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Reminds me of the Gayle Newland case from Terf Island. At the time I thought it was too ridiculous to be true. Not anymore.

From the sentencing report: "Your history of low self esteem and blurred gender lines is important". Hmm...

A minor tremor before the catastrophic troonquake?

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they had sex 10 times before she figured out that it's actually a girl who's fucking her?!
this whole story is incredibly outlandish and weird
 
Sugabelly is incredibly based. I think what we're about to see is an internal schism within woke SJW spaces between the troons and black women.

Not only for drama, but for practical purposes, this is all a very good thing. I want them to draw a line in the sand and pick a side, then fight each other. If various idpol movements turn on each other they're not attacking normies who have fuck all to do with any of this bollocks.
Thing is, these Nigerian feminists are outside the Western woke culture. Inside the woke establishment, the people in charge know very well that the point of the movement is not to be consistent or logical but to monopolize power. If a fight between black and trans appears to be brewing, they'll call up fixers on both sides to calm it down and keep it out of the public eye. If there's resistance to any aspect of wokeism in countries where it doesn't have much sway, the string-pullers will make sure the people under the woke umbrella don't hear about it.
 
Thank you. That's good. And it was posted early in this tread as well.

In many ways I think much of this troon madness can be traced back to Michfest.

never understimate the rage of a narc who's been told "no".

they had sex 10 times before she figured out that it's actually a girl who's fucking her?!
this whole story is incredibly outlandish and weird

never underestimate the desperation to avoid the reality that they've been nigerian-prince'd of the catfished.
 
Even for the conquest of "trans rights", they actually sound far more rapey than a misogynistic incel
Well, keep in mind that a lot of them are misogynistic incels who got sucked into the incel-GAMP-AGP pipeline, so it makes sense in a way. I still don't get why gaydens are so rapey towards gay men, though. Maybe because so many of them are fujos and yaoi has a tendency to be rapey.
 
I did not know of this writer before, and looked at her Twitter bio. Apparently she is qualified to write about the subject because she uses she/they pronouns, which of course makes her just as trans as anyone else and not just a straight woman trying to be interesting. After seeing her online presence, I think the Vox editors handed her this piece rather than any of their more prominent writers because they knew any backlash would be tempered by pity.
Aja has been involved in every major fandom scandal for decades and, hilariously, used to be a Kevin Spacey stan. If you've ever read the Cassandra Clare/Harry Potter wank, she's in it. Funny that she's now useful for bashing JKR.

Trans activists love telling us about how they're so different from "cis" people and how they're "trans", but the moment someone who doesn't identify as trans repeats that they're trans and that makes their experience different they completely lose the plot and emphasize how they're the "same" as the "cis". Chimamanda didn't do anything wrong, in fact, she was highlighting how people don't really respect differing perspectives anymore and that social media was exacerbating this problem even further. You can't shove your beliefs down peoples' throats and then cry when someone criticizes you. That's not how meaningful debate works. Adichie's been quite supportive of transgender people and she doesn't even strike me as a "radical feminist" or gender critical.
Chimamanda is expressing the idea at the basis of identity politics: intersectionality. That a trans woman may experience discrimination on the basis of being a woman AND trans AND maybe homophobia on top of that. The fact that they are denying this goes against the entire project of identifying privilege and bias, so they are shooting their own theory in the foot.

More 'genital preference' insanity.
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Yep, only when the last cissie falls to his knees to suck limp troon cock, only then will trans acceptance be completed...which will be never ever ever happen so cope, seethe, dilate & 41% yourself.

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What can you even say about this tweet?? It's batshit insane troon bullshit created by the twisted mind of a subhuman degenerate.

They are so aggressively rapey. It wouldn't matter if you were born a woman and had all the right parts, you are so curdled with envy and bitterness, no one can stand to listen to you, much less sleep with you.

I mean, her initial tweet has over 1K RTs and she's got over 1K new subscribers, plus there are a bunch of follow-ups on it. Responses I see are overwhelmingly positive, but I didn't try and hunt down the chickenshit "s*gabelly" type tweets trying to evade searches.

I think the reason you aren't seeing a lot of tantrums over it on Tumblr is because what can anyone even say? Two formidable and respected black Nigerian feminists dragging troonism in 2021, nobody can say a word. Trans garbage is still going strong, but 2020-2021 has been all about race, so people are shit scared to say anything against them (and for once I'm LOVING it).

BTW, responses critical to Suga/Chimamanda on twitter tend to look something like this

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Hedging, doesn't make any actual argument (because what can you even say??), doesn't even @ her, makes it impossible for anyone to reply to, lmao. Cowards
I couldn't find much sugabelly backlash either, except for this account, which apparently joined her in a Clubhouse room yesterday to try to argue that feminism includes trans women. This person noped out after she'd said her piece, and her arguments got torn up, apparently. She is now saying debate itself is transphobic.

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So it seems it is stuck as an intra-Nigerian fight right now.
 
I think this phenomenon of troons "going native" specifically for Judaism is fascinating. This one may be a genuine heeb but then you've got fakers like ADF-Fuensalida (and quite a few others I've seen).

I think the reason for it is as follows. Troons are mostly autistic, and all of them have identity disorders. They desperately want to have some sort of concrete identity, something to belong to, something to be a part of. This is why troons are so weirdly in-your-face about their identity. If they are any kind of religious, political, ethnic or other identity, it's in their bio, in their username, in their banner, and in all their tweets. This troon makes sure to put Hebrew in his profile as much as possible (without ever actually interacting with other Hebrew speakers; could be Google Translate for all I know) and name-drop Jewish food as much as possible.

(I mean, if this person is such a devoted Jew and wants to make use of their Hebrew, why the fuck are they in Glasgow? Israel has a law stating that any Jew in the world can move there and become a citizen by right of return.)

This identity phenomenon occasionally manifests in the odd troon tradcath or Irish nationalist, but being white or Christian is passè. You want to be something *interesting* that gets you diversity points. We haven't quite crossed the trans-racial rubicon yet, so pretending to be black or Japanese is a bit of a faux pas (although there's a lot of troons pretending to be indigenous or native american!).

Converting to a religion works, but religion is also inherently conservative, backwards, and unfashionable. Of course there are several Muslim convert troons, but they all seem to just have a hijab fetish. For most troons, Islam would pose a problem for their personal lives, and of course they have no actual convictions, so that's right out the window. Paganism works, but the "community" is small, not well-recognized, and nobody takes it seriously because it's mostly fatties who smell like cat piss and sniff rocks. It's a fake identity and troons eventually realize that.

Judaism is *perfect*. It's a religion that most real Jews even don't believe in, and if you convert, you're mostly accepted as a full Jew. You can be both a diverse minority *and* white, and claim the victim card while having no actual obligations to the community, nor having experienced any actual Jewish history.

Honestly, when I see a Jewish troon these days, I just assume they're some middle-class white dude from Minnesota who wants to stand out.
I think this contains a large measure of truth. My current view is that an unusual pattern of (social) identity formation is the major reason why autism and associated comorbidities (acting as proxies for autistic psych.) is such a strong predictor of trooning even after you cut out all the other mediating factors. ADF is the extreme version of what I'm talking about here, but it also turns up in a moderated form as autistic metal heads (metal head->troon is an underremarked on pattern), fedora+trenchcoaters and in the general susceptibility for aesthetic political ideologies, subcultures etc..

Moreover, it explains why when the major mediating factors are present -- things like AGP related (yaoi/gay fanfic) fetishes, anxiety or depression, having mostly female (male) friends, ultra progressive environment, social isolation/failure etc., autists are so much more likely to troon out.

Conversely, it means that among troons, those that have stronger presence of mediating factors are actually less autistic despite said factors being themselves correlated with autistic traits. In particular, I'm quite certain that a kind of Berkson's Paradox exists between trooning out and intensity of fetishism. Troons who don't seem to score particularly high on the autism scale like (David) Torrey Peters are almost always absolutely consumed by their fetish, whereas the confused 14 year olds who have literally never jacked off almost invariably have an ASD or ADHD diagnosis plus clear social delays.



Also on a related note, I've been looking into budding "woman" author, David Torrey Peters (background for those who have not heard of him) -- who, even if not as great, is at least as much of a woman as Elena Ferrante from whom he (ironically) claims a measure of inspiration.
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This is Mr. Peters before he trooned out. They ended up divorcing, naturally. However, the relationship actually lasted quite a while and it seems to have been a pretty classic doomed AGP relationship in its broadest outlines.

She met him in Cameroon of all places, she was working at an NGO and he had some sort of grant to go there. This would have been comewhere around between 2003-5. My guess is that it was in 2004/5 based on her LinkedIn. He, naturally enough, didn't tell her about his fetish for the first 3 or so years of the relationship until she stumbled upon his alter ego 'Tori' (he says "she had noticed an online transgendered support group cached in my Web browser"). Depending on the date when they met this would be about 2007/8 which is also by chance the time he says that he 'came out' as a troon. Except he didn't really, he just kept cooming in private for the most part and living as a man just with odd admission here or there, I guess.

It was as a man that he got married in May 2009 (see above) and as a man that he got the essay that I sourced most of this information from, also in 2009. It seems that after she discovered his secret that she was able to tolerate, or even accept it, taking photos of him en femme. On Mr. Peters' telling she hadn't been all that happy to find out about his crossdressing to begin with:
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Maybe, they'd struck a bargain, or he'd given her some story about how he was definitely not going to troon out and that he deeply loves her or whatever. Quite possibly he could have even meant it, they often do, even if later they find that they don't care much about their own word.

The interesting twist in this story is that in 2007 she began her PhD at NWU and as a research topic this is what she stumbled on:
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Maybe her dissertation took a bit inspiration from a certain source?

In 2011/12, Mr. Peters finally decided he was bored of his cooming and began taking HRT. However, in 2014 his wife was still with him and she "dedicates" her dissertation to "D. Torrey Peters: my brilliant intellectual collaborator, my indispensable companion, and the love of my life." D for David, which I thought was a bit odd since by this point in time he'd been on HRT for a couple of years and why is he now D and not David? This strikes me as the period of attempted renegotiation, perhaps that's part of the story behind his starting HRT too? It's interesting, because in an interview he said this:
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He actually began writing his book Detransition Baby in 2016 which is also when he self-published his two coomer novellas. This, I believe, is when he actually trooned out. This also means there was a huge delay between him starting HRT and actually trooning out. My guess based on other similar cases that I've seen is that either (a) HRT was some sort of concession his wife granted him, just under the proviso that he didn't actually troon out. It might have been something they, or rather he just 'trialled' then stopped after a short period of time. Worth noting that there are two troons in his book and they're both autobiographical (in a hat tip towards M. Narcissus, his two self inserts are in a relationship). One of them detransitions in book, so maybe this is what that is effectively referencing. Or, (b) he went behind her back, since he wanted to take his coomer LARP to the next level, which then became (a) over time. Wives who love and don't want to 'lose' their husbands often get bent into this kind of situation only to find that their AGP husbands don't give quite enough fucks and just troon out anyways which ultimately proves intolerable. I assume this is basically what happened to Mr. & Mrs. Peters.

Would be nice to hear his ex-wife's side of the story though.

I've never heard of a transwoman good at and that regularly cooks, does childcare, bakes, sews, knits, cleans and is a general wellrounded homemaker. There are some that have a tradwife fetish but it doesn't look like they have the skills you would normally have to posses. Instead they occasionally wear Modcloth "vintage" dresses or anime maid costumes. I'm pretty opendminded and don't think anyone should perform any gender role they don't want but there is something repellent still about transwomen with all masculine interests with their legos and filthy living quarters sperging about vidya.
A small number of HSTSs are like that, so it's not totally unheard of. It's still rare though, because most HSTSs are relatively lower class and almost none have children (even adopted or step), hence they never get into that sort of stuff.

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No surprise every comment says transitioning is not the problem, the rest of the world is the problem.

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Good logic. If these people tried to cure you of cancer, they'd cut away the rest of your body while leaving the malignant cells
I often get the impression there's a sort of Catch-22 that happens for some troons, especially the more functional ones. When they fail to 'make it' by passing, being generally treated like the opposite sex, then they are obvious miserable, but they're also supported by fellow troons & other queer sorts. Once they 'make it' though they always want to leave behind the LGBTQIAAP2SP+ crowd, because (a) the disconnect in experiences that he mentions and (b) because, frankly put, these people are complete losers and guys like him are too 'good' for them. These days being some sort of sexual or gender minority is pretty much just a high school style parallel hierarchy; a way for people who otherwise lack social standing -- who aren't 'cool', to pretend otherwise. But when you come to sit at the top of any of these down market parallel hierarchies, then you can't help see that fact and so, you want out. You don't want to hang around with a bunch of tards and assorted cross-eyed blobs.

The tragedy for these troons is that there really isn't an out; being a troon naturally & inevitably closes off so many avenues and opportunities in life, it makes you a permanent stranger. So, even if you've achieved what you thought the preconditions for happiness, you still find yourself miserable, because now you're isolated. This seems to be a really common story for a lot of "successful" troons and probably the most common cause for regret, or at least wistful reflection.
 
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Well, keep in mind that a lot of them are misogynistic incels who got sucked into the incel-GAMP-AGP pipeline, so it makes sense in a way. I still don't get why gaydens are so rapey towards gay men, though. Maybe because so many of them are fujos and yaoi has a tendency to be rapey.

i'd hazard the theory that most of them don't even want to fuck gay men as much as they want the power of decrying "bigotry towards them" and being virulently and triumphantly homophobic.

i remember the account of a pre-all-op transman invited to a gay orgy, and how rejected she felt, and it made her feel embarassed, self-conscious, and miserable. i'd posit that'd be the reaction of a true believer of being a For Real Gay when rejected by the for real gays. they wouldn't be catty and slur-dropping and insistent gay men are obligated to fuck them, they'd be quiet and ashamed about being rejected.

white gen z yaoiboi gaydens, however, the as-far-as-i-can-tell massive majority of the boxer-ceiling-kill-all-fags twitcourse, generally only date the other gaydens.

again i feel it's helpful to define this with japanese fetishry, as japs have been so repressed for so long that their sexual and paraphiliac fantasies have resolved into a catalogue of distinct and specific genres. in particular, i'd posit the gayden phenomenon as the intersection of class s pseudo-lesbianism and the consumption of yaoi, both phenomenons the japanese associate with phases of teenage girls.

both class s relationships and yaoi have very little to do with actual homosexuality. i'd say they're basically safe spaces for pubescent girls to explore romantic intimacy and sexual desire in a way that doesn't involve the daunting interaction with real boys. the appeal of yaoi in particular is as far as i can understand a sexual fantasy that's safer for them because it has nothing to do with their own bodies, allowing them to disconnect from their own discomforts and complexes over their puberty and early-post pubescence. sounds very much like the "gender dysphoria" craze that has so many middle-and-high-school girls suddenly trooning out, no?

basically, my assumption is that the huge majority of gaydens have mistaken a phase many girls go through of relationships with other girls and attraction to yaoi fantasies (neither of which are actual lesbianism or actually anything to do with gay sex) before they settle down to feeling comfortable enough to just be straight as instead their "true identity" being a gay softboi. (and never, ever a man. not coincidentally, women generally seem to identify with the softer, feminine ukes in yaoi.) expect an absolute epidemic of them realizing their attraction extends to straight cis men but defending that dating them doesn't make them any less For Real Gay because reasons.

so, given their insistence they're For Real Gay Men and insistence real gay men should want them yet themselves only seem to actually want Cute MLM Pure Yaoiboi relationships in actual practice, i'd assume the gleeful boxer ceiling vitriol has these origins:

  • they're addicted to that sjw hit of being Most Righteous. it's an outrage addiction as much as fox news; they always need to chase that next twitstorm and goalposts moving for who is to be castigated en masse as The Newest Oppressor.
  • in particular, they've finally escaped their label as enemy #1 of the woque: White Cis Straight Woman. (they'll shit-talk the white cis straight man, but you never see the same levels of directed hatred, piling-on, and demanded consequences as those for females who refuse to slavishly take the abuse and meekly handmaiden.)
  • so it's probably a real fucking rush to finally be the victimest of victims yourself. now finally you can aim all that nastiness and derision and scorn at those (well, a subsection of those) who constantly abused you online because their oppression freed them from consequences. hence the absolute palpable glee when being homophobic, exultance in their use of slurs, and insistence that ah-ha, now it's them who suffer the actual -phobia so they can be the wielders of the malicious generalized insults and slurs with immunity to consequence now.

transbians aim for lesbians because they only want pussy but more than that need their AGP fetish validated. they'll gleefully call themselves dykes and imply homosexuality is transphobic, but they don't overtly attack and use the slurs to flippantly abuse lesbians as a group at nearly the same rate. that's because their true motive is to eventually convince the lesbians to suck their girldicks, and alienating their targets is bad strategy.

gaydens aim for gaydens but shit on gay men constantly because now they have the tool of i can say it to abuse a class of people it's "acceptable" for transmen to abuse for that hit of sjw nastiness. they get to scold them over liking dick for that hit of sjw purity and self-righteousness. because ackshually it's punching up, now, they get to gleefully violate what was most taboo for their previous class: insulting the victim class and dropping slurs.

i don't think most gaydens are ultimately interested in getting gay men the same way transbians are lesbians. they're interested in being rejected by gay men so they'll have those oppression points for the free rein to scorn and abuse those gay men they tell us they like so much. winning gay men over isn't the actual goal, hence why they do basically everything they can to insult and alienate them.

a real gay man is actually in violation of the yaoi fantasy they pursue. it's about a woman's imaginary gay men, which not-at-all coincidentally is also the definition of any gayden.
 
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PinkNews Group is sponsored by several companies. Together with Mermaids UK, and Stonewall UK, I think it’s safe to say that Pink News informs a lot of the UK trans discourse. These three entities make up “The Trifecta of Shite”.

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Why did you draw a shitty arrow in MS Paint pointing towards the Pfizer logo?
…I have my reasons (archive link: https://archive.md/mCvCI).

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Orgovyx is a puberty blocker.

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This is how Pink News report on trans issues. No finesse, and no subtleties.

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It’s as if they were sponsored by a large pharmaceutical company.
 
I think this contains a large measure of truth. My current view is that an unusual pattern of (social) identity formation is the major reason why autism and associated comorbidities (acting as proxies for autistic psych.) is such a strong predictor of trooning even after you cut out all the other mediating factors. ADF is the extreme version of what I'm talking about here, but it also turns up in a moderated form as autistic metal heads (metal head->troon is an underremarked on pattern), fedora+trenchcoaters and in the general susceptibility for aesthetic political ideologies, subcultures etc..

Moreover, it explains why when the major mediating factors are present -- things like AGP related (yaoi/gay fanfic) fetishes, anxiety or depression, having mostly female (male) friends, ultra progressive environment, social isolation/failure etc., autists are so much more likely to troon out.

Conversely, it means that among troons, those that have stronger presence of mediating factors are actually less autistic despite said factors being themselves correlated with autistic traits. In particular, I'm quite certain that a kind of Berkson's Paradox exists between trooning out and intensity of fetishism. Troons who don't seem to score particularly high on the autism scale like (David) Torrey Peters are almost always absolutely consumed by their fetish, whereas the confused 14 year olds who have literally never jacked off almost invariably have an ASD or ADHD diagnosis plus clear social delays.



Also on a related note, I've been looking into budding "woman" author, David Torrey Peters (background for those who have not heard of him) -- who, even if not as great, is at least as much of a woman as Elena Ferrante from whom he (ironically) claims a measure of inspiration.
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This is Mr. Peters before he trooned out. They ended up divorcing, naturally. However, the relationship actually lasted quite a while and it seems to have been a pretty classic doomed AGP relationship in its broadest outlines.

She met him in Cameroon of all places, she was working at an NGO and he had some sort of grant to go there. This would have been comewhere around between 2003-5. My guess is that it was in 2004/5 based on her LinkedIn. He, naturally enough, didn't tell her about his fetish for the first 3 or so years of the relationship until she stumbled upon his alter ego 'Tori' (he says "she had noticed an online transgendered support group cached in my Web browser"). Depending on the date when they met this would be about 2007/8 which is also by chance the time he says that he 'came out' as a troon. Except he didn't really, he just kept cooming in private for the most part and living as a man just with odd admission here or there, I guess.

It was as a man that he got married in July 2009 (see above) and as a man that he got the essay that I sourced most of this information from, also in 2009. It seems that after she discovered his secret that she was able to tolerate, or even accept it, taking photos of him en femme. On Mr. Peters' telling she hadn't been all that happy to find out his crossdressing to begin with:
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Maybe, they'd struck a bargain, or he'd given her some story about how he was definitely not going to troon out and that he deeply loves her or whatever. Quite possibly he could have even meant it, they often do, even if later they find that they don't care much about their own word.

The interesting twist in this story is that in 2007 she began her PhD at NWU and as a research topic this is what she stumbled on:
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Maybe her dissertation took a bit inspiration from a certain source?

In 2011/12, Mr. Peters finally decided he was bored of his cooming and began taking HRT. However, in 2014 his wife was still with him and she "dedicates" her dissertation to "D. Torrey Peters: my brilliant intellectual collaborator, my indispensable companion, and the love of my life." D for David, which I thought was a bit odd since by this point in time he'd been on HRT for a couple of years and why is he now D and not David? This strikes me as the period of attempted renegotiation, perhaps that's part of the story behind his starting HRT too? It's interesting, because in an interview he said this:
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He actually began writing his book Detransition Baby in 2016 which is also when he self-published his two coomer novellas. This, I believe, is when he actually trooned out. This also means there was a huge delay between him starting HRT and actually trooning out. My guess based on other similar cases that I've seen is that either (a) HRT was some sort of concession his wife granted him, just under the proviso that he didn't actually troon out, or (b) he went behind her back, since he wanted to take his coomer LARP to the next level, which then became (a) over time. Wives who love and don't want to 'lose' their husbands often get bent into this kind of situation only to find that their AGP husbands don't give quite enough fucks and just troon out anyways which ultimately proves intolerable. I assume this is basically what happened to Mr. & Mrs. Peters.

Would be nice to hear his ex-wife's side of the story though.


A small number of HSTSs are like that, so it's not totally unheard of. It's still rare though, because most HSTSs are relatively lower class and almost none have children (even adopted or step), hence they never get into that sort of stuff.


I often get the impression there's a sort of Catch-22 that happens for some troons, especially the more functional ones. When they fail to 'make it' by passing, being generally treated like the opposite sex, then they are obvious miserable, but they're also supported by fellow troons & other queer sorts. Once they 'make it' though they always want to leave behind the LGBTQIAAP2SP+ crowd, because (a) the disconnect in experiences that he mentions and (b) because, frankly put, these people are complete losers and guys like him are too 'good' for them. These days being some sort of sexual or gender minority is pretty much just a high school style parallel hierarchy; a way for people who otherwise lack social standing -- who aren't 'cool', to pretend otherwise. But when you come to sit at the top of any of these down market parallel hierarchies, then you can't help see that fact and so, you want out. You don't want to hang around with a bunch of tards and assorted cross-eyed blobs.

The tragedy for these troons is that there really isn't an out; being a troon naturally & inevitably closes off so many avenues and opportunities in life, it makes you a permanent stranger. So, even if you've achieved what you thought the preconditions for happiness, you still find yourself miserable, because now you're isolated. This seems to be a really common story for a lot of "successful" troons and probably the most common cause for regret, or at least wistful reflection.
I've been curious about Peters' backstory for a while. His writing is not good. The way he writes about his wife here and the female characters in his novels is very creepy, like they're just this distant specimen he's observing and not a human being he, or the male narrators, can understand. Even the divorce is just a fuzzy thing that's happening; he can barely pay attention to it over how hard he's cooming.

Also looks like he got FFS - his chin isn't QUITE as big now.
 
PinkNews Group is sponsored by several companies. Together with Mermaids UK, and Stonewall UK, I think it’s safe to say that Pink News informs a lot of the UK trans discourse. These three entities make up “The Trifecta of Shite”.

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Why did you draw a shitty arrow in MS Paint pointing towards the Pfizer logo?
…I have my reasons (archive link: https://archive.md/mCvCI).

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Orgovyx is a puberty blocker.

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This is how Pink News report on trans issues. No finesse, and no subtleties.

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It’s as if they were sponsored by a large pharmaceutical company.
What a nightmare we’ve created…
 
Lets just take a minute to appreciate that while he may never know the hardships and reality of pregnancy, at least he's trying

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Apparently this picture was released as a commitment to losing weight, so I'm torn. Troon superstar #1 going hamplanet and ODing on food would be some nice public exposure for comorbidities, but I would enjoy wokies getting caught in a trap defending his weight gain as not a sign of mental health decline, by citing his weightloss (thus admitting obesity is bad.)
I was told femboys aren't like the other troons, they are just feminine boys who like to play dress up. They aren't as bad and disgusting, there is no tranny-femboy overlap. Yet they call themselves "girl" and "mommy", abuse HRT, e-beg for tranny surgeries, self-identity as lesbians for being poly with other trannies, try to pass off their greasy combovers as uwu girl bangs, take pics in their disgusting rooms. What's the difference?

femboys apparently boast about their ability to "pass" better because they are gay men who don't suffer from AGP. Who told this lie?

Repost from this femboy thread, not my OC.
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"i'll babysit your kids for free"
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>I'm not a girl, I'm a trap femboy
>e-begs for 30K worth of tranny surgeries becasue muh anime girl dysphoria

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Some dank OC

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I won't defend femboys or all the fucked up behavior they share with troons, but I'll say I feel more comfortable with the existence of their perversion, because it's innately less insane. It's like government/organizational corruption. It exists in all countries, probably pretty deeply, but generally in worse countries to live in it's just blatant, while in better countries it's covered up. It really is a huge difference as weird as it sounds. Femboys are crossing plenty of lines, but they're grounded in a reality that they're playing pretend. Troonery is just batshit at its core, forced mass denial of fundamental reality openly normalized.

Also, a lot of the examples here specifically overlap with troondom, which makes me wonder how much troondom has made femboys worse.
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I'm going to press x to doubt here. It seems like this person pulled this information out of their arse. No sources or data given to cite their claims. I tried doing a bit of research on Google Scholar and found nothing. Could someone send some actual statistics please?
The marriage stat is mostly true - it's about 40-50% and it makes sense if you count all the shitty year-long marriages and serial marriages and all that. People are fucking stupid and they get married for terrible reasons and get divorced for terrible reasons. I kind of hate this topic, because it somehow ends up one of the more inane rightoid-vs-wokieleftoid fights (leftover from the 90s) where the stats get used both ways by both sides that fantasize over parts of histories and cultures that weren't that great (oversimplified example - 1950s suburban America vs. tribal "community raised" children - pass on both.) But I digress on the tranny thread.

We don't know shit about detransitioners because no one studies it or is even allowed to study it - it gets blocked at universities and gender clinics don't keep contact with their clients. A big reason Tavistock lost against Keira Bell was all the shit they admitted they did in court, such as not keeping track of their former patients.
i don't have the evidence on hand, but i bet ya shekels to sufganiyot there's been repeated trans efforts to get /r/detrans shut down for its dangerous noncompliance.

they actively fuck with the statistics then cite them.

edit: looked it up and yep on the calls for censorship and they even managed get it banned for a spate.

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eVeRyThInG iS fInE iN oCeAnIa i mean the statistics are just so low
r/detrans was temporarily banned during that banwave like a year ago, but was quickly reinstated (to much troon chagrin.) Allegedly it was only banned because Reddit used a user-overlap script thing, and banned subs with adjecent user counts to the bad ones. There's also a whole thing about it involving the reddit troon cabal with drewiepoodle (Twitter thread), but I think this is the third time we've covered this issue with this exact image since I've been here. Forum format is a bit awkward for this stuff, but I don't have a better idea. Kiwikipedia?

Edit: One more addition to my sperg post, @Rotter don't forget gsk - GlaxoSmithKline, another pharma company, and at Bupa too - health insurance. How long before Pinknews starts shilling for getting stuff from private insurance?
 
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