US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)

Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?

 

[Michael Wade]

I think they would have been in a better place right now if they had just conceded 2020 to Trump, like I initially thought they were going to. Before the coof began, the Democrat field was a complete shitshow, an overcrowded field with no standout candidates and the media desperately trying to find a different star every week. None of them could compare to Trump's natural charisma and decent record up to that point; despite the constant barrage of attacks, his approval remained pretty constant. Uncle Boiney won the first few primaries, but the DNC were never going to let him actually run, and only the most naive Bernie Bros still think otherwise. Through the most obvious coordinated game of politics possible, all the other corporate Dems backed out at the same time to give Biden their votes, while Fauxcahontas stayed in to split the progressive vote and fuck over Bernie. Biden wasn't their first choice, but they'd rather have someone they can control than a good candidate.

Then the coof happened, and like ol' Rahm Emanuel said, "never let a good crisis go to waste." Why wait another four years to return to power when they can take advantage of the worst pandemic in history (not even close)? Their sympathizers at the CDC recommended lockdowns and other extreme measures that killed local economies, then blamed Trump for it as the damage got worse. They shot Trump's ability to get his message out in the knees, banning his campaign rallies as "superspreader events." Blue states enacted "election enhancement reforms," backed by billions of dollars from Zuckerberg and others that enabled ballot harvesting on a wide scale, but only in Democrat areas, funnily enough.

The results were an election that looked shady as fuck the day of, and only got worse as time went on. More people now believe that there was election fuckery going on, with the biggest swing being Independent voters, as per that poll upthread. Biden isn't seen as a legitimate president by a lot of people, even worldwide (shoutout to those Guatemalan protestors with their "Trump Won" banners), and the constant sense of paranoia coming from Washington about the common man speaks volumes. These do not feel like the actions of a government that believes it has a mandate from the people to rule.

If, on the other hand, they'd given up and handed Trump the election, he'd be the one responsible for cleaning up the messes that Biden's dealing with now. While he probably wouldn't have as serious a border crisis to deal with since that was being handled pretty well overall, the continued issues of reopening the economy post-coof would be a challenge. Nobody really wants to be the one holding the bag if the economy falls through, and if that happened under Trump's watch, Republicans would be in the same state as they were in the Hoover days. Democrats could have swept in in 2024 under the guise of making sure that those damn Republicans never fucked up the economy again (never mind it was mostly their fault in the first place).

But you're right, they never expected Trump to go peacefully, and now they're lost as to what to do.

Really feels like a monkey's paw situation. They made a deal with the devil to get in and they got a lot more then they bargained for. They are in a bear trap they dont know how to get out of, and instead of cutting the arm off, they decide to just walk around waiting for it to fall off.

 

[Bland Crumbs]

I think they would have been in a better place right now if they had just conceded 2020 to Trump, like I initially thought they were going to. Before the coof began, the Democrat field was a complete shitshow, an overcrowded field with no standout candidates and the media desperately trying to find a different star every week. None of them could compare to Trump's natural charisma and decent record up to that point; despite the constant barrage of attacks, his approval remained pretty constant. Uncle Boiney won the first few primaries, but the DNC were never going to let him actually run, and only the most naive Bernie Bros still think otherwise. Through the most obvious coordinated game of politics possible, all the other corporate Dems backed out at the same time to give Biden their votes, while Fauxcahontas stayed in to split the progressive vote and fuck over Bernie. Biden wasn't their first choice, but they'd rather have someone they can control than a good candidate.

Then the coof happened, and like ol' Rahm Emanuel said, "never let a good crisis go to waste." Why wait another four years to return to power when they can take advantage of the worst pandemic in history (not even close)? Their sympathizers at the CDC recommended lockdowns and other extreme measures that killed local economies, then blamed Trump for it as the damage got worse. They shot Trump's ability to get his message out in the knees, banning his campaign rallies as "superspreader events." Blue states enacted "election enhancement reforms," backed by billions of dollars from Zuckerberg and others that enabled ballot harvesting on a wide scale, but only in Democrat areas, funnily enough.

The results were an election that looked shady as fuck the day of, and only got worse as time went on. More people now believe that there was election fuckery going on, with the biggest swing being Independent voters, as per that poll upthread. Biden isn't seen as a legitimate president by a lot of people, even worldwide (shoutout to those Guatemalan protestors with their "Trump Won" banners), and the constant sense of paranoia coming from Washington about the common man speaks volumes. These do not feel like the actions of a government that believes it has a mandate from the people to rule.

If, on the other hand, they'd given up and handed Trump the election, he'd be the one responsible for cleaning up the messes that Biden's dealing with now. While he probably wouldn't have as serious a border crisis to deal with since that was being handled pretty well overall, the continued issues of reopening the economy post-coof would be a challenge. Nobody really wants to be the one holding the bag if the economy falls through, and if that happened under Trump's watch, Republicans would be in the same state as they were in the Hoover days. Democrats could have swept in in 2024 under the guise of making sure that those damn Republicans never fucked up the economy again (never mind it was mostly their fault in the first place).

But you're right, they never expected Trump to go peacefully, and now they're lost as to what to do.

They could not have waited Trump out. Unless the vaccines turn out to be total poison what is coming re: Fauci and DNC governors being assailed it only makes him look better.

They knew Cuomo was going to be attacked. They knew they would not be able to hold off the truth about Wuhan. They probably knew Swalwell was getting pegged by a spy.

Giving Trump a recovery and validation would have been bad. Giving him four more years to go after the FBI for their actions with power would have been horrific for them. They banked on a terrible gamble and now it is only a question if the GOP can crush them for their mistake which again might end up being pretty bad.

Regardless states are asserting themselves against Biden's weakness and I think the DNC has lost a lot of the weapons they used to have...when is the last time Pelosi said shit? She is hiding. SCOTUS is handing down 9-0 decisions that directly contradict the Biden Regime's goals because they know he cannot pack the court and that public opinion is shifting.

I am curious to see if they try to cheat in 2022...I know I have not received my mail in ballot.

Just a close: If you think the left and DNC are on the right side of history I beg you to look at pre-soviet Russia, Cambodia, China, Korea, Vietnam...find a history book without the approved stamp of the party and look at how movements that killed hundreds of millions started and try to squeeze an objective view out.

They are pushing us to that same fate and you need to wake the fuck up before you are on the line.

“Critical race theory has its roots in cultural Marxism — it should have no place in our schools,” Xi Van Fleet said to cheers and applause at a Tuesday meeting of the progressive Loudoun County School Board.

“You are now teaching, training our children, to be social justice warriors and to loathe our country and our history,” she told the meeting of the district already bitterly divided for pushing the policy that critics accuse of itself being racist.

“Growing up in Mao’s China, all of this seems very familiar,” insisted the mom, who finally fled China when she was 26.

“The Communist regime used the same critical theory to divide people. The only difference is they used class instead of race,” she said.

She lived it and escaped...now she is seeing it coming again.

 

[Jonah Hill poster]

 

[The Last Stand]

The people in charge of biden... man I wouldn't want to be in their fucking shoes. They are getting fucked three ways to Sunday.

First there are the audits, which they are trying to desperately play down and threaten to an almost impotent degree. Then there's Biden almost shitting himself every-time he speaks, which necessitates constant watch and supervision, who anyone with a brain can see he's steadily getting worse and worse. Then there's the matter of succession, which is completely fucked because they picked literally the worst possible person to be VP. A bitch so unlikable they had to practically force her though for some dumbass reason, and you can see they are starting to regret that honeymoon.

Honestly, it's well deserved. They made their bed, now they lie in it. This would be hilarious if the American people aren't affected of it.

2020 was a perfect storm of disaster that the Democrats took full advantage of to overthrow Trump. Nobody saw the impact of COVID coming. The extended lockdowns, deaths and economic despair left people ripe to be manipulated waiting for some kind of relief.

I thought the woke trends would die with COVID-19. A realization that we're all in this together. But American entitlement ruined any chance of that happening. Then George Floyd happened. The media went full steam ahead trying to push this "police brutality" spin and allow months of rioting in cities with little resistance. All the while, blame Trump for all of this.

The DNC went scorched earth to defeat Trump, pulling all the stops they had to commit for victory. Of all the candidates they picked, Joe Biden has to be the WORST choice as a leader. Guy has serious dementia, a racist past, allegations of sexual harassment and no diplomacy to handle international affairs. All they have is "He's not Trump!" and a minority checklist VP with a worse history.

The media monopoly and societal zeitgeists can only last so long before people get tired of it and see through the mask.

 

[King Dead]

Honestly, it's well deserved. They made their bed, now they lie in it. This would be hilarious if the American people aren't affected of it.

2020 was a perfect storm of disaster that the Democrats took full advantage of to overthrow Trump. Nobody saw the impact of COVID coming. The extended lockdowns, deaths and economic despair left people ripe to be manipulated waiting for some kind of relief.

I thought the woke trends would die with COVID-19. A realization that we're all in this together. But American entitlement ruined any chance of that happening. Then George Floyd happened. The media went full steam ahead trying to push this "police brutality" spin and allow months of rioting in cities with little resistance. All the while, blame Trump for all of this.

The DNC went scorched earth to defeat Trump, pulling all the stops they had to commit for victory. Of all the candidates they picked, Joe Biden has to be the WORST choice as a leader. Guy has serious dementia, a racist past, allegations of sexual harassment and no diplomacy to handle international affairs. All they have is "He's not Trump!" and a minority checklist VP with a worse history.

The media monopoly and societal zeitgeists can only last so long before people get tired of it and see through the mask.

Like I said, if the Dems had a single candidate in their field that was both competent and not completely unlikable (and would bend the knee to corporate interests), they would have thrown their weight behind them immediately. Instead, the lone voices who were saying "hey maybe we shouldn't keep shitting on the working class" were silenced, and the rest of them were varying degrees of awful. Joe was their backup plan if they couldn't manage to find their perfect anti-Trump candidate, and when they failed, they were stuck with him.

In any other year, Biden would have been slaughtered at the polls. But they shoved him through somehow and now we're stuck with him. We can only hope that whoever's running the show doesn't cause too much damage in the meantime.

 

[The Last Stand]

Like I said, if the Dems had a single candidate in their field that was both competent and not completely unlikable

Closest one was Tulsi Gabbard. Yang's UBI plan would've been an economic disaster for the taxpayer and banks.

 

[StevieLasVegas]

Closest one was Tulsi Gabbard. Yang's UBI plan would've been an economic disaster for the taxpayer and banks.

I'm with you on this one. She's ethnic, so higher chance of pleasing minorities in the polls. She has a military background, so that would take away soldier & veteran votes that usually go to the Republicans. She can talk as proven with her annihilation of Harris' run, so Trump would've had an equal contender on the debate front where the media moderator wouldn't need to make points for the Dems. And let's not forget that she's smoking hot. Honestly, her biggest drawback would've been her stance on the Second Ammendment, but in the last year it seems like she's lightened her stance against it (thanks Minneapolis!).

 

[pwnest injun]

I think they would have been in a better place right now if they had just conceded 2020 to Trump, like I initially thought they were going to. Before the coof began, the Democrat field was a complete shitshow, an overcrowded field with no standout candidates and the media desperately trying to find a different star every week. None of them could compare to Trump's natural charisma and decent record up to that point; despite the constant barrage of attacks, his approval remained pretty constant. Uncle Boiney won the first few primaries, but the DNC were never going to let him actually run, and only the most naive Bernie Bros still think otherwise. Through the most obvious coordinated game of politics possible, all the other corporate Dems backed out at the same time to give Biden their votes, while Fauxcahontas stayed in to split the progressive vote and fuck over Bernie. Biden wasn't their first choice, but they'd rather have someone they can control than a good candidate.

Then the coof happened, and like ol' Rahm Emanuel said, "never let a good crisis go to waste." Why wait another four years to return to power when they can take advantage of the worst pandemic in history (not even close)? Their sympathizers at the CDC recommended lockdowns and other extreme measures that killed local economies, then blamed Trump for it as the damage got worse. They shot Trump's ability to get his message out in the knees, banning his campaign rallies as "superspreader events." Blue states enacted "election enhancement reforms," backed by billions of dollars from Zuckerberg and others that enabled ballot harvesting on a wide scale, but only in Democrat areas, funnily enough.

The results were an election that looked shady as fuck the day of, and only got worse as time went on. More people now believe that there was election fuckery going on, with the biggest swing being Independent voters, as per that poll upthread. Biden isn't seen as a legitimate president by a lot of people, even worldwide (shoutout to those Guatemalan protestors with their "Trump Won" banners), and the constant sense of paranoia coming from Washington about the common man speaks volumes. These do not feel like the actions of a government that believes it has a mandate from the people to rule.

If, on the other hand, they'd given up and handed Trump the election, he'd be the one responsible for cleaning up the messes that Biden's dealing with now. While he probably wouldn't have as serious a border crisis to deal with since that was being handled pretty well overall, the continued issues of reopening the economy post-coof would be a challenge. Nobody really wants to be the one holding the bag if the economy falls through, and if that happened under Trump's watch, Republicans would be in the same state as they were in the Hoover days. Democrats could have swept in in 2024 under the guise of making sure that those damn Republicans never fucked up the economy again (never mind it was mostly their fault in the first place).

But you're right, they never expected Trump to go peacefully, and now they're lost as to what to do.

There's something that you're not taking into account and that's the COVID Money Printer effect. They had to take control, because they knew that there was so much money on the table, and whoever controlled handing that money out would have so much power that there was no choice but to win, even if it cost them all credibility.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

I'm with you on this one. She's ethnic, so higher chance of pleasing minorities in the polls. She has a military background, so that would take away soldier & veteran votes that usually go to the Republicans. She can talk as proven with her annihilation of Harris' run, so Trump would've had an equal contender on the debate front where the media moderator wouldn't need to make points for the Dems. And let's not forget that she's smoking hot. Honestly, her biggest drawback would've been her stance on the Second Ammendment, but in the last year it seems like she's lightened her stance against it (thanks Minneapolis!).

The problem is she never completed the heel turn to retain relevancy. The moment she lost her lawsuit to Hillary was when she should have changed parties and talk about just how corrupt the DNC electoral process is, which is how her heel turn started in the first place; Bernie losing to Hillary in 2016. What happened in reality is she conceded to Biden and still has a D next to her name, the party known for government lockdowns, peaceful rioting, and election fraud.

 

[StevieLasVegas]

The problem is she never completed the heel turn to retain relevancy. The moment she lost her lawsuit to Hillary was when she should have changed parties and talk about just how corrupt the DNC electoral process is, which is how her heel turn started in the first place; Bernie losing to Hillary in 2016. What happened in reality is she conceded to Biden and still has a D next to her name, the party known for government lockdowns, peaceful rioting, and election fraud.

Forgot about her lawsuit. Thanks for the reminder

 

[Super-Chevy454]

Is Biden will throw Kamala Harris under the bus? The way Kamala did in the missteps department, she seems to be the perfect candidate for being a sacrificial lamb. https://nypost.com/2021/06/08/biden-throws-his-clueless-vice-president-under-the-bus/

https://archive.ph/av3Bd

Kamala Harris is playing a historic role in 2021: the nation’s first black, Asian, female vice president to serve as a sacrificial lamb.
Like many other women before her, Harris has been tasked with coming in late to clean up a mess made by her boss. Joe Biden probably wouldn’t do too well in a “Jeopardy!” contest, or even on a circle-a-word puzzle, but he’s smart enough to know that when you’ve got a problem you can’t solve, you should grandly announce a plan to deal with it by … fobbing it off on someone else.
Alas, unlike Barack Obama’s plan to cure cancer by announcing that Joe Biden would cure cancer (yes, that really happened), Biden’s buck-passing set up Harris for a spectacularly visible failure.
When friendly questioner Lester Holt pointed out to Harris that she hadn’t visited the border once, she pulled her trademark move (whenever she gets busted) of breaking into that famously weird dismissive laugh and replied, “And I haven’t been to Europe,” as though an equivalent problem is coming out of Europe. Hordes of damp Irishmen desperately washing up on the shores of Maine, perhaps.
The Biden administration created the border crisis with a “Yay, illegal immigrants” rhetorical style that was received in Latin America like an embossed invitation: “President Joe cordially invites you to El Norte.”
During the presidential campaign, Biden generously offered to suspend deportations and end family separations. In 2019, both Biden and Harris vowed to give health care to illegal immigrants, and two years before that, she insisted that “an undocumented immigrant is not a criminal.”

 

[AnotherPleb]

I have a more complicated view of debt relief than "Debt relief bad because of lazy bums". The problem at its root is that we, as a culture, pushed the idea of "You NEED a degree to get anywhere" so hard that it inevitably would result in a lot of people flooding degrees that can pay well... but now is vastly oversaturated with potential workers. A lot of the people suffering have degrees that can be used to pay off the debt.... but have absolutely no chance of gaining employment due to over-saturation.

Millennials in particular had that shit pushed hard when they were growing up. Why do you think that is such a sticking point with a lot of them?

I stand by my belief that mass debt relief is a big glowing sign with blaring alarms that screech "HOLY FUCK WE DON'T HAVE OUR SHIT TOGETHER IN THE SLIGHTEST SENSE OF THE SAYING, PLEASE PARK YOUR MONEY LITERALLY ANYWHERE ELSE." to the rest of the global market. But I do agree with your general argument that younger generations were sold a lie and have been taken advantage of by scumfuck bankers and university admins that have seized upon the opportunity to create a permanent serf class of indebted, heavily indoctrinated wage slaves. The interesting times are only just beginning imo, unfortunately.

The fact that American schools as a whole took out any sense of trades to prevent certain groups from stirring up shit robbed so many kids of life skills they really need.

I generally agree with you honestly. Hence why it's complicated. It's not a great idea, but neither was what started it. It's a fucked situation with no clear good answer.

Maybe if high schools stop fucking demonizing the trades and blue collar work colleges might have to slow down tuition rates.

 

[Gehenna]

Millennials in particular had that shit pushed hard when they were growing up. Why do you think that is such a sticking point with a lot of them?

The fact that American schools as a whole took out any sense of trades to prevent certain groups from stirring up shit robbed so many kids of life skills they really need.

Maybe if high schools stop fucking demonizing the trades and blue collar work colleges might have to slow down tuition rates.

For many, Debt relief would be a serious boon that they do in fact need, and not out of any failure which can be truly laid at their feet. They were sold a vision of the world from their youngest years that was simply utterly divorced from reality. Now they pay the price of other's hubris, and someone promising to even ease that pain was a very tempting target. Honestly, if I hadn't seen the clear fuckery myself I would have chalked Biden's win up to that and that alone since its such a massive driver.


Mind, all this is also why Biden stabbing them in the back is so utterly bug nuts stupid and insane. And the worst thing is, with a student debt of 1.7 trillion dollars he could have had a portion of that or even all of it paid off if the massive amount of pork in the 'relief' package had been cut out. The money had been used, it had been there. THat won't be forgotten, that won't go unnoticed. And there will be a lot of people in the Core Democrat group which suddenly have some sharp questions.

 

[Shadfan666xxx000]

Also conversely the most economically sound and sober decision they've made so far. Quite a conundrum they've put themselves into, yeah?

They could have actually been creative and offered a refinance option. Basically turn the loans into zero interest for certain citizens and bam, you'd have reelection and a giant windfall int the treasury.

 

[SeniorFuckFace]

Oh, absolutely fucking horrid. Though some explanation of the explanation to come:

Spoiler: Longer Analysis Here

Right now politics in America are amazingly polarized, this means that you can split the entire country into five camps. These camps are Core Democrat/Republican, Leans Democrat/Republican, and Broadly Moderate. This bit is normal, but the polarisation comes in to play in that the number of Core voters is massively disproportionate to the number of Leans or Moderates. These voters, no matter what, are going to support their side.

With the broad groups established, we can look at the holy trinity of voting characteristics. Who is it, How Many, and How Likely? To keep a very, very lengthy topic somewhat short these are Who are the specific voting groups, how large of a group do they make up, and how likely are they to vote? You do this analysis for each broad camp of voters. A general trend is Republicans have smaller groups, but a much higher base of active voters whereas Democrats have a much wider base of groups but their voting rates are pretty shit.


Now, with a frame of references established, consider Biden (and Harris') optics. The border crisis? Well, that massively alienates a voting block that already has proven shaky in the form of Hispanics AND Progressives. Now, the latter isn't a terribly big loss since they tend to have low rates of active voters but the Hispanic vote is -painful- in a lot of tight Southern races. The series of fuckups likely costs them several Texas House seats and Arizona in general. Then we get to the flip flop on Israel and Palestine, not to mention the general flubbing of foreign diplomacy. Yet more depression of the Progressive vote (Which is now getting worrying because this nudges that vote from Not Terribly Big to Painful.) and most painfully... ensures a lot of damage to the Moderate vote.

The absolutely worst thing though is the lack of Student Relief. That one was.... look. There are certain things you don't -do- in politics. While "Politician says he'll give the world, but under-delivers" is memed to hell and back, you do still have to -look- like you are trying to deliver. Especially when its a -main campaign promise-. People remember these things, they remember failure better than they remember even your best success. Totally refusing student aid is a monumentally, horrifically stupid idea for a fuck ton of reasons and unless they find a way to federally enshrine the MOST stringent voter fuckery it will be -catastrophic-.

The Student vote is, by far, bar none, without any fucking contender even vaguely -close-, the biggest voting block for Democrats. It's also one of the spottiest. And Biden just very openly stabbed that entire faction in the back -hard-. Back in my neck of the woods, that announcement was met with cries of "That can't be serious, that would be suicide". SO uhm, yah. There is no recovery from that. It's the single most insane, stupid, and suicidal decision I have ever seen any politician do ever.

Thank you, as always, for sharing your insight.

 

[Socrates]

They could have actually been creative and offered a refinance option. Basically turn the loans into zero interest for certain citizens and bam, you'd have reelection and a giant windfall int the treasury.

The banks will never allow that to happen as long as they can continue to buy our elected officials with PAC contributions and "speaking fee" bribes. They don't want a solution, they want people crushed under interest accruing debt for the totality of their natural lives.

 

[CrippleThreat]

Make like a schizo, and get Joe his meds, please.

 

[Ebonic Tutor]

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Make like a schizo, and get Joe his meds, please.

God his voice sounded awful, like a pack a day smoker or something.

 

[Beavis]

I have a more complicated view of debt relief than "Debt relief bad because of lazy bums". The problem at its root is that we, as a culture, pushed the idea of "You NEED a degree to get anywhere" so hard that it inevitably would result in a lot of people flooding degrees that can pay well... but now is vastly oversaturated with potential workers. A lot of the people suffering have degrees that can be used to pay off the debt.... but have absolutely no chance of gaining employment due to over-saturation.

I‘m a computer toucher and printer unjammer. It’s mind boggling how many companies post listings for computer janitors and require a degree in computer science.

 

[FAQnews Correspondent]

Mind, all this is also why Biden stabbing them in the back is so utterly bug nuts stupid and insane.

They'll come back and Vote Blue No Matter Who. It makes sense to stab them in the back, he has their votes in the bag and keeps his donors happy.