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@tessasteatime on twitter has been demanding trans women recieve uterus transplants and a bunch of troons are siding with him. its a rather common talking point.
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probably from all the ftms they trick into getting full hysterectomy
that way even the push for the trooning of little girls goes back to benefit the male trannies
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How do you feel about troons, kiwis?
For my part first I felt sympathy they can never be the thing they want, then I felt hatred that as a population they're terrible people responsible for so many modern ails, but now I feel like hating them is like hating a dog for having rabies. Something should have saved that dog from tragedy.
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Having a uterus absolutely does NOT define womanhood but obviously we need to spend every last bit of funding towards making sure that transwomen get uterus transplants so they can be 100% REAL authentic NOT FAKE women
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This gives me hope, pure hope. This 16yo kid is being "de-trannied" live on YouTube.
/pol/ raided the livestream and then started trolling the kid, but after some time they've been talking to him. And now he's rethinking his actions.
Whatever the hell did this, did a good job.
I mean, this kid needed a father figure to talk to.
He was a confused and lost in this... contemporary world and his family just didn't cared about him or his interests. He taught himself to love himself. And that makes me think a lot. All of these people just need is somebody to talk to, to rely on.
/pol/ raided the livestream and then started trolling the kid, but after some time they've been talking to him. And now he's rethinking his actions.
Whatever the hell did this, did a good job.
I mean, this kid needed a father figure to talk to.
He was a confused and lost in this... contemporary world and his family just didn't cared about him or his interests. He taught himself to love himself. And that makes me think a lot. All of these people just need is somebody to talk to, to rely on.
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Physically impossible. The reason you have to dilate an amhole is not just because of the potential for scar tissue.
If you want to cram a uterus inside a man you're going to run into similar issues.
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i started out with legitimate sympathy for transexuals (related but different to transgenders) the same way i'd have sympathy for someone with BID. it very much helped that the transmeds that made the community the AGP transvestites now commandeer seemed to genuinely wish they weren't transexual-- either by wishing they had comfort in their birth sex again or working their hardest to seamlessly and quietly integrate themselves into the opposite sex. they'd never demand any definition that'd deviate them and everyone else, because they wanted to be cis in a way that meant more than whining loudly about it on the internet, exposing their trans-ness to all, and demanding society contort itself around privileging them anything and everthing while they spat upon them for it.
anyway, it's the pretending-away of the patently obvious even if you call it gender euphoria AGP that continues to fuel my hate even more than see them piss all over womanhood and science while the libs and libfems kneel in servitude beneath them, mouths obediently open. that and the fact they're all fucking narcs with textbook narc behavior and no one can fucking recognize it. flying monkeys as far as the eye can see.
i don't actually mind the newspeak wins and chestfeeding much because congratulations: you've won some words. take that to the bank and see where it gets ya.
i feel pity for the self-sterilizing generation of gays and autists, but not enough to overtake my hatred. play stupid games, win stupid prizes. threaten with the go to jail card to demand all the monopoly money, and all you've got is a handful of worthless toy money in the end when the bill comes due.
my only reaction to the troons and their enablers when the medical complications and lawsuits from once-children they ruined and bad pr overwhelming their stranglehold on it devour them will be then perish. you had a chance to gatekeep. enjoy your open floodgates.
but then came idpol, hand and hand with lifestyle activism. 100 companies behind 71% of greenhouse emissions, but it's just so much more easy and fun and validating to scream at singular people who dare to use straws. and it's activism, isn't it? i mean, it's just so much harder to do all those other things beyond wordpolicing and hashtag reblogging, and tiring, and you don't even get to feel rewarded, most of the time. it has to be activism, doesn't it? i mean so many other activists just like you say so, it must be true.
and working to free yourself from your oppression just doesn't seem all that validating. it just seems hard. shouldn't everyone else be doing the work? i mean, why do you have to climb out from your oppression? it's the oppressors that should be beneath you, lifting you up. don't forget to tell them that they're beneath you at every given opportunity, because that seems like a good long-term strategy when you haven't even done enough climbing and lifting each other yourself to have the good footholds to do it. good thing your hashtags will protect you from the literal half of the country you've deliberately alienated. lobbying (why pay? you're owed. what, are people ever going to make you pay for it?) and those other things that actually fucking work are beneath you. maybe protest some more and dominate more social media like hong kong did. i mean, it must have worked out for hong kong, didn't it? there were just so many activists involved. probably, idk, never checked, it stopped trending.
keep a-dancing around and throwing things at that sleeping tiger. i mean, you already shamed them into changing it from "catch a nigger by the toe", so clearly the tiger just ain't no threat. myopic fucking goy-ass americans with their tImE iSn'T cYcLiCaL and SoCiEtY OnLy gOeS fOrWaRd and HiStOrY iS tHeRe tO TaLLy oPpReSsiOn pOiNtS oWeD rather than living-dead evidence that every fucking race and culture is the fucking oppressor if given the single chance and even if they're FUCKING homogenous they just will INVENT buraku to shit on so shut the FUCK up and stick to FUCKING class.
but that's me sperging my jew ass off on how we've been building and rebuilding success as the stubbornly other (which hint you dumb "cultural appropriation" identity fetishizing motherfuckers: if you're going to fucking other over integrating some people will always hate you for existing as an other and thus want to pogrom ya bared ass no matter how much civilization you slap over them and the end result will always come down to a bristling militarized home base sealed in with a fucking "ambiguous" (lmao right) nuke) since the first fucking exile and by this time we're better than you 'bout it. congratulations, "activists", you have won the social media and get to feel accomplished and fulfilled, whilst meanwhile the zionists just went to the actual fucking power and did the things that work and thus turned israel into an rooted unbeatable powerhouse of american politics. but hey; no more woolworth's. round of applause.
i've gone off topic again. tl;dr sjws and them shtickgoy sjayjews are bad at being jewish and it offends me. but that's what you get when you make israel is enemy never stop trending for your precious 61% wifebeater angels because you want to pissfight with republicans. all the jews, good or bad, who are good-at-being-jewish dump ya ass for daring to threaten the most vitally important escape-hatch that's our being-the-other (for LONGER THAN YOU, i guarantee) home base while you caper about and pogrom-taunt with your leftover fucking yanivs. the fact they did is evidence enough they don't know what they're doing. fuck i've even ruined the tl;dr. man it feels fucking good to let loose my uncensored jewery on my fellow lefties.
*slaps hand* motherfucking damnit troons now.
and working to free yourself from your oppression just doesn't seem all that validating. it just seems hard. shouldn't everyone else be doing the work? i mean, why do you have to climb out from your oppression? it's the oppressors that should be beneath you, lifting you up. don't forget to tell them that they're beneath you at every given opportunity, because that seems like a good long-term strategy when you haven't even done enough climbing and lifting each other yourself to have the good footholds to do it. good thing your hashtags will protect you from the literal half of the country you've deliberately alienated. lobbying (why pay? you're owed. what, are people ever going to make you pay for it?) and those other things that actually fucking work are beneath you. maybe protest some more and dominate more social media like hong kong did. i mean, it must have worked out for hong kong, didn't it? there were just so many activists involved. probably, idk, never checked, it stopped trending.
keep a-dancing around and throwing things at that sleeping tiger. i mean, you already shamed them into changing it from "catch a nigger by the toe", so clearly the tiger just ain't no threat. myopic fucking goy-ass americans with their tImE iSn'T cYcLiCaL and SoCiEtY OnLy gOeS fOrWaRd and HiStOrY iS tHeRe tO TaLLy oPpReSsiOn pOiNtS oWeD rather than living-dead evidence that every fucking race and culture is the fucking oppressor if given the single chance and even if they're FUCKING homogenous they just will INVENT buraku to shit on so shut the FUCK up and stick to FUCKING class.
but that's me sperging my jew ass off on how we've been building and rebuilding success as the stubbornly other (which hint you dumb "cultural appropriation" identity fetishizing motherfuckers: if you're going to fucking other over integrating some people will always hate you for existing as an other and thus want to pogrom ya bared ass no matter how much civilization you slap over them and the end result will always come down to a bristling militarized home base sealed in with a fucking "ambiguous" (lmao right) nuke) since the first fucking exile and by this time we're better than you 'bout it. congratulations, "activists", you have won the social media and get to feel accomplished and fulfilled, whilst meanwhile the zionists just went to the actual fucking power and did the things that work and thus turned israel into an rooted unbeatable powerhouse of american politics. but hey; no more woolworth's. round of applause.
i've gone off topic again. tl;dr sjws and them shtickgoy sjayjews are bad at being jewish and it offends me. but that's what you get when you make israel is enemy never stop trending for your precious 61% wifebeater angels because you want to pissfight with republicans. all the jews, good or bad, who are good-at-being-jewish dump ya ass for daring to threaten the most vitally important escape-hatch that's our being-the-other (for LONGER THAN YOU, i guarantee) home base while you caper about and pogrom-taunt with your leftover fucking yanivs. the fact they did is evidence enough they don't know what they're doing. fuck i've even ruined the tl;dr. man it feels fucking good to let loose my uncensored jewery on my fellow lefties.
*slaps hand* motherfucking damnit troons now.
anyway, it's the pretending-away of the patently obvious even if you call it gender euphoria AGP that continues to fuel my hate even more than see them piss all over womanhood and science while the libs and libfems kneel in servitude beneath them, mouths obediently open. that and the fact they're all fucking narcs with textbook narc behavior and no one can fucking recognize it. flying monkeys as far as the eye can see.
i don't actually mind the newspeak wins and chestfeeding much because congratulations: you've won some words. take that to the bank and see where it gets ya.
i feel pity for the self-sterilizing generation of gays and autists, but not enough to overtake my hatred. play stupid games, win stupid prizes. threaten with the go to jail card to demand all the monopoly money, and all you've got is a handful of worthless toy money in the end when the bill comes due.
my only reaction to the troons and their enablers when the medical complications and lawsuits from once-children they ruined and bad pr overwhelming their stranglehold on it devour them will be then perish. you had a chance to gatekeep. enjoy your open floodgates.
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jerry coyne wants to know something i've wondered for a long time now.
why does he (& everybody else) get more grief when questioning trans dogma than race dogma?:
... there’s no doubt that when I question whether transsexual women who have undergone no medical intervention should compete in women’s sports, or tell people to read Abigail Shrier’s book, I get far more pushback than when I agree with something that John McWhorter or Glenn Loury says. The pushback comes partly in the form of blog comments (including the really nasty ones that I don’t put up), as well as personal emails and comments in my Twitter feed. (I tend to not read Twitter comments but sometimes can’t resist.)
In other words, there’s something about criticizing transsexual dogma that seems to raise people’s hackles far higher than criticizing some assertions of Ibram Kendi, Robin DiAngelo, or Critical Race Theory.
Now there’s room for pushback from all sides, as no one issue has to completely dominate political and ideological discourse. But I’m surprised at the greater rancor attending those who raise questions about transsexual issues than about racial issues—at least when it comes to me. Another friend I discussed this with sees the same disparity. A staff lawyer for the ACLU, for instance, has called for the banning of Abigail Shrier’s book on gender dysphoria, but nobody on the ACLU, at least as far as I know, has called for any book on race to be banned.
My question is this: why the disparity? Why are critics of so-called “transphobes” so much more rancorous than critics of Kendi or CRT? Is this just my own personal experience and not a general observation? And if it is general, why, given the relative number of people involved in both issues, why? Is there something about transsexuality that makes its advocates especially defensive or offensive?
I can’t think of a reason, so I just thought I’d ask the readers.
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some good answers, made me wonder if any farmers in his commenters:
I guess the obvious answer is misogyny. Transsexual ideology empowers white males (as if that group needed more power) as it gives them yet another weapon with which to silence, harass and denigrate females. Questioning ideology that elicits an often violent reaction.
I’m absolutely not saying all or even most trans people are misogynist – but the vocal “trans-allies” who dish out abuse are almost always misogynists.
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Could it be a most likely this is a hangover from their male days with testosterone and propensity for violence as a problem solver. Of course we now know that this is not possible since they are now women.
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I note your comments about pushback and people tending to be aggressive towards dissent. I suggest there is also a ‘fashion’ element driving this. Historically some people have pushed their membership of the ‘in crowd’ (that dates me) by wearing uncomfortable clothing, holding radical views, consuming dangerous substances, listening to weird music or plays, and behaving in an extreme manner.
Clearly if some people are going to risk their health for the sake of a fashion then others must be in the most horrid class of all – the unfashionable. They are beneath contempt for not taking fashion seriously.
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99 mostly-smart reactions. check em out, farmers.
EDIT also quillette: Standing Up to the Gender Ideologues: a Quillette Editorial
people starting to question the okeydoke
why does he (& everybody else) get more grief when questioning trans dogma than race dogma?:
... there’s no doubt that when I question whether transsexual women who have undergone no medical intervention should compete in women’s sports, or tell people to read Abigail Shrier’s book, I get far more pushback than when I agree with something that John McWhorter or Glenn Loury says. The pushback comes partly in the form of blog comments (including the really nasty ones that I don’t put up), as well as personal emails and comments in my Twitter feed. (I tend to not read Twitter comments but sometimes can’t resist.)
In other words, there’s something about criticizing transsexual dogma that seems to raise people’s hackles far higher than criticizing some assertions of Ibram Kendi, Robin DiAngelo, or Critical Race Theory.
Now there’s room for pushback from all sides, as no one issue has to completely dominate political and ideological discourse. But I’m surprised at the greater rancor attending those who raise questions about transsexual issues than about racial issues—at least when it comes to me. Another friend I discussed this with sees the same disparity. A staff lawyer for the ACLU, for instance, has called for the banning of Abigail Shrier’s book on gender dysphoria, but nobody on the ACLU, at least as far as I know, has called for any book on race to be banned.
My question is this: why the disparity? Why are critics of so-called “transphobes” so much more rancorous than critics of Kendi or CRT? Is this just my own personal experience and not a general observation? And if it is general, why, given the relative number of people involved in both issues, why? Is there something about transsexuality that makes its advocates especially defensive or offensive?
I can’t think of a reason, so I just thought I’d ask the readers.
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some good answers, made me wonder if any farmers in his commenters:
I guess the obvious answer is misogyny. Transsexual ideology empowers white males (as if that group needed more power) as it gives them yet another weapon with which to silence, harass and denigrate females. Questioning ideology that elicits an often violent reaction.
I’m absolutely not saying all or even most trans people are misogynist – but the vocal “trans-allies” who dish out abuse are almost always misogynists.
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Could it be a most likely this is a hangover from their male days with testosterone and propensity for violence as a problem solver. Of course we now know that this is not possible since they are now women.
______________
I note your comments about pushback and people tending to be aggressive towards dissent. I suggest there is also a ‘fashion’ element driving this. Historically some people have pushed their membership of the ‘in crowd’ (that dates me) by wearing uncomfortable clothing, holding radical views, consuming dangerous substances, listening to weird music or plays, and behaving in an extreme manner.
Clearly if some people are going to risk their health for the sake of a fashion then others must be in the most horrid class of all – the unfashionable. They are beneath contempt for not taking fashion seriously.
_____________
99 mostly-smart reactions. check em out, farmers.
EDIT also quillette: Standing Up to the Gender Ideologues: a Quillette Editorial
people starting to question the okeydoke
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To be accurate, it wasn’t some vast trove of literature or anything. It was research by the Jew Dr who got ran off.
There is this popular troon fiction making the rounds for a good year or three now, claiming there was some huge treasure trove of ancient trans writing which has been stolen from them.
This vast trove of ancient trans texts & arcs of troon covenants was burned! Burned! By the damn Nazi’s.
From what I recall, it was one Dr’s life work. A few research papers on interviews of the few people who wanted to change sex. So, transsexuals.
There were not many cases. No loads of troons either, living around this vast treasure trove of ancient “trans” lit cope.
As is often the case, troons be writing fanfic of history, to suit their needs.
Most of the sexuality institute stuff centered around gay & lesbo stuff, some cross dressing, & a couple transsexuals, more likely.
No troves, conveniently burned by nazi troops as they forced 5 million troons to walk a trail of tears lined w/ panties & spinny skirts.
The “historical vast trove of trans literature” fiction is a current favorite for idiots attempting to move those goal posts right where they need them.
Rather curious no one can name any titles from the alleged troon treasure trove, isn’t it? Just a few research papers & such.
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Because race dogma has *some* origin in reality. Like yeah, the US used to have slavery and segregation. But troon dogma is complete fantasy, where you have to forego every sense of reality to understand it, to never ask questions.
Hence why the pushback is so strong when you oppose them. It can't stand on it's own, and it certainly doesn't survive any debate or discussion.
Edit: I don't agree with some of the reactions. No, they don't pushback on dissent because "they hate women". Sure many troons do, but that's not the answer to the given question. And no, it's not because "muh white males" neither
And on top of that it's an ideology promoted top down by powerful individuals, so you're outgunned anyway.
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Cross-posted from Rat King thread.
Had to. I almost A-logged over the blatant fucking misogyny and misandry. Both. This guy is an artist of epic gender retardation.
To wit: Women who marry men who come out as trans after the fact should have known because their husbands….were sensitive and not stereotypically masculine?
How is this even not shot the fuck down as regressive thought? It’s so offensive on just about every level.
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True, but that's exactly the kind of person sick troon cultists are looking for to "crack their egg" aka groom them to join troonhood.
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Large elements of this narrative are cope for people who think the based Natsocs are going to come back and save them again from the evil American Weimar. The Nazis kept up with issuing crossdressing certificates that allowed people to change sex on official documents, although they did crack down on anything that looked like homosexual behavior. They also fucking loved drag for some reason, but then again everyone seems to have loved it in the 1940s.
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Give us your uteri, bigoted cissies!
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Do you have any source on this? I tried googling but only the Weimar institute pops up
According to this: https://aha.confex.com/aha/2020/webprogram/Paper27446.html crossdressing was, atleast technically, illegal. Certainly not outright supported by the government like you claim
I searched some more, I did find a singular case of what appears to be a women allowed to keep "male" on her identification, but it seems to have been an isolated case, maybe intersex? Apparantly she had a masculine voice and look.
The Early 20th-Century ID Cards That Kept Trans People Safe From Harassment
The radical days of the Weimar Republic, just before the rise of Nazism.
www.atlasobscura.com
I can't find anything about nazis allowing people to have crossdressing certificates or changing their sex on official documents...
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This bullshit "nazis destroyed all the trans research!" talking point needs to be put the fuck to sleep. I've heard it irl from a number of handmaidens at this point and it really seems to be the first line of defense for why there's a suspicious black hole of information when it comes to historical records on trans people. It's admittedly a great little catchall point because they are essentially arguing the absence of evidence but jokes on them there's actually some surviving texts and Magnus Hirschfeld really seemed to be more of a Ray Blanchard than a John Money. Which is to say he studied gay men.
Someone waaaay back in the thread mentioned Die Transvestiten, which is a surviving summary text of Hirschfeld's research (the source research did indeed get destroyed). Here's an English writeup on it for anyone interested.
This talking point needs to go too, though it does a great job of single handedly laying bare the medical ignorance of trans identified men as well as their utter disregard for the struggles of natal women. Uterus transplants from woman to woman are both incredibly recent (the first successful one being in 2014) and incredibly rare. The only reason to GET a uterus transplant is to have a child "naturally", which in itself is a particularly depressing bit of sex-based psychological oppression that only women will experience, and the uterus is taken out immediately afterwards. There will never be uterus transplants into male bodies. Period.
Been thinking about this a lot lately. Over a decade ago I was a part of some communities online with higher than average trans presences and always chalked it up to those people either coping with mental illness or severe trauma and going trans was a way for them to either change or get new control over their lives. Their struggles with mental illness were sympathetic and I'm supportive of gender non-conformity ala androgyny so I was generally supportive as long as they weren't self-obsessed assholes.
Then the SJW tidal wave came in around 2015-2016 and all of a sudden the rhetoric went from "I just feel comfortable this way and want to live my life in peace" to "TRANS WOMEN ARE WOMEN" "ITS MAAAAM" bullshit and I realized that while the kind of trans people I knew still existed, their identity had been largely overtaken by the loud, entitled, women fetishist type. I still want to believe most trans people are mentally ill people who just settled on a really weird coping mechanism but honestly I'm even starting to question that now.
The push towards "trans kids" rhetoric is what really peaked me, though. The "puberty blockers are harmless and reversible!" line sent off alarm bells so I did some research and didn't have to dig much at all to find enough data to be absolutely horrified at the fact this shit is being given to children. Then I saw how many people were happily, ignorantly repeating such harmful misinformation and I fuckin snapped. Trans ideology as it stands right now is harmful to women, gay folks, and children, and every day it feel like im on crazy pills looking around and seeing how many people still dont realize this.
Thank you kiwis for help keepin me sane lol.
Then the SJW tidal wave came in around 2015-2016 and all of a sudden the rhetoric went from "I just feel comfortable this way and want to live my life in peace" to "TRANS WOMEN ARE WOMEN" "ITS MAAAAM" bullshit and I realized that while the kind of trans people I knew still existed, their identity had been largely overtaken by the loud, entitled, women fetishist type. I still want to believe most trans people are mentally ill people who just settled on a really weird coping mechanism but honestly I'm even starting to question that now.
The push towards "trans kids" rhetoric is what really peaked me, though. The "puberty blockers are harmless and reversible!" line sent off alarm bells so I did some research and didn't have to dig much at all to find enough data to be absolutely horrified at the fact this shit is being given to children. Then I saw how many people were happily, ignorantly repeating such harmful misinformation and I fuckin snapped. Trans ideology as it stands right now is harmful to women, gay folks, and children, and every day it feel like im on crazy pills looking around and seeing how many people still dont realize this.
Thank you kiwis for help keepin me sane lol.
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Don't worry about the anatomical problems, there's actual fucking doctors who think this should be a thing.
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If you google 'Transvestitenscheine' you might get more hits. There is not a lot of scholarship available on the subject in English because queer historians are not falling over themselves to focus on Nazis doing the 'tolerating trans people to avoid anyone being gay' thing. It's not being actively suppressed, but it is skimmed over because who wants to publish that in today's environment? So Google translate has to be your friend.
This is just a reddit comment but it has links to good German sources at the end:
r/AskHistorians - Comment by u/commiespaceinvader on ”Were there any transgender people in the Holocaust?”
2 votes and 4 comments so far on Reddit
www.reddit.com
Transvestite pass - Wikipedia
Transvestitenschein – Wikipedia
(look at the difference in length between those two Wikipedia articles. The English one does not specifically mention the Third Reich at all although it does admit that the certificates were issued until the 1950s. The English version also seems to downplay the number of certificates issued. I wonder what was going on behind the scenes in the edits.)
I am definitely not an expert on this subject and I would be interested to know if the certificates really were issued to crossdressing heterosexuals (as in, AGPs) as well, as the English wikipedia article seems to say.
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this shit and "uterus transplants are as important as abortion rights!!!" is the malest fucking garbage i have ever seen.
"freedom to control sexual autonomy people are trying to take is licherally equivalent to me getting what i want!!!"
someone ask them if uterus transplants for trans women are more important than uterus transplants to barren women. i have a feeling the answer gon' be "yes, because i deserve it more."