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Oh.
Oh no.

On a side not, does she not have ankles? Or is that just because babies or squishy. No who am I kidding there's no damn ankles.

Put the poor thing out of its misery and let the soul try again or something.

She’s well beyond squishy. Her limbs are SO abnormally short, even for dwarfism, and yet her body still wants to grow enough skin for regular sized arms and legs. I have no idea whether her limbs have joints tbh. I dread to think what her x rays look like.

Edit: forgot to mention that her mother says Paisley’s case in being written up in a big medical journal, and she hopes it will help parents who receive a diagnosis of Thanatophoric Dysplasia in utero make informed decisions.
 
Fucking rant incoming, not sorry. I'm a Christian and 97-ish% pro-life person, and these "Praise be to God" mothers make me SICK, they disgust me. How they embrace these literally-cannot-live-without-hundreds-of-types of medical doo-dads, resources and equipment, surgeries that are probably torture (at least for whatever the brainstem senses) is sadistic.
This is pretty much where I'm at.

I'm Catholic. I teach RCIA. Our catechists consist of two MDs and a lawyer. Abortion always comes up and we have some incredibly deep discussions about the ethical implications of, well, carrying a tater to term. Personally I'm of the mindset that any fetus that cannot meaningfully feel anything but pain should be aborted. This isn't something like DS or autism or CF. The parents are responsible for deciding what's best for the child, and uploading videos of your baby seizing to the internet ain't it.
 
She’s well beyond squishy. Her limbs are SO abnormally short, even for dwarfism, and yet her body still wants to grow enough skin for regular sized arms and legs. I have no idea whether her limbs have joints tbh. I dread to think what her x rays look like.
Did a post on a bit about the disorder elsewhere:

And some skeletal images:
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And a bit of a break down on the skeletal differences:

Radiological Breakdown of Thanatophoric Dysplasia
 
$24 million... for a baby who has to be resuscitated every damn day. They should have let her die months ago.
While I know you can't put a price on a human life, the money that has been wasted on keeping Tinslee "alive" could have paid for, for instance, how many women's prenatal care, how many Pap smears or mammograms, or prostate cancer screenings, or vaccines of all types, or.....or......or.....
 
Every once in a while I like to check on Gwen Hartley to see what she's doing post-potato and I'm happy to report that today was Cal's graduation day! And how did Gwen celebrate this milestone in her only functional and surviving child's life? By posting one story that made his accomplishments all about his sister, in a series of 4-5 posts that were all about his sisters of course!

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It's been a year and a half since Lola died and she still posts daily about how much she misses them, how great they were, and how lost she is without them. It's really a shame the thread got shut down because Gwen was always the real cow and she's still going strong.
 
Every once in a while I like to check on Gwen Hartley to see what she's doing post-potato and I'm happy to report that today was Cal's graduation day! And how did Gwen celebrate this milestone in her only functional and surviving child's life? By posting one story that made his accomplishments all about his sister, in a series of 4-5 posts that were all about his sisters of course!

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It's been a year and a half since Lola died and she still posts daily about how much she misses them, how great they were, and how lost she is without them. It's really a shame the thread got shut down because Gwen was always the real cow and she's still going strong.
If Cal ever gets married I expect paragraphs about how the goblins would've made great bridesmaids. And pictures from that time they were grotesque flower girls at someone's wedding.
 
Every once in a while I like to check on Gwen Hartley to see what she's doing post-potato and I'm happy to report that today was Cal's graduation day! And how did Gwen celebrate this milestone in her only functional and surviving child's life? By posting one story that made his accomplishments all about his sister, in a series of 4-5 posts that were all about his sisters of course!

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It's been a year and a half since Lola died and she still posts daily about how much she misses them, how great they were, and how lost she is without them. It's really a shame the thread got shut down because Gwen was always the real cow and she's still going strong.
I do wonder what Gwen would be doing if Claire and/or Lola were still alive right now. How would she handle the pandemic?
 
This is pretty much where I'm at.

I'm Catholic. I teach RCIA. Our catechists consist of two MDs and a lawyer. Abortion always comes up and we have some incredibly deep discussions about the ethical implications of, well, carrying a tater to term. Personally I'm of the mindset that any fetus that cannot meaningfully feel anything but pain should be aborted. This isn't something like DS or autism or CF. The parents are responsible for deciding what's best for the child, and uploading videos of your baby seizing to the internet ain't it.
Pro life people talking about taters usually make me mad. Lot of them seem to think all disabilities are relatively mild DS. And I see a lot of ‘why are you ableist why do you think having a disabled child is bad’, but every pro life woman I know abstains from alcohol while pregnant and takes prenatal vitamins because...having a disabled child is bad.
When other pro choice people say things like ‘having a child will ruin a woman’s life if she’s in (x situation)’, I normally think that’s a bad take. But a severely disabled child really will ruin a woman’s life, because that’s potentially 60+ years of 24/7 nursing care.
 
I decided to check on Paisley and her tortured existence looks as grim as ever. Compare the width of her abdomen compared with her minuscule rib cage...

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Holy shit I needed a TW for this hideous creature. There's so many fugly potatoes but this one, it really repulses me more than a lot of them. And they're all fucking gross. Back in ye olden days this kind of a demon spawn would have been left in the woods to die with the mom praying she wouldn't be burned at the stake for giving birth to it.
 
This is pretty much where I'm at.

I'm Catholic. I teach RCIA. Our catechists consist of two MDs and a lawyer. Abortion always comes up and we have some incredibly deep discussions about the ethical implications of, well, carrying a tater to term. Personally I'm of the mindset that any fetus that cannot meaningfully feel anything but pain should be aborted. This isn't something like DS or autism or CF. The parents are responsible for deciding what's best for the child, and uploading videos of your baby seizing to the internet ain't it.
I agree, and I also think that it's understandable to abort a fetus with "just" DS, autism, or CF. The child might be able to have a meaningful life and enjoy certain things, but they will also suffer even more than the average person, and in the case of DS or CF, they will die before their peers, usually after years of decline and constantly escalating, invasive medical procedures. I know that you know that a major source of burnout in the peds field is the feeling that at some point, you're doing something "to" your patients rather than "for" them, and unlike adults, they can't decide when they want it to stop. A work acquaintance of mine was a peds RN but switched to the path lab because she couldn't deal with making kids hurt day in and day out for her whole career, even if that pain was temporary and ultimately beneficial. In the case of genetic diseases like cystic fibrosis or Down syndrome, treatment may help a patient get better temporarily, but the underlying condition means that there's never an end to the interventions. Eventually, the hospital stays and invasive procedures get closer and closer together.

I think it is okay to want to spare a child that.
 
While I know you can't put a price on a human life, the money that has been wasted on keeping Tinslee "alive" could have paid for, for instance, how many women's prenatal care, how many Pap smears or mammograms, or prostate cancer screenings, or vaccines of all types, or.....or......or.....
Even if it went towards none of those things, and a good chunk of it is going out of mommy’s pocket that she’d rather die than spend on anything medically practical or even sound—it would be enough just to put the girl out of her suffering.
 
She looks like a doll that's in constant pain. Christ.

there is another TD kid out there..Samuel. Mom is a prolife Christian but at least Samuel seems happy and smiles, Paisley just looks miserable constantly.

Samuel has hydrocephalus but it seems non progressive unlike Luna. Not sure how Paisley is mentally but Samuel seems to be only a semi potato
 
I agree, and I also think that it's understandable to abort a fetus with "just" DS, autism, or CF. The child might be able to have a meaningful life and enjoy certain things, but they will also suffer even more than the average person, and in the case of DS or CF, they will die before their peers, usually after years of decline and constantly escalating, invasive medical procedures. I know that you know that a major source of burnout in the peds field is the feeling that at some point, you're doing something "to" your patients rather than "for" them, and unlike adults, they can't decide when they want it to stop. A work acquaintance of mine was a peds RN but switched to the path lab because she couldn't deal with making kids hurt day in and day out for her whole career, even if that pain was temporary and ultimately beneficial. In the case of genetic diseases like cystic fibrosis or Down syndrome, treatment may help a patient get better temporarily, but the underlying condition means that there's never an end to the interventions. Eventually, the hospital stays and invasive procedures get closer and closer together.

I think it is okay to want to spare a child that.
You also can never tell in utero what exactly the degree of their handicap is. Iv seen very great functioning people with DS but then others who are very very debilitated.
 
Holy shit I needed a TW for this hideous creature. There's so many fugly potatoes but this one, it really repulses me more than a lot of them. And they're all fucking gross. Back in ye olden days this kind of a demon spawn would have been left in the woods to die with the mom praying she wouldn't be burned at the stake for giving birth to it.

there is another TD kid out there..Samuel. Mom is a prolife Christian but at least Samuel seems happy and smiles, Paisley just looks miserable constantly.

Samuel has hydrocephalus but it seems non progressive unlike Luna. Not sure how Paisley is mentally but Samuel seems to be only a semi potato
80% have normal intelligence if i remember right. The disorder itself does not cause issues with intelligence, but the lack of oxygen at birth can if they are not prepared (anyone getting an amnio or ultrasound would know far in advance their baby has this)

As for the hydro its common in dwarfism and regardless of hydro or not this disorder causes "larger heads".

Paisley's mom has been doing a q&a about her in instas and she seems pretty logical about her daughers limitations she just likes to use said daughter to sell avon, mary kay, tumblers, etc.
 
I agree, and I also think that it's understandable to abort a fetus with "just" DS, autism, or CF. The child might be able to have a meaningful life and enjoy certain things, but they will also suffer even more than the average person, and in the case of DS or CF, they will die before their peers, usually after years of decline and constantly escalating, invasive medical procedures. I know that you know that a major source of burnout in the peds field is the feeling that at some point, you're doing something "to" your patients rather than "for" them, and unlike adults, they can't decide when they want it to stop. A work acquaintance of mine was a peds RN but switched to the path lab because she couldn't deal with making kids hurt day in and day out for her whole career, even if that pain was temporary and ultimately beneficial. In the case of genetic diseases like cystic fibrosis or Down syndrome, treatment may help a patient get better temporarily, but the underlying condition means that there's never an end to the interventions. Eventually, the hospital stays and invasive procedures get closer and closer together.

I think it is okay to want to spare a child that.
I recently heard a doctor on You Tube talk about his least favorite specialties, based on his experience during rotations, and Numero Uno was the one he went to medical school intending to do, and that was pediatrics. In his chosen specialty, he does sometimes treat children, and he doesn't mind because that's not what he does all day long. For him, the issue was that his patients could not consent to treatment, and many of them couldn't tell him what was ailing them, and dealing with parents is no picnic either.

He added that there were a lot of parallels between that and what his brother, a veterinarian, does all day.
 
DS can be as mild as slight delays and fair physical health to severely impaired with a low quality of life.
Someone I know willingly adopted a boy with DS. He required heart surgeries as an infant and was getting stronger and then had a massive stroke out of nowhere. Now this 16 yr old is non verbal and partially paralyzed.He is 16 and weighs 300 pounds now she can't handle him. Her child's life is basically diaper changes, and multiple therapists doing pt and it that will be absolutely pointless with this kid.
 
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