US Kamala in crisis - Should've picked Tulsi guys!

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Kamala in crisis​


Vice President Kamala Harris has had a tough go of it in the media lately. Deputized to deal with the crisis at the border, she has become the public face of the Biden administration’s biggest policy and public-relations problem.

Harris and her team have protested that her task is really to deal with the root causes of the migration surge — humanitarian and economic problems in the migrants’ countries of origin, they say — while the Department of Homeland Security handles the border itself.

But her first diplomatic trip of that mission was widely panned as well. By the time she made an actual border visit, only after former President Donald Trump announced Texas Gov. Greg Abbott had invited him to go, she had already scoffed that she hadn’t been to Europe either, so she didn’t understand the question.

Harris’s interviews became an issue. “There are now concerns that some of that progress may have been overshadowed by her answers to some of these questions that her team knew that she would be facing,” CNN’s Jeremy Diamond reported. “And all of this has left some administration officials perplexed and the vice president's team frustrated.”

Then came reports that Harris’s office was a difficult place to work. “People are thrown under the bus from the very top, there are short fuses, and it’s an abusive environment,” a source told Politico, which described the workplace as “rife with dissent.”

Much of the whispering campaign appeared aimed at Tina Flournoy, who serves as Harris’s chief of staff. But within days, there was talk of concern about her ability to step in for President Joe Biden, who will turn 82 shortly after the next presidential election, if she needed to do so.


Some even used the worst fighting words imaginable in Democratic politics to describe Harris’s political acumen. “Yet many Democrats, including some current senior administration officials, are concerned she could not defeat whomever the Republican Party puts up — even if it were Donald Trump,” Axios reported. One Democrat was quoted as saying party operatives weren’t thinking, “Oh, no, our heir apparent is f***ing up. What are we gonna do?” but rather “Oh, she’s f***ing up. Maybe she shouldn’t be the heir apparent.”

The public numbers bear out this skepticism. The RealClearPolitics polling average finds 46.3% hold an unfavorable view of Harris to just 44.3% with a favorable impression. Biden’s numbers are 51.5% favorable to 43% unfavorable. That’s not far off from his 51.3% of the national popular vote last year.

“It’s early, so I don’t think any of this is fatal,” a Democratic operative said of Harris’s recent struggles. “But it definitely isn’t good.”

While Republicans have struggled to land blows against Biden dating back to the campaign, with even Trump failing to land a negative portrayal of his Democratic opponent that stuck, they have had more luck with Harris. “This week, Kamala Harris passes 100 days as border czar,” Republican National Committee rapid response director Tommy Pigott said at the beginning of July. “That’s 100 days of failure.”

Even the defenses of Harris feel like backhanded compliments. “Based on how things look now, her work as his No. 2 could end up being baggage more than a boon,” worried Christina Greer, a political scientist at Fordham University, in the pages of the New York Times. “Mr. Biden and his team aren’t giving her chances to get some wins and more experience on her ledger. Rather, it’s the hardest of the hard stuff.” In this telling, Harris should be protected by not being given anything important or difficult to do.

"Kamala Harris will probably be the Democratic nominee in 24 or 28. Biden's team should be giving her portfolios that make it likelier she'll win. Instead they're giving her impossible problems that will likely become liabilities," tweeted Ezra Klein, a leading liberal pundit.

For much of her career, Harris has been a woman on the rise. She is still only a decade removed from her service as district attorney of San Francisco. She spent six years as attorney general of California, her first statewide elected office, and served less than one full term in the Senate. Now, Harris finds herself a 78-year-old’s heartbeat away from the presidency.

In fact, Harris owes her current job to the age and identity of the president. She was selected to balance the ticket. Biden is an old white man in an increasingly diverse Democratic Party. Harris is 56, black, of Asian ancestry, and a woman, becoming the first in each of those categories to hold the vice presidency.

But it hasn’t always been easy. Harris ran behind California Gov. Jerry Brown, the top of the Democratic ticket, during her first run for state attorney general in 2010. In the deep-blue state, she edged out her Republican opponent with 46.1% of the vote to 45.3%. Brown defeated Republican Meg Whitman 53.8% to 40.9%.

Harris did much better running for reelection in 2014, winning 57.2% of the vote. But she still ran behind Brown. Her first impressive statewide win came in her 2016 Senate campaign, when she did not face a Republican opponent. Harris beat fellow Democrat Loretta Sanchez, the distant second-place finisher in the nonpartisan “jungle primary,” 61.6% to 38.4% that November as Hillary Clinton won California in a landslide.

While that might have become a safe Senate seat for Harris, it was not the beginning of an electoral juggernaut. She announced that she was seeking the Democratic presidential nomination on Jan. 21, 2019, with a formal launch six days later. She suspended her campaign on Dec. 3, less than a year after that and before a single primary or caucus vote was cast.

The criticism of her presidential campaign sounds similar to some of the complaints lodged against her performance so far as vice president. “Ms. Harris is the only 2020 Democrat who has fallen hard out of the top tier of candidates,” the New York Times reported before she dropped out of the race. “She has proved to be an uneven campaigner who changes her message and tactics to little effect and has a staff torn into factions.”

By October 2019, Harris was winning just 8% of the vote among Democrats in her home state, according to the Public Policy Institute of California’s poll. Then, that December, California Democrats told a Berkeley Institute of Governmental Studies poll conducted for the Los Angeles Times that they wanted her to drop out by a margin of 61% to 24%.

Ironically, Harris’s presidential campaign peaked with her criticism of Biden on race. In a Democratic debate, she dinged the aging front-runner and her future running mate for his past opposition to forced busing to achieve racial balance in schools. “There was a little girl in California who was part of the second class to integrate her public schools, and she was bused to school every day,” she said. “That little girl was me!”

But then, Harris was unable to articulate a current position on busing that was appreciably different from Biden’s. Her stance on “Medicare for all” was similarly muddled. It became unclear whether Harris, who described herself as a “coalition building” candidate, was running in the left or center lane. Soon, she was driven off the road entirely.

The standard complaints about Harris are that she is calculating and beset by staff morale complaints. Of course, the former is a common trait among politicians, including past rivals such as Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg and Biden himself. The president has long chased the center of gravity in the Democratic Party.

The scrutiny of Harris has intensified because of Biden’s age and the prominence of her role in the administration. She meets with foreign leaders, and the White House releases readouts of their calls. Harris often appears close to Biden in the Oval Office and at public events. The speculation that she will be the 2024 Democratic nominee if Biden, the oldest president in history, does not run, both magnifies the concerns and gives others in the party who might like to derail her an incentive to dish.

Despite rumors of a contentious relationship between Harris’s office and the West Wing, Biden’s top brass hasn’t left the vice president hanging.

“I try not to speak to or engage on anonymous reports or anonymous sources," White House press secretary Jen Psaki told reporters at a daily briefing when asked about the metastasizing Harris stories. "I will say that the vice president is an incredibly important partner to the president. She has a challenging job, a hard job. And she has a great, supportive team of people around her. But other than that, I'm not going to have any more comments on those reports."

The White House brought out even bigger guns to offer a full-throated defense of Harris. “She’s delivering for the American people on immigration, small business, voting rights, and economic growth,” Ron Klain, Biden’s chief of staff, told Axios in the story that described her office as a “s***show.” Klain said Harris was “off to the fastest and strongest start of any vice president I have seen.”

In the same story, Biden senior adviser Cedric Richmond accused Harris’s mostly anonymous internal critics of trying to “sabotage” her. “At some point, it just becomes, one person says something long enough, and it becomes an urban legend,” he added. “It doesn’t have to be credible. It doesn’t have to be real. Someone says something, and it can just snowball.”

To many Democrats, it is a familiar tale of double standards for ambitious women.

“I think it's both unfair and normal D.C. backstabbing,” said Democratic strategist Jessica Tarlov. “Women in particular are criticized for being harsh or difficult bosses — see Amy Klobuchar — and rarely if ever hear about such things when the principal is a man.”

Now, amid reports that the White House is contemplating ways it can better support Harris and her team, some suggest they begin with the vice president's policy portfolio.

“She was also given a completely thankless and near impossible brief with the border, like Biden was under Obama, and needs other issue areas so that there's a chance at success,” Tarlov said. “The border crisis has been a crisis for as long as I've been paying attention to politics — no one person can fix it, and the notion that they can is ridiculous.”

With the midterm elections looming and Democratic control of the Senate hanging on Harris’s tiebreaking vote, the job won’t get any easier.
 
Biden and Kamela being the President and Vice President is a monkey's paw wish come true. They obviously do not know how to run ANYTHING without shady shit. Moreso than the average politician. I would've preferred taking my chances with Trump reelection.
A second Trump term would have meant a literal second Civil War though, imagine the Floyd riots times a thousand.

America was stuck between a real rock and a hard place in 2020.

Not as controversial as my fondness for Hillary Clinton. Actually, reading that last paragraph, TMI.

I legitimately think that Hillary Clinton is marginally less corrupt than Kamela.
To be fair Hilary was more attractive when she was younger, but I was talking about modern Hilary.

But as far as TMI territory goes, put Kamala in some lingerie and I can imagine she'd be decently boner worthy.

There's a reason why politicians and the media weren't bitching about the border under Obama and it wasn't because it was less of a problem back then, it's because there are no easy solutions. So everyone was real smug bringing up the border under Trump and turning it into this big fucking deal with the "oh look children in cages!", but now the other shoe has dropped. Trump isn't in office and the general public are now more aware of the border issues and the children in cages and they're expecting Biden and Harris to fix it...
Modern left wing politics is entirely predicated on the idea that whatever is "nice" is the answer.

But the border is not an issue you can solve by being nice, you have to lock it down and keep people out, that's all there is to it, it's a shame that these are often desperate people trying to escape bad situations back home but it's at the end of the day not our responsibility and it damages us by letting anyone just come in, it sucks and unfortunate but it's not a perfect world, there's people in the world suffering and there's nothing the US can really do about it, that's just the way the cookie crumbles.

But you're average leftist can't handle that fact, "but... but... BUT THAT'S NOT NIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICE! THAT'S NOT WHAT MR ROGERS WOULD DO!" they would say.

It's ironic because the left used to criticize the idea of America being "policeman of the world" but as soon as that, nice, smiling, well spoken black man got in office suddenly it's our job to make the entire world a perfect place.

I'm saying this as a dyed in the wool, voted for Reagan republican...if Tulsi Gabbard had been the choice for pres. on the Dem. side, "big tiddy surfer milky mommy" memes aside, I would have had to have thought a LOT about my vote, if it'd been between her and Trump. As it is now...God, I don't want to get older but the next 4 years can't go by fast enough.
Meanwhile I hope they go by as slow as possible, because I hope for some vague Obama style "normalcy" for a while, because the 2024 election is sure to be a shitshow, we get closer to collapse with every election.
 
I'm saying this as a dyed in the wool, voted for Reagan republican...if Tulsi Gabbard had been the choice for pres. on the Dem. side, "big tiddy surfer milky mommy" memes aside, I would have had to have thought a LOT about my vote, if it'd been between her and Trump. As it is now...God, I don't want to get older but the next 4 years can't go by fast enough.
Based on how she railroaded everybody in the debates, Harris in particular, she was a definite pick for me as President. I would've LOVED to see Trump and Tulsi debate. She was not the establishment; she was a bonafide politician that knew right from wrong. I don't even WANT to call her a politician, she's too honest for that.

Even if some things went wrong during her tenure, you cannot deny her respect for her country.
 
I've often wondered why the DNC signed off on Kamala as the VP since no one wanted to vote for her. The only thing I can come up with is she's the only one who would agree to be Biden's VP who also ticked the correct diversity boxes.
This might be controversial but I actually think she's decently attractive... as far as politicians go.

I mean I'm not gonna be breaking out the Vaseline and jerking off... but I'm just saying that's more likely to happen than it would with say, Hilary Clinton.
Honestly, I'd hit it just to see if she cackles like a lunatic while getting fucked.
 
I honestly thought the plan was to have Joe gracefully retire/get hit by the 25th amendment and put Harris in office before 2024, since she's anathema to voters but everything the Uniparty wants in a candidate. To say this turnaround towards increasing discord between her and the White House is surprising is an understatement.

Really wondering how they're going to approach the next election now, since I think most of us can agree Joe is probably not going to run again.

I think they're caught in a hard spot because if they invoke the 25th amendment to remove Biden then that really reflects very badly on the Dems overall and also proves that Trump was right about Biden being unfit to be POTUS and him retiring suddenly and handing the reins over to Kamala like Nixon did to Ford during Watergate would still raise a lot of questions and cast doubt on her presidency and Biden's overall fitness especially if he ended up getting worse or dying within a year or two after the resignation.
 
I've often wondered why the DNC signed off on Kamala as the VP since no one wanted to vote for her. The only thing I can come up with is she's the only one who would agree to be Biden's VP who also ticked the correct diversity boxes.
Bingo. That's exact what it was.

Any actual 'Diversity candidates wouldn't agree to work under the a crusty old white guy because it would ruin their "Never serve under whitey" image.

Kamala would because she's just that power-hungry. And she's "Close enough" to black that idiot voters didn't realize that she's Indian.
 
Bingo. That's exact what it was.

Any actual 'Diversity candidates wouldn't agree to work under the a crusty old white guy because it would ruin their "Never serve under whitey" image.

Kamala would because she's just that power-hungry. And she's "Close enough" to black that idiot voters didn't realize that she's Indian.
At the end of the day it really is all about Who counts the ""votes"".
 
My belief is Harris was definitely going to replace Biden before his first term was out. I think what happened was the Democrats were going to remove Trump by any means necessary, Pelosi literally said as much. I think their plan was to stuff the ballot box, get Trump out, and then ram through their election "fortification" plan. They planned on having enough senators to rubber stamp whatever was put in front of them, same as in the House. What I think happened was Democrats were caught completely flat footed by how many Trump supporters came out on election day.

I think they expected a few million more but not 11 million more votes. This is why they needed to scramble and come up with the "water leak", sending away people because they were "done counting" for the night, and of course the early morning surge Biden saw. To stuff as many ballots as they could, they couldn't really worry about down ballot races, which is why so many people came out to "vote" for Biden, yet didn't do anything with the down ballot races. This in the end stopped the Democrats from taking complete control of the Senate and having an easy 50+ votes to passing "election fortification" and destroying the filibuster.

I think the original plan was to just use Biden as a Trojan horse and get in and then have Harris takeover after a predetermined time, to make it look like Joe had every intention of running the country but had to give it up. It didn't matter if Harris was liked or not since with the "election fortifications" passed, Republicans wouldn't be able to win anyways and she is the perfect puppet for the powers that be. Now with that plan in the shiiter, the Democrats are in a real tough spot, they can't bank on the same shit they did in 2020, they are likely going to lose at least one of the houses and their choices is to ride with Biden, who is clearly demented and only getting worse the more they have to put him out front, or they go with Harris who is on par with colon cancer in popularity.

This is why the DNC behind the scenes is panicking, they have no real winning hand for 2022, let alone 2024. There is no way Biden is going to make it to 2024, especially if he has to keep getting put into the spotlight because Harris is falling flat on her face. Harris isn't going to step down or resign, she is far too arrogant and too power hungry to do so, she is joined at the hip to Biden and they will both go down in flames together.
 
There are stories of Biden sperging out and yelling at people in the White House whereas the worst thing Kamala seems to get complaints about is that she seemed pro law enforcement or didn't seem nice enough with staff. The latter sounds like staff sensing weakness and wanting more power in the White House by playing the oppression Olympics within the White House. She also appears to play the role of president more often than Biden whose doing more prepared speeches and comments as evidenced by him having to pull out notecards to answer random questions about his own policies.

Problem for Kamala is it's hard to reform the image crisis that got placed in her lap in the form of a border crisis. She's had to be doing interviews talking about immigrants not needing to come into the country while also trying to be pro-immigration for Dem voters, meanwhile Biden has been able to fuck around eating ice cream at events. The ice cream thing definitely seems on purpose as the DNC has a Biden ice cream truck running around at this point.

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Kamala looks worse in comparison as she's getting judged on the single worst issue a Dem VP could be forced to handle and hasn't been able to move onto doing PR events or at least something a bit more cheerful like starting up expensive new programs to hand out money for useless shit like the green energy corps or whatever.
 
I want to agree with you but she is fucking power hungry. She's this close to being the leader of the US. You think she's going to step away when Dementia Biden has already said he'll only do one term? Shiiiiiiiit no she won't. She didn't fuck her way to the top in California to be brushed away by a guy who needs a Secret Service agent to open his pudding cup and close all his loli tabs he's got open on his laptop for him.
I think @Gehenna has a pretty solid theory that he’s put forth elsewhere about the fact that Kamala is trying to get herself closer to being able to hold power, but because there’s several other groups trying to fight for power right now, that’s just making them twitchy and may be leading to them all turning on her as an easy and obvious external threat - hence stuff like this article.
 
I think @Gehenna has a pretty solid theory that he’s put forth elsewhere about the fact that Kamala is trying to get herself closer to being able to hold power, but because there’s several other groups trying to fight for power right now, that’s just making them twitchy and may be leading to them all turning on her as an easy and obvious external threat - hence stuff like this article.

I would concur with that opinion, all things considered.
 
There are stories of Biden sperging out and yelling at people in the White House whereas the worst thing Kamala seems to get complaints about is that she seemed pro law enforcement or didn't seem nice enough with staff. The latter sounds like staff sensing weakness and wanting more power in the White House by playing the oppression Olympics within the White House. She also appears to play the role of president more often than Biden whose doing more prepared speeches and comments as evidenced by him having to pull out notecards to answer random questions about his own policies.
Just going to comment on a few of your points because I think you're off the mark. Many Democrats have been accused of running a hostile work environment, and considering how power hungry many of them come across as, I have a hard time believing Kamala is just a hard-ass. Especially with how far out of her way she goes to seem nice, like giving out creepy faceless cookies to reporters while Joe blows up on them. Well, so does she...
Problem for Kamala is it's hard to reform the image crisis that got placed in her lap in the form of a border crisis. She's had to be doing interviews talking about immigrants not needing to come into the country while also trying to be pro-immigration for Dem voters, meanwhile Biden has been able to fuck around eating ice cream at events. The ice cream thing definitely seems on purpose as the DNC has a Biden ice cream truck running around at this point.
Oh, you mean the crisis she showed absolutely no interest in beyond getting BTFO'd by a third world shithole? Her "image crisis" is her seeming like she's fucking around instead of doing her job, and then when she does deign to do it she does it poorly. You're correct about her trying to have her cake and eat it too with the voters as far as immigration goes, but there's a serious problem she's just plain not managing. And as for "Two Scoops" Biden. the media is trying very hard to make him America's Grandpa. And of course they're failing because Dementia Joe is a senile, bad tempered old coot when he isn't out getting two scoops. Honestly, this administration isn't taking it's responsibilities seriously, bottom line.
Kamala looks worse in comparison as she's getting judged on the single worst issue a Dem VP could be forced to handle and hasn't been able to move onto doing PR events or at least something a bit more cheerful like starting up expensive new programs to hand out money for useless shit like the green energy corps or whatever.
Made worse by the fact that it was being handled and all they had to do was ride out Trump's reforms and take the credit. But they couldn't give Orange Man any W's, so they blew it all up then wondered why shit got so bad. I'd say they got what they deserved, but they're not the ones paying for it. We are.
 
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