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Never can guarantee the weather of course until it happens, but here is the early prognosis:

Warm but cloudy weekend with low chance of race day rain in France​

Posted on 17th June 2021, 7:18 | Written by Hazel Southwell

The French Grand Prix is expected to be overcast for much of the weekend, with a slight chance of rain showers on race day.

Forecasts indicate Friday will be the sunniest of the three days of running at Paul Ricard. The morning session will see relatively heavy cloud but this should turn sunny by second practice.

Saturday will follow a similar pattern of cloud cover, lifting somewhat after third practice but still relatively heavy ahead of the qualifying hour.

Race day will be much as the previous two days – overcast and with temperatures up 31C – but with an increased chance of rain. At present only a slight chance of rain is forecast during the race, and this may well change over the course of the next three days0

Overall temperatures should be relatively high at Paul Ricard. The mercury will peak at around 30C on Friday and Saturday just before the afternoon sessions on each day.

Wind conditions on Friday will be a little stronger than on Saturday, with speeds up to 30kph and gusts of up to 55kph. It should be calmer for qualifying, with top speeds of 20kph and gusts of 40kph.

The most striking differences between this weekend and F1’s last visit to the track two years ago will be the cloud cover. Although air temperatures are set to be higher this year, having peaked at 27C during the race at the 2019 French Grand Prix, all sessions that year were in sunny weather.

Expect considerably lower track temperatures than the 50-57C seen over practice, qualifying and the race in 2019. From this weekend’s race teams have to complay with new, stringent checks of their tyre temperatures and pressures, and they will have to keep a close watch on changes in the atmospheric conditions.

Just caught this one too:

Hamilton and Bottas swap chassis ahead of French Grand Prix​

Posted on 17th June 2021, 13:52 | Written by Dieter Rencken and Hazel Southwell

Both Mercedes drivers will use different chassis for this weekend’s French Grand Prix.

Valtteri Bottas said the change was planned and not a consequence of his poor result at the previous race in Baku.

Following the Azerbaijan Grand Prix, Bottas said he was puzzled by his lack of pace and that the “most logical” explanation was a problem with his car. He confirmed today he will have a different chassis at Paul Ricard, which is one the team has used previously.

“It’s not a new chassis,” Bottas explained. “It’s different and it was always planned for me to change to a different chassis at this point.”

Bottas has taken over chassis number six, which team mate Lewis Hamilton has used since the beginning of
the season. Hamilton will take over chassis number four.

A Mercedes spokesperson confirmed the change had been made in order to ensure their available chassis complete similar mileages. Bottas last changed his chassis following the Emilia-Romagna Grand Prix, where he was involved in a high-speed collision with George Russell which severely damaged his car.

Bottas is hopeful the W12 will work better for him and Lewis Hamilton at Paul Ricard than it did in Baku and Monaco. He believes his sub-par weekend in Azerbaijan was due to “a combination of of many things.”

“We saw that in Monaco, for me, I managed to find the set-up and the confidence and get the tyres to work and Lewis didn’t,” Bottas explained. “It almost felt like vice-versa in Baku. There was quite a big difference towards the end of the weekend with the set-up. And now I can say that probably the direction I took, we took as a team, wasn’t ideal. Some other small things combined.

“I think our car is quite on a knife-edge on those kind of tracks. But I think at least the next few tracks it’s a bit more normal and hopefully we can get a reasonable set-up and and that it’s not that easy to to go into the wrong direction.”
 
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So if Hamilton suddenly has a breakdown and Bottas not then it's the car's fault? Kinda reminds me of the 2016 season when the crew of Hamilton and Rosberg was switched and suddenly Hamilton had all those mechanical breakdowns that plagued Rosberg before.
 
Working from home today, and being slack so watching FP2 now. Missed FP1 but read the analysis.

Two interesting things going on so far, this Mercedes chassis switch and the soft tyres.

After FP3 tomorrow, I may use the joker and clean out my Fantasy teams and use FP3 as a guide to my picks. I had Ferrari sprinkled in both teams and they may be getting turfed!

So far though, there is small potential for a not totally straightforward typical race. As always, we shall see come checkered flag.
 
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They need to play more of these teams/FIA convo, some gold shit there.

Merc says it rips up the car if you go "three foot too wide". Then why go 3 feet wide? Why didn't you go 3 feet wide at Baku? Oh right, because you would damage your car. Same thing that happened today! Funny that!

And I love the snark reply by the FIA dude, "Well, it's a bit more than 3 foot, but I'll have a look, thank you." End of convo,:story:
 
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Who would win?
The most ridiculously overpowered team in F1 history -or- one yellow bumpy boi?
 
Slightly OT, but Sabine Schmitz now has a corner named after her at the Nurburgring.

Sabine-Schmitz-Kurve is the very first corner on the track, where the GP circuit connects up to the Nordschleife.

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I seem to have some brake dust in my eye...
 
Formula Regional European Championship is racing at Zandvoort this weekend, link to the Qualy session:
EuroFormula Open racing at Spa, link to Q:
SuperFormula is racing at Sugo, link to Qualy and Race:
Apparently you can watch the DTM series here. I just stumbled across it, but it isn't seeming to tell me I need to pay. Qualifying reply is working:
I am watching this link currently for F1 Qualifying. A bunch of popups before getting the stream to load, but watching it since midway thru FP3 without issue:
 
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Well that's going to be quite a bit of inspection on the rear suspension and related structures. I wouldn't be suprised if that caused some stress fractures to a few bits.

Nice Mick out of Q1 and out qualifying the Williams all be it after smacking a barrier and unable to take part in Q2.
 
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Who would win?
The most ridiculously overpowered team in F1 history -or- one yellow bumpy boi?
Not to mention F1 drivers in the 80's, 90's and even early 2000's were not so cuddled by the pit radio instructions then today. Can you imagine Hamilton or Vettel in the early 90's competing with Senna, Mansell or Prost?

Why is it that we are getting so many Red flags recently? And Stroll on P19 again. will we have a new magic moment with Hamilton tomorrow? and two exploding Pirelli's again?
 
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Why is it that we are getting so many Red flags recently? And Stroll on P19 again. will we have a new magic moment with Hamilton tomorrow? and two exploding Pirelli's again?

It's to stop arguments about if a driver has slowed enough for the flags, can't say I disagree. Drivers have been pushing how fast under yellows you can go since forever and even an agreement to run slow through the first chicane to honour a dead marshal was ignored by some teams.
 
Can you imagine Hamilton or Vettel in the early 90's competing with Senna, Mansell or Prost?
Last season, based on his team radio, Vettel often showed that he's capable of multitasking during a race and that he has quite some technical knowledge, so I would assume he could adapt. Hamilton... whoowee. In that one season where teams were not allowed to walk their drivers through setup, Hamilton had a couple races where he was bitching about not knowing what to do and demanding to be talked through what he needs to do, even though the pitcrew repeatedly told him that they aren't allowed to coach him.

But admittedly, the cars had a lot less doodats and winklydinks on the steering wheel in the 80s and 90s.

As for the Qualifying, damn. AM kinda dropped the ball with Stroll. If he's got his time deleted, they should quickly churn out another time. Waiting for the end of the segment has this far fucked people up more than it did help. A shame Mick crashed, but he's most likely keeping P15 (if they don't have to change too much on the car) and Mazepin was lackluster again in comparison.
Tsunoda made a little mistake and his car twerked its way into the barriers, pretty big shame, too. The guy is a rookie and he might be really good, but I think he's a bit too rash.
 
I think Mick's gear box is going to need a change the way he tagged the barrier. I hope it doesn't though.

I wonder what bit on the redbull hambone is going to be crying for the FIA to ban next.
 
when looking around the paul ricard circuit it struck me that a lot of the run off areas around the track that don't have a large tyre-barrier behind them. After seeing the stuck-throttle crash in Detroit last week i was worried something like that could have catastrophic consequences due to the tarmac runoff not slowing the car down at all and minimal protection from the wall.
 
when looking around the paul ricard circuit it struck me that a lot of the run off areas around the track that don't have a large tyre-barrier behind them. After seeing the stuck-throttle crash in Detroit last week i was worried something like that could have catastrophic consequences due to the tarmac runoff not slowing the car down at all and minimal protection from the wall.
Watch the Zandvoort FREC race. I was kind of surprised that the guardrails were exposed basically around entire track. Surely they will have tire barriers in front of them when F1 head there. I presume they don't have them there for FREC because those cars are of course much slower than F1 cars. But that track is quite narrow from what I can see so will be interesting to see when the F1 boats are on it in a few months.
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So, I managed to watch the 2 F3 Races, DTM and DTM Trophy Qs + Race 1 (Ferrari has 2 cars in DTM!), FREC Q + Race 1, SuperFormula Q and SF Lights Q + Race 1, EuroFOpen Q + Race 1. Still got Indy Q to watch tonight.

What are we thinking about the race tomorrow? Strategy with 2nd drivers going to play a big role? I hope it is not a totally boring race.
 
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Tsunoda made a little mistake and his car twerked its way into the barriers, pretty big shame, too. The guy is a rookie and he might be really good, but I think he's a bit too rash.
Putting Tsunoda into AT was a mistake. He really needs another season or two of F2 to mature a bit more.
 
Putting Tsunoda into AT was a mistake. He really needs another season or two of F2 to mature a bit more.
Yeah, it was worth a shot, but if he now fails to perform, his seat is most likely going to go to some other poor sod that will underperform due to being a rookie.
AT and RB goes through drivers like whales go through plankton, with similar results to the drivers.
I hope they'll give him at least next season, cause he's not bad, he's just inexperienced.

But I have to say, watching his car twerking its way into the barriers was kinda funny looking.
I just hope the shaking didn't ruin anything - not like he can lose any more places on the starting grid, but it would be bad to lose some money and spare parts on top of his bad starting position.
 
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