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Conspiracy theories are no longer the domain of lovable weirdos tracking Bigfoot - they're a sinister problem​

Charles Davis
Thu, May 20, 2021, 12:17 AM·8 min read


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A man holds up a "Q" sign while waiting in line to see President Donald J. Trump at his rally on August 2, 2018 in Wilkes Barre, Pennsylvania. Rick Loomis/Getty Images
As a teen who objected to sleeping at a decent hour, I would often lay in bed, fire up the shortwave transmitter from RadioShack, and listen to a total crank named Art Bell tell me that Bigfoot was real. Before there was YouTube, there was "Coast to Coast AM," Bell's multi-hour program on all things paranormal.
Conspiracy theories, as I understood them back then, were good, clean, frivolous entertainment - secret government teleportation programs, powered by alien technology, and interdimensional animals linked to the disappearance of cattle in the American southwest. It was science fiction with an additional element of fun: What if it's actually real?
In 2021, conspiracy theories are no longer a source of amusement, nor are leading purveyors mere harmless weirdos. What was once AM-radio "Star Trek" is now state-sponsored disinformation and plagiarized anti-Semitism - a global cabal of cosmopolitan elites conspiring to abuse children - serving the interests of the world's most powerful people, with heads of state and big tech companies profiting whenever someone new goes down the rabbit hole.

The popular, modern-day shills for conspiracism deal in much darker fare than a gift shop in Roswell​

Dave Neiwert, a long-time investigative journalist and chronicler of the far-right, told Insider that the appeal of conspiracy theories is the key to not just understanding but combating the rise of conspiracism.
People, particularly those with authoritarian tendencies - on either the left or the right - desire simple explanations for complex phenomena that flatter their existing beliefs. And the darker the allegation, the more noble an "independent journalist" or Facebook user can feel in their crusade against mainstream notions of truth.
"Heroism is really a key component," Neiwert told me over the phone, laying out the thrust of his most recent book, "Red Pill, Blue Pill: How to Counteract the Conspiracy Theories That Are Killing Us."
The most popular genre of films is comic book characters engaged in binary combat: good versus evil. "I think we are seeing an America that's increasingly educated to be heroes," he said.
But most of us aren't heroes.
Enter, then, the world of forbidden enlightenment; a select, online minority of people who get it - who can decode the seemingly banal and uncover the supposed evil within.
"One of the things that really offers is the sense that you are heroically saving the world by advancing this secret knowledge that's been suppressed," Neiwert said.
In the case of QAnon, a conspiracy theory which holds that an anonymous account on the internet reflected the insights of a high-ranking state official with the goods that Donald Trump was too modest to share, "people really see themselves as saving these children who are victimized by the global pedophilia ring, and against these nefarious conspirators."

It's not the encyclopedic knowledge of the conspiracy theorists that attracts followers, either.​

"Particularly, post-9/11, it has reached a sort of new form where it is completely evidence-free," Neiwert commented. It doesn't matter that "Q" followers, yesterday, believed Hillary Clinton's arrest was imminent, but what they believe, today, that holds together the online social club. Much more important than the truth of a prophecy is what the belief enables and justifies: the failures of the politicians they support - the deep state stopped it - and the belief that those who stand against them are irredeemable (in the case of QAnon, satanic, even). The group identity comes not from vindication that never comes, but in the persistent opposition to the hated and dehumanized "other," whether it's milquetoast liberals or Chinese communists.
That's one of several curiosities about today's conspiratorial mindset. Once upon a time, the en-vogue political conspiracy theories used to be oppositional. They did not echo, precisely, what one could hear a president (or now-former president) of the United States. (Fringe views are in Congress, including Georgia's Majorie Taylor Greene or Colorado's Lauren Boebert who are sympathetic to QAnon.)
That could not be said of the theories popularized since 2016, crafted to defend elite failures and amplified by the world's most powerful people.
Under the guise of standing up to the establishment, far-right conspiracy theorists promoted the idea that the opposition party rigged a plebiscite and argued the former president should impose military rule to remain in power, culminating in the violent January 6 attack on democracy and the US Capitol.

Not everything that gets labeled a 'conspiracy theory' actually is one: Real conspiracies have limitations.​

"There are three limitations in real conspiracies that do not exist in conspiracy theories," Neiwert told Insider. "First is limitation in time: Conspiracy theories, such as the 'Protocols of the Elders of Zion' or the 'New World Order' - these go on for years and years and years, whereas most conspiracies that we actually know of are very limited in time."
"Secondly," Neiwert said, "they are very limited in the numbers of actors who participate. The real conspiracies that we know of involve very few actual conspirators, mainly because they can only exist as long as it's secret - and the more people you have involved, the sooner that secret is going away."
"And then the third," per Neiwert, "unreliable conspiracy theories propose things that are basically global in reach, affecting massive numbers of people, whereas as a real conspiracy only affects a limited scope."

Social media has to be part of the solution​

One thing about conspiracy theorists, these days, is that they are gravely online, speaking to potentially millions of people who have clicked "like" and "subscribe."
You can spend weeks trying to pull a family member back from the brink of "false flags" and pedophile cults and "PsyOps," a process, Neiwert counsels, that will require patience, empathy, and a good deal of energy; in the meantime, however, for every person brought of the fog thousands more will have been radicalized by a viral meme.
"There's gotta be social media reform," Neiwert argued, saying the rise of viral posts has led to the worst proliferation of conspiracy thinking he's seen since he started following the stuff in the 1990s.
Social media companies have been loath to do much about this, as removing influential conspiracy theorists from a platform is also removing a source of revenue. It took a failed coup d'etat, resulting in a handful of deaths and hundreds of injuries, to really drive home the urgency, with Twitter and Facebook then banning a president and many of his followers from their platforms. In the free market, ad revenue is ad revenue, even if it aids the rise of violent extremism.
The obvious risk of a harder line from social media companies is that legitimately differing opinions could be tossed in the same bin as the harmful cranks.
Conservative politicians have portrayed "Big Tech" as eager to silence dissenting voices, ignoring the fact that those voices only first went viral because of earlier content decisions. Indeed, Facebook only started removing groups that promote QAnon and right-wing paramilitary organizations after first coddling the far right out of fear of GOP backlash.
At the same time, recognizing that declining to grant someone a free platform is not quite the same as silencing them, is important. The present risk of fringe conspiracies on the digital equivalent of the front page can also not be ignored. Malicious actors are currently exploiting popular platforms for cynical purposes.
Any regulation of speech requires constant vigilance; there are always pitfalls. But consider, also, the status quo and its record: state actors using stolen emails, ripped out of context by partisan actors like WikiLeaks, to tilt an election; a genocide in Myanmar fueled by anti-Muslim disinformation posted by that country's military; and a violent extremist in New Zealand live-streaming mass murder after being radicalized with the help of YouTube.
Belated efforts to confront this read more like public relations - a tag on a video, post, or tweet saying that the content above is disputed.
Unemployed journalists, displaced by social media, could be employed to identify and stop the plainly false from gaining traction. Misinformation, unchecked, "is what makes conspiracy theories go and what gives them their toxic power," Neiwert said, "making it impossible for people to come to an agreement on what's factual and what's not."

 
When people lose faith in authorities, they become more trusting of other sources. That's just human nature. Maybe if journalists could be trusted to do their actual jobs, people wouldn't seek out alternatives. If you can see the story shifting in real time to hide the inconvenient truths, why on earth should you continue to trust them as the only people who have the right to dictate what we believe? Once you know that they've lied about something important, wouldn't you be an idiot to think that this is the ONLY time they have ever lied to you? And if someone comes along and acknowledges the truth that you have seen with your own eyes, now you are primed to be open minded to other things that they say. That's how people fall down the rabbit hole of conspiracy.

The solution is for journalists to do their damned jobs instead of whoring themselves out to corporations or political parties. Until that happens, you're just going to have to deal with the fact that their journalistic incompetence/corruption is boosting people like Alex Jones and David Icke.
 
I think the issue is two fold. First, we have the CIA admitting to doing a bunch of fucked up shit throughout it's existence. MKultra turned out to be real and then they expect people to believe that the mysterious government organizations we have little information about just stopped being bad. Logically, that doesn't line up. There is no reason to think these groups stopped doing questionable things just because they told us about ones we basically had evidence of in the past.

Second, every single time a conspiracy turns out to be real it bolsters that fringe group. Especially if it was something they were silenced over when discussing it. Take the "covid came from a lab" situation. It was grounds to get banned from social media etc, and suddenly its turning out that Fauci and friends are starting to say its likely what happened. Every time that happens it makes them feel super vindicated and it becomes much harder to dispel the more extreme ones they come up with because the basis you'd use to disprove them has been shown in other places to not be true. The issue is honestly that there is massive cover-ups and censorship but with social media what it is in this day and age its significantly harder for the powers to be that to pull it off as they used to before people could easily communicate across the country/world.
 
The cat is out of the bag and pandora's box long since been opened. You cannot go back to the happy golden days of owning TV, newspaper, with the only way for anyone to disseminate counter information either face to face or with their own newsletters that had to be physically delivered. The internet both killed the grip that was had over the 'narrative' in some ways and has strengthened it in others, but this past year has made a lot more people open to the BS. It would be easier to keep a wrap on things if the "science" of the grand plague didn't change every other week for most of the pandemic.
 
The solution is for journalists to do their damned jobs instead of whoring themselves out to corporations or political parties.
Problem with that is that whoring themselves out to corporations or political parties is their actual damned job.
 
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I've always just lumped all of that stuff in with conspiracy theories

Yeah fair enough. Im just being pedantic but it does feel likes there's an attempt by TPTB to whitewash all conspiracy theories as one to discredit them.

You think politicians of both wings are working together with foreign and corporate powers to rob the American people? Well i bet you believe the earth is flat and Bigfoot lives in hallow moon as well you conspiratard.
 
Yeah fair enough. Im just being pedantic but it does feel likes there's an attempt by TPTB to whitewash all conspiracy theories as one to discredit them.

You think politicians of both wings are working together with foreign and corporate powers to rob the American people? Well i bet you believe the earth is flat and Bigfoot lives in hallow moon as well you conspiratard.
It is an established fact that Nazi mystics sent Hitler into the hollow Earth via submarine in order to continue to build the Reich and someday claim the surface.

I saw it on the History Channel.
 
Yeah fair enough. Im just being pedantic but it does feel likes there's an attempt by TPTB to whitewash all conspiracy theories as one to discredit them.
Each to their own, i was just saying i lump them in together because i'm a spastic
You think politicians of both wings are working together with foreign and corporate powers to rob the American people? Well i bet you believe the earth is flat and Bigfoot lives in hallow moon as well you conspiratard.
Exactly this.

As another poster said "When everything is a conspiracy theory, nothing is".

Flat Earth is a fucking retarded theory. Nobody in history has ever thought the Earth was flat, it's a mis-conception. (100% true, it was on QI)

But it does serve a purpose of painting all conspiracy theories as fucking retards. Same with Q. I believe it started off in the intelligence community. Someone found out and rather than shutting it down (admitting it was initially true) they took over the communications to make it so outlandish and stupid, that nobody would believe in that, ever again.

Clinton emails is another example of diversion.
 
Each to their own, i was just saying i lump them in together because i'm a spastic

Exactly this.

As another poster said "When everything is a conspiracy theory, nothing is".

Flat Earth is a fucking retarded theory. Nobody in history has ever thought the Earth was flat, it's a mis-conception. (100% true, it was on QI)

But it does serve a purpose of painting all conspiracy theories as fucking retards. Same with Q. I believe it started off in the intelligence community. Someone found out and rather than shutting it down (admitting it was initially true) they took over the communications to make it so outlandish and stupid, that nobody would believe in that, ever again.

Clinton emails is another example of diversion.
The Earth is flat and you’re a retard for believing otherwise.
 
The purpose of the term "conspiracy theory" is to engender social disapproval towards the concept of speculating on the shady shit that governments, alphabet agencies, and powerful people do on a regular basis. They are hoping that you are gullible enough not to recall every time that governments, alphabet agencies, and powerful people have done incredibly shady shit and been caught.
  • Watergate
  • Iran-Contra
  • Lavon Affair
  • Operation Northwoods
  • MKULTRA/Operation Midnight Climax
  • Classified JFK Files
  • 9/11 and the Dancing Israelis
  • The Business Plot to overthrow FDR
  • The Gulf of Tonkin Incident
  • The Phoenix Program
  • The Tuskegee Syphilis Study
  • The attack on the USS Liberty
  • Operation Mockingbird
  • The BCCI Scandal
  • CIA drug-running in Central America
  • Operation Ajax
  • Operation Gladio


A significant portion of the time, these conspiracies are real and merit investigation, and in every instance, they demonstrate the illegitimacy of the power vested in our criminal rulers.
 
It is an established fact that Nazi mystics sent Hitler into the hollow Earth via submarine in order to continue to build the Reich and someday claim the surface.

I saw it on the History Channel.
nazi ufo.jpg

They are heading towards Portland. There are eye witness accounts of Ernst Rohm and the SA being parachuted in near the WA/OR border along with crates of nuclear powered 12 inch dildos.

A tranny pilot from the USAF trying to intercept them lost control of the fighter jet after her wig jammed the controls and crashed landed into the residence of Jessica Yaniv in Vancouver.
 
'New World Order'
I really wish someone would press Lori Lightfoot on what she meant in this clip by "pledging allegiance to the New World Order"
It all reminds me of something, but I can't quite put my finger on it...🤔
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Each to their own, i was just saying i lump them in together because i'm a spastic

Exactly this.

As another poster said "When everything is a conspiracy theory, nothing is".

Flat Earth is a fucking retarded theory. Nobody in history has ever thought the Earth was flat, it's a mis-conception. (100% true, it was on QI)

But it does serve a purpose of painting all conspiracy theories as fucking retards. Same with Q. I believe it started off in the intelligence community. Someone found out and rather than shutting it down (admitting it was initially true) they took over the communications to make it so outlandish and stupid, that nobody would believe in that, ever again.

Clinton emails is another example of diversion.
I said this in another thread, and its worth repeating here. You will find that the 'flat earth' conspiracy is gaslighting via bot networks. Various forums were mostly this, with Reddit itself a notable example. Every roped in idiot makes the conspiracy stronger, even though anybody that understands basic geometry and how a sundial works can easily disprove flat earth.
I can't prove this, but I believe ops like this are for well poisoning. That is where a credible source is compared against a discredited one to discredit both (you believe in operation mockingbird? You are some conspiracy nutter like those flat earthers!). Its another tool the MsM uses to keep control over the narrative.

With that said, you will find out a lot of conspiracies that you wrote off as bullshit are very much true if you seek the means to answer the questions yourself. The moon landings are visible through observation telescopes, and 'chem trails' are observable with a good pair of binoculars (pay attention to engine count vs trails).

This leads you down a very ugly rabbit hole when you start directly questioning shit in this manner, you have been warned.
 
I can't prove this, but I believe ops like this are for well poisoning. That is where a credible source is compared against a discredited one to discredit both
Someone wrote a dissertation on this, got hired by cia and it was removed from the journals.

Not flat earth, but just an analysis of easy ways of well poisoning (without using that term). I need to look up the guy's name again sometime.

I saw it a lot during pizzagate, though it's hard to tell the schizophrenics from the disinfo agents (though sometimes possible because the latter are more structured).
 
I said this in another thread, and its worth repeating here. You will find that the 'flat earth' conspiracy is gaslighting via bot networks. Various forums were mostly this, with Reddit itself a notable example. Every roped in idiot makes the conspiracy stronger, even though anybody that understands basic geometry and how a sundial works can easily disprove flat earth.
I can't prove this, but I believe ops like this are for well poisoning. That is where a credible source is compared against a discredited one to discredit both (you believe in operation mockingbird? You are some conspiracy nutter like those flat earthers!). Its another tool the MsM uses to keep control over the narrative.

With that said, you will find out a lot of conspiracies that you wrote off as bullshit are very much true if you seek the means to answer the questions yourself. The moon landings are visible through observation telescopes, and 'chem trails' are observable with a good pair of binoculars (pay attention to engine count vs trails).

This leads you down a very ugly rabbit hole when you start directly questioning shit in this manner, you have been warned.
QAnon may unironically be another one of those types of controlled opposition operations aimed at discrediting a movement by creating a false image around it. What the fuck do people need riddles for? All the connections between Jeffrey Epstein and various prominent political and intelligence figures are well-established.


 
I said this in another thread, and its worth repeating here. You will find that the 'flat earth' conspiracy is gaslighting via bot networks. Various forums were mostly this, with Reddit itself a notable example. Every roped in idiot makes the conspiracy stronger, even though anybody that understands basic geometry and how a sundial works can easily disprove flat earth.
I can't prove this, but I believe ops like this are for well poisoning. That is where a credible source is compared against a discredited one to discredit both (you believe in operation mockingbird? You are some conspiracy nutter like those flat earthers!). Its another tool the MsM uses to keep control over the narrative.

All very true
With that said, you will find out a lot of conspiracies that you wrote off as bullshit are very much true if you seek the means to answer the questions yourself. The moon landings are visible through observation telescopes, and 'chem trails' are observable with a good pair of binoculars (pay attention to engine count vs trails).
How do you mean observable? I've no doubt we can get to the moon and back (probably) nowadays. Not in the 60's though.

Chemtrails are a funny one. It was only made a conspiracy by conspiracy theorists. Chem trails are true, exist, have been acknowledged and can be even purchased! It's called cloud seeding, and it's about encouraging weather patterns to produce rain, and to reflect some sun away from the Earth (the second bit is true and absolutely as bonkers as it sounds)
This leads you down a very ugly rabbit hole when you start directly questioning shit in this manner, you have been warned.
I question everything. I have a good sense of 'this ain't right', which leads me to ask 'Why?'. Questioning doesn't make you popular though, that's the only draw back! I can't just sit back and enjoy choking down the bullshit like everyone else!
 
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