Disaster Raw sewage from Chinese fishing vessels is killing South China Sea coral reefs and can be seen from space, claims US firm

US alarm at Chinese boats’ sewage in South China Sea

Discharged effluent can be seen from space, claims US firm Simularity, which has been monitoring more than 200 Chinese fishing vessels anchored near the Spratly Islands.

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• Effluent is visible from satellite images, says US firm Simularity, echoing ex-US navy captain’s warning that 2,000 tonnes of waste are discharged monthly
• The company has been monitoring more than 200 Chinese fishing vessels anchored for months in Philippine-claimed waters near the Spratly Islands

Satellite images show hundreds of Chinese fishing vessels anchored in disputed areas of the South China Sea are damaging coral reefs and sensitive marine ecosystems by pumping out tonnes of raw sewage, an American firm has claimed.
“When the ships don’t move, the poop piles up,” said Liz Derr, the CEO of Simularity, a firm that specialises in analysing satellite imagery and has been monitoring more than 200 Chinese fishing vessels anchored for months in Philippine-claimed waters near the Spratly Islands.

 

[SITHRAK!]

China is raping the the oceans in unprecedented ways at unprecedented levels. They don't even keep it to their half of the world, they will go right up to the border of national and international waters and pollute and overfish to absurd degrees.

And don’t forget that leaving food unfinished or untouched in a restaurant is a sign of status and prestige in Chinese ‘culture’.
Xi launched the ‘clean plate’ campaign around a year ago to tackle the annual 30 million pounds plus of food waste from restaurants in China.
They have basically ‘clearfelled’ the South China Sea and big chunks of many other oceans (especially the Pacific) in order to have food to throw away.
They are disgusting, vile, soulless rats with all the compassion and forethought of a tree shredder. When war comes with China, it’ll be because an ecological collapse robs them of their ability to feed their teeming hordes of worthless subhumans.

 

[SITHRAK!]

Joe Biden's pretty open about his feelings about China, so it's okay to talk about again.

Whoever said money can’t buy love hasn’t looked into Leg Hair Joe’s affairs with shadowy Chinese (government) businesses.

 

[Lonely semen]

Better get Jackie Chan to help em kick that habit.

 

[More AWS-8Q Than You]

You're looking at a symptom rather than the core problem.

Pretty sure designated shitting streets are a core problem.

 

[Dustlord]

Pretty sure designated shitting streets are a core problem.

Okay, so for no reason at all, shithole third world countries had a huge population explosion beyond their means.
Pure magic. Its not economic, there aren't people who encouraged this because they profit greatly despite the negative consequences.

Got it.

 

[More AWS-8Q Than You]

Okay, so for no reason at all, shithole third world countries had a huge population explosion beyond their means.
Pure magic.

Got it.

Are you going to argue that the Jews are responsible for the increase in population in India and also for their failure to use modern plumbing because of the fear of toilet witches? The state of the Ganges is the fault of Jews?

 

[Dustlord]

Are you going to argue that the Jews are responsible for increase in population in India and also for their failure to use modern plumbing because of the fear of toilet witches? The state of the Ganges is the fault of Jews?

I'll take the bait here.
1. Global capitalism is objectively responsible for the population explosion in countries like China and India.
2. Toilet witches aren't a thing, but even if they were, it wouldn't matter if India wasn't being used as one of the world's manufacturing hubs. Plenty of African countries are just as bad about street shitting, but they have a lower population and thus a lower environmental impact. When India hits the upper limits of the cheap labor it can provide, you can bet that Nigeria will be the new India.
3. The state of the ganges is caused by two things. The aforementioned population explosion, and pollution from factories. Both are a result of global capital desiring cheap labor.
I say "Jews" as a shorthand to be edgy and because its simpler, but my point remains.

Sit at home seething about Indians shitting in the street if it makes you feel better, but these are complex and multi faceted issues.

 

[More AWS-8Q Than You]

I'll take the bait here.
1. Global capitalism is objectively responsible for the population explosion in countries like China and India.
2. Toilet witches aren't a thing, but even if they were, it wouldn't matter if India wasn't being used as one of the world's manufacturing hubs. Plenty of African countries are just as bad about street shitting, but they have a lower population and thus a lower environmental impact. When India hits the upper limits of the cheap labor it can provide, you can bet that Nigeria will be the new India.
3. The state of the ganges is caused by two things. The aforementioned population explosion, and pollution from factories. Both are a result of global capital desiring cheap labor.

Sit at home seething about Indians shitting in the street if it makes you feel better, but these are complex and multi faceted issues.

It's not bait. The funny thing about this is that it's just India. Global Capitalism and Jews haven't led to massive run off of shit off the coasts of Africa or China, just India. The Ganges is shitty because they bathe in it, shit in it, dump trash in it, dump corpses in it, they always have. Some how, despite being the hub of modern manufacturing and waste, even the Chinese haven't literally shit up their coastal waters. Sometimes it's not the Jews, sometimes a culture is just shitty.

Do you know Indians have murdered government workers who tried to make them use toilets? That's global capitalism's fault too, right?

 

[Dustlord]

It's not bait. The funny thing about this is that it's just India. Global Capitalism and Jews haven't led to massive run off of shit off the coasts of Africa or China, just India. The Ganges is shitty because they bathe in it, shit in it, dump trash in it, dump corpses in it, they always have. Some how, despite being the hub of modern manufacturing and waste, even the Chinese haven't literally shit up their coastal waters. Sometimes it's not the Jews, sometimes a culture is just shitty.

Do you know Indians have murdered government workers who tried to make them use toilets? That's global capitalism's fault too, right?

Again, without the population explosion, their culture wouldn't matter on a global scale. Africa is just as bad, but every African country has a much lower population density than India.
Since you need it spelled out to you, 10 people shitting in a river produces less waste than 1000.

I'm not defending India or its culture. That's not the main issue here. Its a side effect.

 

[More AWS-8Q Than You]

Again, without the population explosion, their culture wouldn't matter on a global scale. Africa is just as bad, but every African country has a much lower population density than India.
Since you need it spelled out to you, 10 people shitting in a river produces less waste than 1000.

No shit, but not even China, which has a similar population, manages that. My issue is, you sound like you want to blame the shit, wasteful, massively polluting cultures of India and China on "Global Capitalism" and maybe even the Jews. Instead of India and China, both of which have pretentions of being world powers. It's everyone else's fault but theirs? They have no responsibility for their own actions? Just Global Capitalism?

 

[Dojima's Dragon]

I'll take the bait here.
1. Global capitalism is objectively responsible for the population explosion in countries like China and India.
2. Toilet witches aren't a thing, but even if they were, it wouldn't matter if India wasn't being used as one of the world's manufacturing hubs. Plenty of African countries are just as bad about street shitting, but they have a lower population and thus a lower environmental impact. When India hits the upper limits of the cheap labor it can provide, you can bet that Nigeria will be the new India.
3. The state of the ganges is caused by two things. The aforementioned population explosion, and pollution from factories. Both are a result of global capital desiring cheap labor.
I say "Jews" as a shorthand to be edgy and because its simpler, but my point remains.

Sit at home seething about Indians shitting in the street if it makes you feel better, but these are complex and multi faceted issues.

Yeah it's definitely not their shitty religion that's has a 10 gorillion gods and one of them raping a bear ( which explains their fucking rapey tendencies )

 

[Dustlord]

No shit, but not even China, which has a similar population, manages that. My issue is, you sound like you want to blame the shit, wasteful, massively polluting cultures of India and China on "Global Capitalism" and maybe even the Jews. Instead of India and China, both of which have pretentions of being world powers. It's everyone else's fault but theirs? They have no responsibility for their own actions? Just Global Capitalism?

Responsibility doesn't come into it. Neither does blame, really.
You can blame them all you want, but the issue will never go away unless the core issue of global capitalism is addressed.

I'm not defending India or China or whatever other shithole you're mad at today, but there's a reason these shitholes are able to have such a large impact outside of their immediate vicinity.

 

[More AWS-8Q Than You]

Responsibility doesn't come into it. Neither does blame, really.
You can blame them all you want, but the issue will never go away unless the core issue of global capitalism is addressed.

So India and China aren't to blame and have no responsibility to clean up their act, so to speak, until we deal with Global Capitalism in some fashion? Is that a correct summation? How do you propose we deal with the issue of Global Capitalism?

 

[Dustlord]

So India and China aren't to blame and have no responsibility to clean up their act, so to speak, until we deal with Global Capitalism in some fashion? Is that a correct summation? How do you propose we deal with the issue of Global Capitalism?

Try to comprehend what people write before you respond next time.
I never said they aren't to blame, nor that they lack responsibility. I said that there is an underlying issue causing their own issues to have more influence than they otherwise would.

As for your last question, I'm not sure. Many people have tried to deal with the issue in different ways and they've been defeated. Perhaps its hopeless.
The only thing I know is, as long as capital continues to seek cheap labor internationally, countries with these problematic cultures are always going to end up in this situation. If its not India, it'll be Nigeria. If its not China, it'll be vietnam.

How exactly do you intend to hold these countries responsible without ceasing reliance on trade with them? If you do cease reliance on them, you've stumbled into my conclusion.

 

[More AWS-8Q Than You]

I never said they aren't to blame, nor that they lack responsibility.

Responsibility doesn't come into it. Neither does blame, really.

Which is it?

As for your last question, I'm not sure. Many people have tried to deal with the issue in different ways and they've been defeated. Perhaps its hopeless.
The only thing I know is, as long as capital continues to seek cheap labor internationally, countries with these problematic cultures are always going to end up in this situation. If its not India, it'll be Nigeria. If its not China, it'll be vietnam.

Some how I don't think the Jungle Asians are going produce so much shit it causes a noticeable increase in fecal concentration on the other side of the pacific, even if there are 100 Million of them now and concentrated into a much smaller area than India.

How exactly do you intend to hold these countries responsible without ceasing reliance on trade with them? If you do cease reliance on them, you've stumbled into my conclusion.

The Left side is Bhutan, the Right side is India. The pursuit of cheap labor at all costs is a problem, Globalism is certainly a massive issue as the West hands its industry to often hostile countries, but lets not pretend that India literally shitting up the world's oceans is the fault of cheap labor.

 

[Dustlord]

Which is it?



Some how I don't think the Jungle Asians are going produce so much shit it causes a noticeable increase in fecal concentration on the other side of the pacific, even if there are 100 Million of them now and concentrated into a much smaller area than India.


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The Left side is Bhutan, the Right side is India. The pursuit of cheap labor at all costs is a problem, Globalism is certainly a massive issue as the West hands its industry to often hostile countries, but lets not pretend that India literally shitting up the world's oceans is the fault of cheap labor.

Can you read? You took two quotes with the same point as if they're opposed. I never said they aren't to blame because blame is ultimately irrelevant. Blame them all you want.
Notice that I compared the Vietnamese to China, not India. Again, your failure to read is not helping your case any.
Bhutan has one of the lowest populations in the world, and yes, a very different culture to India. If you bothered to read what I said, you'd know that I never claimed India doesn't have cultural issues. Only that globalism is the reason India's shitty cultural issues aren't a localised issue.

Honestly I think we agree on more than we disagree on. Its just a matter of framing.

 

[More AWS-8Q Than You]

Can you read? You took two quotes with the same point as if they're opposed. I never said they aren't to blame because blame is ultimately irrelevant. Blame them all you want.
Notice that I compared the Vietnamese to China, not India. Again, your failure to read is not helping your case any.

You're downplaying it. India and China are to blame for their environmental issues, full stop. I know the West won't do anything about it, but shrugging and waving it off until we fix the problem of humanity's desire for cheap labor isn't a solution or helpful. Vietnam was more about population density. They're crammed in there, they're already being used as a hub for cheap labor, yet they manage.

Bhutan has one of the lowest populations in the world, and yes, a very different culture to India. If you bothered to read what I said, you'd know that I never claimed India doesn't have cultural issues. Only that globalism is the reason India's shitty cultural issues aren't a localised issue.

I'm pretty sure India's shitty cultural issues are why it's not localized.

Honestly I think we agree on more than we disagree on. Its just a matter of framing.

Probably, but I watch the political leadership of the West bend over backwards to not hold India and China to account and Superpower 2020 and China Numba One take political advantage of that to avoid sanctions for their terrible environmental practices. We're not going to fix the problem of people wanting cheap labor short of rewiring the human race it would seem, so we have to hold them to account. I know our leaders won't, but that's the only workable solution.

 

[Baby Cakes]

It's not bait. The funny thing about this is that it's just India. Global Capitalism and Jews haven't led to massive run off of shit off the coasts of Africa or China, just India. The Ganges is shitty because they bathe in it, shit in it, dump trash in it, dump corpses in it, they always have. Some how, despite being the hub of modern manufacturing and waste, even the Chinese haven't literally shit up their coastal waters. Sometimes it's not the Jews, sometimes a culture is just shitty.

Do you know Indians have murdered government workers who tried to make them use toilets? That's global capitalism's fault too, right?

Bud, they've fucked more than their coastal waters. They've propped up man-made islands that are just concrete topped landfills. That's destroying habitats and spreading their pollution further south. Visit the beaches in South Korea if you get the chance. You'll notice no one is in the water and it's due to China's pollution. Other than that you're right about The Ganges.

 

[Some JERK]

This sucks for sure, but I wish people would stop using "can be seen from space!!!" in their articles. That just doesn't mean what it used to. Its current year. I can see my house from space.

 

[More AWS-8Q Than You]

Bud, they've fucked more than their coastal waters. They've propped up man-made islands that are just concrete topped landfills. That's destroying habitats and spreading their pollution further south. Visit the beaches in South Korea if you get the chance. You'll notice no one is in the water and it's due to China's pollution. Other than that you're right about The Ganges.

Oh yeah, China's islands are bad, I hadn't realized the general pollution was that bad off South Korea though.