U.S. Riots of April 2021 over Derek Chauvin & Riot Watch General

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aussiejinjo said:
seems to be completely fabricated, i went looking for evidence of it and couldnt find anything to suggest she was pregnant (wasnt stated eitherway)
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He did hold a gun to her belly, so I see why people would think that. Usually you hold a gun to someone's head or just aim it at the core where you're going to dump on them. The belly is strangely specific. Anyway, I think she probably was, but it's pure speculation that turned into a meme.
 
Considering what a scumbag St. George of Fentanyl was and the ungodly sum of money his family got as compensation for the death of a man who basically wasn't in their lives at all, honest victim impact statements would consist of the relatives coming up and testifying that their lives are way better off now that he's dead. I think there was one of his multiple children from multiple mothers that he had any relationship with at all, someone correct me if this is wrong.
 
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Krokodil Overdose said:
Cool, now do Chauvin. That's the snag here- Chauvin is also a citizen who also has rights, at least in theory. Most relevant of these is the right to a fair trial, which presumably excludes a judge who endorses what is, by his own account, mistrial-worthy behavior by the prosecution or a jury with proverbial guns to their heads. Then there's the contextual factors, like the fact that there's been no such ginned-up outcry to punish Tony Timpa's killers, and the identity of the officer who killed Ashli Babbet is still being protected, never mind prosecuting the man. To view this as anything other than a politically motivated railroading requires first disbelieving your lying eyes.
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The bigger issue is that most of the public is absolutely convinced that everything that happened was because of race (and not, y'know, callous officers manhandling a gigantic junkie) and the guilty verdict and sentence confirming it in their eyes.
 
ColtWalker1847 said:
The bigger issue is that most of the public is absolutely convinced that everything that happened was because of race (and not, y'know, callous officers manhandling a gigantic junkie) and the guilty verdict and sentence confirming it in their eyes.
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I agree with you to a point, but I'm not sure how this belief is an issue given that it's substantially correct. Does anyone with an IQ larger than his hat size seriously think any of this would have happened if Chauvin had been black and/or Floyd had been white?
 
Vern Schillinger said:
The intention was to make an example of him, and that's exactly what they did.
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Bingo.

From the start, there seemed to be a push to make an example out of Chauvin should the prosecution get their conviction. So, the sentence doesn't surprise me one bit.

Even for those who feel Chauvin should have been held accountable, nothing will change in terms of that or race relations that are already deteriorating faster than untreated metal left in salt water.
 
Krokodil Overdose said:
I agree with you to a point, but I'm not sure how this belief is an issue given that it's substantially correct. Does anyone with an IQ larger than his hat size seriously think any of this would have happened if Chauvin had been black and/or Floyd had been white?
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There's a case there. I dunno how that would turn out, probably a lot like the cop who killed Otto Zehm.

But the whole shitshow here is 100% race based. The hoopla and polarization along political lines for the purposes of an election is what made it a complete mess. Nobody painted murals or burned down a city for poor Otto. Most people have probably never heard of him. Poor guy just wanted a candy bar.
 
ColtWalker1847 said:
The bigger issue is that most of the public is absolutely convinced that everything that happened was because of race (and not, y'know, callous officers manhandling a gigantic junkie) and the guilty verdict and sentence confirming it in their eyes.
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Think about how nobody really got that the O.J. Simpson case had nothing to do with race, it was about how with enough money, you can buy your way out of anything, even literal murder. This lasts until you run out of money.
 
Techpriest said:
If you shoot someone who’s already going to die anyway, it’s still murder.
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Calling what happened murder is just hypersensitive nonsense. At best, the cop committed manslaughter by not getting him sufficient aid. Like, I don't think the cop was completely innocent, but I don't think it was murder. I'm pretty sure the move he did is pretty common, but when Floyd said he couldn't breathe, he should have changed it. Floyd may have died anyway, but the cop may have contributed to it.
 

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