Disaster Condo collapse in Miami-Dade kills at least one; search and rescue combing through rubble

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Condo collapse in Surfside kills at least one; search and rescue combing through rubble​

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/miami-beach/article252324218.html (archive)

A 12-story oceanfront condo tower partially collapsed early Thursday morning in the town of Surfside, spurring a massive search-and-rescue effort with dozens of rescue crews from across Miami-Dade and Broward counties.

The ocean-facing portion of Champlain Towers South Condo, completed in 1981 with more than 100 units at 8777 Collins Ave., collapsed around 2 a.m., leaving a heap of rubble.

Surfside Mayor Charles Burkett confirmed that 10 people were treated for injuries on-site, two transported to the hospital, and at least one person has died. Authorities anticipate more fatalities.

A little after 8 a.m., Frank Rollason, director of Miami-Dade Emergency Management, said emergency workers believe they have cleared all survivors from inside the tower, which has more than 130 apartments. He said more than 70 of them have been destroyed or damaged.

“Everyone who is alive is out of the building,” he told the Miami Herald.

Several people have gathered at the town’s community center, where the Red Cross is assisting those who are waiting to hear about missing loved ones. Burkett said the building manager does not keep a log of residents, but logs visitors. First responders are using the list to try and account for the missing.

“They brought dogs who can sniff for survivors in the rubble,” said Surfside Commissioner Eliana Salzhauer. “They aren’t turning up very much. No one is celebrating anyone being pulled out.”

Salzhauer said the building was beginning its 40-year recertification, and the building’s roof was being redone, but it is unknown if any construction activity contributed to the disaster.
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Rescuers were desperately trying to get a trapped child out of the garage at the Champlain Towers shortly after 8 a.m. Thursday, who was discovered by a Miami-Dade Fire Rescue dog.

The searchers believe the child was with his or her parents, who are deceased, Rollason said.

“It’s bad,” he said.

In another case, Rollason said, rescuers saved a mother and her child, but the mother’s leg had to be amputated to get her out.

“We got some people out. They had to cut away railings,” he said.

Because workers haven’t determined the stability yet of the collapsed structure, they haven’t yet started to remove the pile of rubble that remains attached to the building.

Rollason said the building to the south, which is newer, is far enough away that it appears to be fine for now. The building on the south, he said, is older and has been evacuated. The Solara Surfside hotel, which is next to the tower, has also been evacuated.

Santo Mejil, 50, was roused out of bed when his wife called from a unit on the ninth floor of the south condo, one of three buildings that make up the Champlain Towers complex. She is an overnight caretaker for an elderly disabled woman.

“She said she heard a big explosion. It felt like an earthquake,” Mejil told the Miami Herald.

As he recounted rushing over to the beach from their home near Miami International Airport, his phone rang. It was his wife.

“They’re bringing you down?” he said. Tears welled in his eyes. “Thank God.”

Adriana Chi waited outside Jackson’s Ryder Trauma Center shortly before 7 on Thursday morning, worried about two relatives inside and another she can’t locate.

She said her brother, sister-and-law and teenage niece live in a ninth-floor unit there. She was able to speak to her niece ahead of her emergency surgery at Ryder. She said the 16-year-old recalled being awoken by her mother to a shaking building, then had the sensation of the floor giving way.

“She felt the building shake,” said Chi, a nurse practitioner. “Then everything collapsed.”
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Chi said her sister-in-law, a psychologist, was brought to Ryder as well but she doesn’t know the whereabouts of her brother, a lawyer.

Chi said her father has owned the unit for about 30 years. She said leaks were a chronic problem, leading to a nagging worry for her.

“The last time I was there, I looked at him and I said: ‘I am serious,’” she recalled between tearful cellphone calls by hospital’s driveway and hugs with other family members gathered outside. “‘This building is going to collapse.’”

Burkett, the mayor, noted that the building is not as old as many in the surrounding area, and that “there is no reason for a building to come down like that.” There are one-foot gaps between stories where there used to be 10, he said.

“This doesn’t happen,” he said. “I’ve been here my whole life, and I haven’t seen anything like this happen.”

When asked if he believed the collapse was an accident, Burkett wouldn’t say.

“What I can say is that a building has fallen down .... I expect that this building is not salvageable at this point.”

He said there had been construction work on the building’s roof over the last 30 days, and that “we’re certainly going to look at that.”
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A South Florida-based home insurance inspector who asked not to be named said she had visited Champlain Towers in February 2020 to verify impact windows and doors for a client.

She said the building is reinforced concrete and should not have collapsed the way it did.

“As someone who has been in this business for years, it defies logic,” she said. “It defies everything that we know.”

The area around 88th Street and Collins and Harding avenues have been shut down for several blocks. Dozens of fire engines and rescue vehicles are lining the streets. According to the county’s fire rescue call list, 113 Fire-Rescue units are on scene.

The building is a block north of Miami Beach city limits. The town of Surfside runs along Collins Avenue, south of Bal Harbour. Condos and motels line Collins Avenue.

Miami-Dade Fire Rescue has set up a family reunification center. Anyone looking to connect with loved ones from Champlain Towers can call 305-614-1819.
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This happened around 2am. There is way more than one dead.
 
Sinkhole was my first thought. It could've been weakening under the foundations for a while, and the concrete held up for longer than a wood beam suburban house would've, until it finally let loose.

This happened in Tampa:
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And two homes in Florida:
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I mean with the foundations required for highrises, I could see a sinkhole getting bigger and bigger, until it finally gave way. And until they move the rubble they might not see it.
Apparently in the Tampa one a guy was sleeping in his room when that portion of the house collapsed. They weren't even able to recover his body, he went straight from his bed to his grave in a matter of a few seconds.
 
That works out to just 6.2cm (2.4in), which to my mind isn't enough to cause this. Of course, it may have accelerated recently for some reason and who knows if they've been monitoring it closely in the past few years.
If it was a uniform 2.4 inches total for the entire property, I would agree with you. If the slabs of the new homes being built that I was in most days are anything to go by, though, it doesn't take much difference in elevation from one side of a slab to the other to get it to crack. (Granted, that could as likely be shitty concrete as shitty grading of the lot. I dunno. I'm just some fucking sped, not an engineer.)

When I saw the video of the collapse, I initially thought I was looking at controlled demolition, the way it just pancaked like that...
 
If the slabs of the new homes being built that I was in most days are anything to go by, though, it doesn't take much difference in elevation from one side of a slab to the other to get it to crack.
You can crack the concrete around the rebar reinforcements and it will still hold up fairly well for a while: we're not talking slabs sitting on the ground, after all: they reinforce that shit pretty well. It's not going to fail immediately if there are cracks from settling. If it was tipping over, though..

When I saw the video of the collapse, I initially thought I was looking at controlled demolition, the way it just pancaked like that...
Concrete and steel buildings falling down tend to have a certain look to them. Who knew? It's pretty basic: the first few floors fall ten or so feet, which adds a ton of inertia to them. The floor above the break can't hold up the weight of multiple storeys accelerating downwards into it, so it gives way. Then the next, and the next, and suddenly you've got a bunch of dead people and detritus.
 
If it was a uniform 2.4 inches total for the entire property, I would agree with you. If the slabs of the new homes being built that I was in most days are anything to go by, though, it doesn't take much difference in elevation from one side of a slab to the other to get it to crack. (Granted, that could as likely be shitty concrete as shitty grading of the lot. I dunno. I'm just some fucking sped, not an engineer.)

When I saw the video of the collapse, I initially thought I was looking at controlled demolition, the way it just pancaked like that...
What if it was a bomb… who knows it’ll be crazy to see what actually happened.

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"Will you miss your neighbors?"

"No, fuck my neighbors! I miss my shekels!"

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You couldn't even make this shit up if you tried.
I knew a guy who worked for a bank in their credit card department. He told me that sometimes people would get checks sent out because they returned items or had credit. Anyways, there was this time where this guy insisted on getting a check sent out to him and by his pushiness he assumed it was a lot of money. When he actually looked it up it turned out to be like 10 cents. He informed the customer who still really wanted a check mailed out to him. He obliged. Then he had to mute himself because he started laughing when he realized the guys name was so on the nose: Daniel Goldstein.
 

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"Will you miss your neighbors?"

"No, fuck my neighbors! I miss my shekels!"

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You couldn't even make this shit up if you tried.
My Chris Chan silver shekelz are more important than those pesky neighbours. Anyone who lives/lived in one of these shitty cockroach cubical high rises would love to have their neighbours sleeping with the fish.

Anyway, welcome to the Province of the People's Republic of Dumbfuckistan Amurikkka, where buildings collapse due to shitty engineering.
 
I'm gonna make a little dox hole here.

The name of the building is "Champlain Towers South" if anyone wants to join me in sleuthing.







This tweet didn't age well:



From the first website, the building looks old compared to the neighbours.

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You can tell by the design.

I present to you, 8777 Collins Avenue, Surfside, Florida, view of the side of the building that yeeted itself today:

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In my layfag's opinion? Looks ghetto as fuck, especially looking at the buildings further north. Not sure when this shot was taken, but the sister building was apparently demolished a while ago. To your left (south) is where the former south tower was, but was apparently ripped down. If you go on Google Earth and take a look at the buildings further north on Collins Avenue, you can see just from the roofs that most of them are far better maintained. Also, the balconies appear to be a half dozen different colors, a red flag of a HOA/land owner that doesn't give a flying fuck about the place and hasn't for a very long time. The place looks like there is literal fucking mold growing on the roof ffs. Provided the cops can figure out who owns the land/HOA besides a hall of mirrors of LLC's, somebody is gonna go to fucking prison, especially if lots of Jews lost lives/property. Orthodox Jews play hardball.

It's very old, because this building is new. Check the pool:

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On Tucker tonight he straight coyly references 9/11 in his interview with the mayor
That's weird, on The Today Show they were interviewing the Mayor and he compared the buildings collapse to "That Trade Center event". Which is the oddest way I've ever heard somebody refer to 9/11 since Ilhan Omar's comments.

Also, found this two week old listing of a unit at the Champlain. The unit might have made it, considering it faced town and not the beach.
https://www.affordablehomesandcondos.com/Surfside/8777-Collins-Ave-405-Surfside-FL-33154-A11047615
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The final 12 seconds of security camera footage from a resident who was out that night. Source. This must have been from the section that collapsed a few seconds later.
 
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Is it me, or does that condo tower look Third World to the extreme? It looks like one of those ancient concrete high rises that you find in the Middle East, places that are standing basically thanks to inertia. Comparing it to the newer, better maintained high rises on the shore from street level makes it look even more horrible. I'm not surprised that poking it with some otherwise innocuous repairs caused it to go full an hero. It's like when California was demolishing old brick school buildings in the 60s due to earthquake concerns, and in at least one instance a two story building from 1926 came crashing down after it was poked with a bulldozer.
 
Forty years would mean that even when it was new and up to code it was a much, much weaker code. Might have been on the forefront of the cheap construction that got ass raped but Hurricane Andrew
 
This happened in Florida before, in the early 1980s. Bad construction methods. This was an over 40-years old building. The whole "Well, the US is now turning into the 3rd world" because of one building collapse ain't it. There's once in a generation and then there's "this shit happens often enough that there's multiple videos of brand new high-rise apartment buildings collapsing" like they have in China.
 
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