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Conspiracy theories are no longer the domain of lovable weirdos tracking Bigfoot - they're a sinister problem​

Charles Davis
Thu, May 20, 2021, 12:17 AM·8 min read


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A man holds up a "Q" sign while waiting in line to see President Donald J. Trump at his rally on August 2, 2018 in Wilkes Barre, Pennsylvania. Rick Loomis/Getty Images
As a teen who objected to sleeping at a decent hour, I would often lay in bed, fire up the shortwave transmitter from RadioShack, and listen to a total crank named Art Bell tell me that Bigfoot was real. Before there was YouTube, there was "Coast to Coast AM," Bell's multi-hour program on all things paranormal.
Conspiracy theories, as I understood them back then, were good, clean, frivolous entertainment - secret government teleportation programs, powered by alien technology, and interdimensional animals linked to the disappearance of cattle in the American southwest. It was science fiction with an additional element of fun: What if it's actually real?
In 2021, conspiracy theories are no longer a source of amusement, nor are leading purveyors mere harmless weirdos. What was once AM-radio "Star Trek" is now state-sponsored disinformation and plagiarized anti-Semitism - a global cabal of cosmopolitan elites conspiring to abuse children - serving the interests of the world's most powerful people, with heads of state and big tech companies profiting whenever someone new goes down the rabbit hole.

The popular, modern-day shills for conspiracism deal in much darker fare than a gift shop in Roswell​

Dave Neiwert, a long-time investigative journalist and chronicler of the far-right, told Insider that the appeal of conspiracy theories is the key to not just understanding but combating the rise of conspiracism.
People, particularly those with authoritarian tendencies - on either the left or the right - desire simple explanations for complex phenomena that flatter their existing beliefs. And the darker the allegation, the more noble an "independent journalist" or Facebook user can feel in their crusade against mainstream notions of truth.
"Heroism is really a key component," Neiwert told me over the phone, laying out the thrust of his most recent book, "Red Pill, Blue Pill: How to Counteract the Conspiracy Theories That Are Killing Us."
The most popular genre of films is comic book characters engaged in binary combat: good versus evil. "I think we are seeing an America that's increasingly educated to be heroes," he said.
But most of us aren't heroes.
Enter, then, the world of forbidden enlightenment; a select, online minority of people who get it - who can decode the seemingly banal and uncover the supposed evil within.
"One of the things that really offers is the sense that you are heroically saving the world by advancing this secret knowledge that's been suppressed," Neiwert said.
In the case of QAnon, a conspiracy theory which holds that an anonymous account on the internet reflected the insights of a high-ranking state official with the goods that Donald Trump was too modest to share, "people really see themselves as saving these children who are victimized by the global pedophilia ring, and against these nefarious conspirators."

It's not the encyclopedic knowledge of the conspiracy theorists that attracts followers, either.​

"Particularly, post-9/11, it has reached a sort of new form where it is completely evidence-free," Neiwert commented. It doesn't matter that "Q" followers, yesterday, believed Hillary Clinton's arrest was imminent, but what they believe, today, that holds together the online social club. Much more important than the truth of a prophecy is what the belief enables and justifies: the failures of the politicians they support - the deep state stopped it - and the belief that those who stand against them are irredeemable (in the case of QAnon, satanic, even). The group identity comes not from vindication that never comes, but in the persistent opposition to the hated and dehumanized "other," whether it's milquetoast liberals or Chinese communists.
That's one of several curiosities about today's conspiratorial mindset. Once upon a time, the en-vogue political conspiracy theories used to be oppositional. They did not echo, precisely, what one could hear a president (or now-former president) of the United States. (Fringe views are in Congress, including Georgia's Majorie Taylor Greene or Colorado's Lauren Boebert who are sympathetic to QAnon.)
That could not be said of the theories popularized since 2016, crafted to defend elite failures and amplified by the world's most powerful people.
Under the guise of standing up to the establishment, far-right conspiracy theorists promoted the idea that the opposition party rigged a plebiscite and argued the former president should impose military rule to remain in power, culminating in the violent January 6 attack on democracy and the US Capitol.

Not everything that gets labeled a 'conspiracy theory' actually is one: Real conspiracies have limitations.​

"There are three limitations in real conspiracies that do not exist in conspiracy theories," Neiwert told Insider. "First is limitation in time: Conspiracy theories, such as the 'Protocols of the Elders of Zion' or the 'New World Order' - these go on for years and years and years, whereas most conspiracies that we actually know of are very limited in time."
"Secondly," Neiwert said, "they are very limited in the numbers of actors who participate. The real conspiracies that we know of involve very few actual conspirators, mainly because they can only exist as long as it's secret - and the more people you have involved, the sooner that secret is going away."
"And then the third," per Neiwert, "unreliable conspiracy theories propose things that are basically global in reach, affecting massive numbers of people, whereas as a real conspiracy only affects a limited scope."

Social media has to be part of the solution​

One thing about conspiracy theorists, these days, is that they are gravely online, speaking to potentially millions of people who have clicked "like" and "subscribe."
You can spend weeks trying to pull a family member back from the brink of "false flags" and pedophile cults and "PsyOps," a process, Neiwert counsels, that will require patience, empathy, and a good deal of energy; in the meantime, however, for every person brought of the fog thousands more will have been radicalized by a viral meme.
"There's gotta be social media reform," Neiwert argued, saying the rise of viral posts has led to the worst proliferation of conspiracy thinking he's seen since he started following the stuff in the 1990s.
Social media companies have been loath to do much about this, as removing influential conspiracy theorists from a platform is also removing a source of revenue. It took a failed coup d'etat, resulting in a handful of deaths and hundreds of injuries, to really drive home the urgency, with Twitter and Facebook then banning a president and many of his followers from their platforms. In the free market, ad revenue is ad revenue, even if it aids the rise of violent extremism.
The obvious risk of a harder line from social media companies is that legitimately differing opinions could be tossed in the same bin as the harmful cranks.
Conservative politicians have portrayed "Big Tech" as eager to silence dissenting voices, ignoring the fact that those voices only first went viral because of earlier content decisions. Indeed, Facebook only started removing groups that promote QAnon and right-wing paramilitary organizations after first coddling the far right out of fear of GOP backlash.
At the same time, recognizing that declining to grant someone a free platform is not quite the same as silencing them, is important. The present risk of fringe conspiracies on the digital equivalent of the front page can also not be ignored. Malicious actors are currently exploiting popular platforms for cynical purposes.
Any regulation of speech requires constant vigilance; there are always pitfalls. But consider, also, the status quo and its record: state actors using stolen emails, ripped out of context by partisan actors like WikiLeaks, to tilt an election; a genocide in Myanmar fueled by anti-Muslim disinformation posted by that country's military; and a violent extremist in New Zealand live-streaming mass murder after being radicalized with the help of YouTube.
Belated efforts to confront this read more like public relations - a tag on a video, post, or tweet saying that the content above is disputed.
Unemployed journalists, displaced by social media, could be employed to identify and stop the plainly false from gaining traction. Misinformation, unchecked, "is what makes conspiracy theories go and what gives them their toxic power," Neiwert said, "making it impossible for people to come to an agreement on what's factual and what's not."

 
They tell ridiculous lies all the time and want to push the blame on us.

I don't care about your fetishist fantasy of hidden jews controlling the world.
Um, excuse me? My fetishist fantasy is that there's like tons of big tribal women (Like the one from crono trigger) and they rub their feet all over me.
 
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The only conspiracy theories allowed are those approved to Protect Our Democracy ™️ ! Russia collusion? The Steele Dossier? The January 6 INSURRECTION? All acceptable.

Question the SCIENCE of the WuFlu? Finding some sketchy things about the 2020 Presidential election? Super dangerous to OUR DEMOCRACY™️.
 
How many years do we have left before thoughtcrime is an actual thing in America? It's technically not 'speech' if the words never leave your head after all.
 
In a way. There is a documentary movie on YouTube Movie (Free Section) called Mirage Men, that's based on US Air Force/Intelligence which would infiltrate UFO groups, that would always be watching Area 51, with the goal to make these groups look like lunatics by getting them to spew wild ideas. Not sure how much of the documentary is actually true, but it was interesting.
Maybe they just made this documentary and paranoia did the rest
 
Yeah, those Bigfoot truthers are a menace to society. Jk I didn’t have to read the article, but I know they talked about the Capitol Hill riots. I mean, if the apex of danger with the conspiracy community was a gaggle of retards breaking in to a government facility, causing only property damage and then getting shot at, I don’t know if they’re as big of a problem as this article is letting on.
 
The enemy that shall be destroyed.

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Every few years the billionaire owners of the MSM will tell their leftist peon slaves that work for them what conspiracy theories are real and which aren't. Five years ago UFOs only existed in the minds of crazy people but today the MSM considers them real because that will enrich the billionaire owner of Bigelow Aerospace, Robert Bigelow, who just so happens to be a close personal friend of democrat senators. See how this works?
 
Pretty fucking annoying how a fun past-time of chatting shit about loch-ness monster, big-foot

Those aren't conspiracy, those are cryptids.

Conspiracy is two or more entities working together on a clandestine operation. You'd probably be more comfortable in High Strangeness then conspiracy if that's what you are looking for.

I find it strange how lately they keep trying to associate Bigfoot with conspiracy theory. A huffpo article used the exact same example as well.
 
The only conspiracy theories allowed are those approved to Protect Our Democracy ™️ ! Russia collusion? The Steele Dossier? The January 6 INSURRECTION? All acceptable.

Question the SCIENCE of the WuFlu? Finding some sketchy things about the 2020 Presidential election? Super dangerous to OUR DEMOCRACY™️.
Reminds me of an article from months ago where they were yelling at the chilluns for dissenting in an inappropriate way. They quoted some middle aged white woman as saying "Why don't kids just smoke pot like we did?"

If a certain type of dissent is controlled, sublimated and propagated by the state, is it really dissent? Something to think about for 5 seconds.
 
Those aren't conspiracy, those are cryptids.

Conspiracy is two or more entities working together on a clandestine operation. You'd probably be more comfortable in High Strangeness then conspiracy if that's what you are looking for.

I find it strange how lately they keep trying to associate Bigfoot with conspiracy theory. A huffpo article used the exact same example as well.
I've always just lumped all of that stuff in with conspiracy theories. I get that a conspiracy is a group of people trying to do some shady shit without people knowing, but i class it all as "unknown shit that's fun to talk about".

I suppose, if i wanted to be a dick, i could class bigfoot as a conspiracy theory, in that the government are trying to hide bigfoot (or creatures like it) from public knowledge, so that the scientists can study it in peace (i know they aren't technically scientists, but again i like to lump it all together because my dumb-dumb brain keeps things simple)
 
The only conspiracy theories allowed are those approved to Protect Our Democracy ™️ ! Russia collusion? The Steele Dossier? The January 6 INSURRECTION? All acceptable.

Question the SCIENCE of the WuFlu? Finding some sketchy things about the 2020 Presidential election? Super dangerous to OUR DEMOCRACY™️.
lol calm down
 
All you zoomers complaining about 2016 politics invading your heckin wholesome conspiracy sites forget how political those same sites and social circles were decades prior. JFK, Moon Landings, Gulf War, 9/11, War on Terror. These were not politically neutral events.

Q is annoying for other reasons, namely all the BUY MY BOOK types that took advantage of it. What was and should have stayed a larp on /pol/ turned into a profitable grift industry.
 
All you zoomers complaining about 2016 politics invading your heckin wholesome conspiracy sites forget how political those same sites and social circles were decades prior. JFK, Moon Landings, Gulf War, 9/11, War on Terror. These were not politically neutral events.

Q is annoying for other reasons, namely all the BUY MY BOOK types that took advantage of it. What was and should have stayed a larp on /pol/ turned into a profitable grift industry.
I don't know what a zoomer is but political and 'political' are too different things (imo) in the conspiracy world. 9/11, moon landing and JFK were not 'political' they just involved politics. As the faggots would say, they are 'politics-adjacent'. These theories/events affected more than just America, these had world-wide ramifications .

Trump conspiracies and the like, on the other hand, are just the run of the mill political conspiracies that crop up all of the damned time. Obama was inciting race riots, Bush was a Nazi, Biden is a dementia riddled puppet owned by China, Trump is a puppet owned by Russia etc, etc, etc, these aren't conspiracies, they're just political mud slinging as it means very, very little on the world stage. For example, the Gulf War was a clean-up job because Saddamn - who was put in place by UK and USA - had gone rogue and bit the hand that fed him.

That's how i classify it anyway.
 
Imagine a guy comes up to you and tells you that the CIA is paying journalists to run false news stories, with the goal of shaping public perception a certain way. Sounds crazy, right? Project Mockingbird was confirmed to have happened. How about if a guy tells you that the CIA is feeding people copious amounts of LSD in an effort to crack the secrets of mind control? MKUltra was also confirmed. What if a guy tells you that the CIA pitched an idea to JFK, where they would bomb American citizens as an excuse to go to war against Cuba? Oh, right, that was called Operation Northwoods, and was also confirmed to have happened. Why was Bush Sr standing outside the infamous book depository on the day of Kennedy's death, but would later claim to not remember where he was that day? Why have numerous politicians, celebrities, and royal family members gone to the private island of a convicted child trafficker, who then "killed himself" in prison? How deep did the connections between Oprah Winfrey and John of God, who got busted for running a baby farm, really go? Why was Billy Gates hanging around Jeffrey Epstein after his initial convictions for sex trafficking? Yeah, some conspiracy theories are fucking stupid, but there are a lot of them that later turned out to be true. Painting them all with such a broad brush is asinine, especially after these slimy fucks bombarded us with conspiracy theories about Russia for four solid years. But I forgot, it's only a silly conspiracy theory when it makes the left look bad. When the target is on the right, then it's definitely a true fact
 
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