gets you free shit. We've trained Americans to be squalling brats and now we're a nation of insufferable cunts.
 
Allow me to give an unique point of view as a pizzaria owner.

Yeah, its true. My employees havent quit yet because business is still working pretty well and thus their payment are decent. We usually workout specific payments behind the scenes beyond the simple wages but we do make sure that they know to lift their weight. Im working alongside them through the tough shifts so I dont have this "disconnection", most business owners seem to have with their employees.

But if inflation could, you know, stop...that would be great.
 
But if inflation could, you know, stop...that would be great.
Don't be ridiculous. Have you read all of those lovely news articles saying how wonderful non-stop inflation is? How can you hate Biden's recovering economy? We're all riding the inflation train like a furry who won the lottery, my friend.
 
I noticed a lot of restaurants these days don't have pads of paper to write shit down, and the orders come back always wrong, either the order wasn't place or it was placed, charged and didn't come out.
No fucking kidding.

I ordered Burger King from DoorDash once. I ordered a chicken sandwich meal with bacon and lettuce and a Dr. Pepper. What the fuck did I get? 2 cheeseburgers, and no fries. I mean, granted, it might have been a busy evening, and at least they got the drink correct, but still, how do you fuck up an order that badly? They tried calling the store, but got no response, so they just gave me a refund instead. It'd be one thing if the chicken sandwich shipped, but with no bacon, but to not even get the thing you asked for and no fries?! I usually am very lenient towards fast food workers because of some of the stuff mentioned above, but WOW. You literally have to be trying to fuck up an order that hard.
 
Don't be ridiculous. Have you read all of those lovely news articles saying how wonderful non-stop inflation is? How can you hate Biden's recovering economy? We're all riding the inflation train like a furry who won the lottery, my friend.

At least the mean tweets are gone, AM I RIGHT? :woo:
 

If you can't pay well, "then you can't afford to be in business"

Food service jobs have been "plagued with low wages for an extraordinary long period of time," said Jeannette Wicks-Lim, labor economist at the University of Massachusetts, Amherst. Pay was eking up before the pandemic but then fell again, and so now, she said, workers are just barely making up lost ground. Wages might be jumping fast, but not very high.

Cornett, the lifelong restaurant worker from Kentucky, has watched the wage issue get tense on his local food service Facebook group. Any job posting below $15 an hour would get jeers and demands for higher pay. Then the employers would get defensive, saying they couldn't afford big raises.

"The immediate response every time was: 'Then you can't afford to be in business, bro,' " Cornett said.
I hate this retort because it's clearly entitled and $15/hr is a pretty arbitrary rate that's been memed up by people who probably wouldn't have the sense to make $25/hr work out, but at its most fundamental level, it's understandable and is a free market at work. The issue isn't so much "you can't afford to be in business", it's "you can't afford me". The individual has chosen to price their labor at however much, and it's up to the company to determine whether they can justify such a cost given their appraisal of the worker. But the prospective worker may see better offers elsewhere and thus the company has to compete with those other companies for a given worker or alternatively justify not doing so.

The problem I can see, in part, is that the U.S. allows restaurants to subsidize their hourly cost with the tips a worker makes because of how precarious the industry is in the first place-- and even before COVID and the ensuing lockdowns tanked the industry, restaurants would still struggle and go under even while taking advantage of this privilege. Fair enough, in the grand scheme, businesses that can't compete fail and businesses that may have a better chance take their place unless they're banks in which case the government gives them a $700 billion handie but I can't help but feel bad for emerging restaurants who had the game flipped on them so quickly.
 
But in one recent survey, more than half of hospitality workers who've quit said no amount of pay would get them to return.

That's because for many, leaving food service had a lot to do also with its high-stress culture: exhausting work, unreliable hours, no benefits and so many rude customers.
If managers weren't afraid to throw out shit customers, workers would probably have fewer complaints.

I made decent money in the 'service' industry (since I could do pretty much everything front and back of house and could be trusted with cash), but there is nothing worse than being sent out to face the public with no backup from your manager, or worse, that if you're forced to make a decision, the manager will cut your nuts off from behind your back (especially prevalent in corporate food service) so they don't have to pushback against a hostile customer or own a mistake on their part.

On the opposite side, a lot of these fucking workers, especially in fast food/concessions are lazy, stupid, untrustworthy, or worse, kids, and you damn near have to stand over their backs with a whip to get any work out of them.
He was planning to hang up his apron and began looking at jobs at warehouses and factories when he got an offer he couldn't turn down — from someone who could afford to be in business while paying him better. He's now a chef at a new brewery in Louisville.

"This is the first time I've ever been on a salary," Cornett said. "This is the first time I've been able to depend on getting a specific amount of money every pay period."

That amount is $30,000 a year — which isn't a lot, he admits. But it's "life-changing" compared with his long career earning $22,000 or $23,000 a year.
LOL you retarded niggo. If you're a 'chef' on salary, then you're going to be there AT LEAST 60 hours/week. You end up making less than $10/hour. But let's say you're a piker and you're only doing 40/week. You're still making less than MUH HECKIN' FIGHT FOR $15/HR.

Again, why I'm not in that business anymore. I don't even like working with stupid people.
 
No fucking kidding.

I ordered Burger King from DoorDash once. I ordered a chicken sandwich meal with bacon and lettuce and a Dr. Pepper. What the fuck did I get? 2 cheeseburgers, and no fries. I mean, granted, it might have been a busy evening, and at least they got the drink correct, but still, how do you fuck up an order that badly? They tried calling the store, but got no response, so they just gave me a refund instead. It'd be one thing if the chicken sandwich shipped, but with no bacon, but to not even get the thing you asked for and no fries?! I usually am very lenient towards fast food workers because of some of the stuff mentioned above, but WOW. You literally have to be trying to fuck up an order that hard.
Sounds like the Dasher fucked up and didn't bother double-checking your order with Burger King employees. From what I hear (haven't done this job myself), if the Dasher isn't allowed to use their Red Card, they have to pay out of pocket and then get reimbursement from Door Dash.
 
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