🤮 Gross Kelly Ronahan - Vampire Munchie Who Destroyed Her Own Legs

[AOCsBigTeeth]

I definitely think her eyes may have contributed to her mental illness (not the other way around). Women cannot handle being unattractive, it destroys their self esteem/ self worth. She would need to find validation for things other than her looks. If she found it in maladaptive behavior she’d just escalate the behavior if it made her feel better about herself.

 

[Hyacinth Bucket (Bouquet)]

I posted pics of her yesterday in a wheelchair labeled with the number for the Kelowna General Hospital. She's not at VGH.

Well it’s good to know that the fine people of the interior can have their rotting limbs removed at home.

 

[fenny]

If you wouldn't have put your dick in the leg hole, you are a coward and don't deserve to call yourself a kiwi.

 

[Fistf#cker2020]

I definitely think her eyes may have contributed to her mental illness (not the other way around). Women cannot handle being unattractive, it destroys their self esteem/ self worth. She would need to find validation for things other than her looks. If she found it in maladaptive behavior she’d just escalate the behavior if it made her feel better about her

I definitely think her eyes may have contributed to her mental illness (not the other way around). Women cannot handle being unattractive, it destroys their self esteem/ self worth. She would need to find validation for things other than her looks. If she found it in maladaptive behavior she’d just escalate the behavior if it made her feel better about herself.

You’re fucking retarded.

 

[cuddle striker]

If you wouldn't have put your dick in the leg hole, you are a coward and don't deserve to call yourself a kiwi.

Kelly's leg wound was fat and I would not have sex with it.

 

[lamp shade]

I definitely think her eyes may have contributed to her mental illness (not the other way around). Women cannot handle being unattractive, it destroys their self esteem/ self worth. She would need to find validation for things other than her looks. If she found it in maladaptive behavior she’d just escalate the behavior if it made her feel better about herself.

Kelly was doing this shit long before her eyes decided to depart.

 

[Red Velvet Frappe]

Kelly will be a bitch in a long term facility. She's the type to use the call button constantly, complain when the understaffed and underpaid aids don't get there soon enough. Then, she'll complain that the aids are avoiding her, and try to claim some sort of neglect/abuse.

If not that, then she'll pester the nurses with tests after tests and make them call the doctor. She'll complain of everything under the sun, but I can see her claiming neglect/abuse. Might try to call the cops on them, it's not unheard of. You wouldn't believe the amount of people who try to call the cops while they're in the nursing home.

I imagine after getting kicked around from care facility to care facility, she'll get a reputation because these places talk. She'll get barred at any long term care worth it's salt, and she ends up in the one that actually has terrible care.

 

[LobsterClawsForBreakfast]

I am personally of the opinion that a person buys sex precisely because they get off on hurting their sexual partner.

Back to Kelly, I think in another lifetime she would be a garden variety heroin addict, except these days meth is all the rage and heroin is on the decline, I think.

Kelly is also very vain and heroin ages you like nothing else, so she might do what all the other girls do and go on a sad codeine addiction.

I don't know why people assume Kelly is the type to be annoying. Her hospital room does not appear to be particularly cluttered with accoutrements of annoying person.

The reason she photographs or records herself and shows people on the internet is probably because she isn't getting attention from the hospital staff and left to her own devices a lot.

Spoiler: annoying patients

Actually annoying patients know exactly how to maximise their hospital stay, and bring in shit like knitting or gunpla or warhammer kits, and abuse the nurse call button to get them to fetch stuff.

These annoyance objects also go in and out of fashion as well. You can imagine how pissed off we were when we discovered we just saw the end of adult colouring books only to find diamond painting is now a thing.

For most people who unexpectedly have a long hospital stay, we have a library (cart with books and kindle in protective case), some choice dvds (Andre Rieu box set, nurses tell me the geriatric ladies love it) and a wheel in console station for the kids (It has a Nintendo 64 and a Playstation 2).

You walk into the room and see one of those carts, you know this patient is annoying, and if you have been paged there, it's because the nurses have had enough.

My personal best was a stripper pole (unsure if stripper was the patient or a visitor). It did the same thing the meth addict did - punch through the ceiling.

I don’t know, maybe if Kelly had something to keep her busy she’d leave the poor nurses alone. On the other hand, I dread to think what she could do to herself with a spare half an hour and a knitting needle.

 

[High Hedgie]

While I can see why giving a patient who is a munchie anything that they can injure themselves with is a bad idea, I am completely confused how adult coloring books and knitting annoys anyone. Both are completely quiet activities. I've carried a coloring postcard book to doctors' offices with a pack of colored pencils before because you never know whether your wait will be 15 minutes or 2 hours and anymore the offices around here ask you not use your phone because of people taking pictures and video in the waiting room of other patients. I'm not sure how me sitting there quietly coloring at a side table was annoying anyone else in the waiting room, let alone the receptionist or nurse?

As far as Kelly, I hope that maybe someone that actually cares for this woman will get her help. As much as her family claims to care for her, she seems all alone out there. I think that says a lot. I know everyone's family dynamics are different and I only know of her from this thread...and I will admit to skimming some of the pages more than others that I read more in depths, but I would think that most people would have had someone that cared about them step in long before now. Kind of like when you have the relative with dementia that is a danger to themselves. I find it sad because it is clear that Kelly is seriously mentally ill and cannot admit it. And I know, sometimes you cannot save someone from themselves.

 

[owo whats this 42069]

As far as Kelly, I hope that maybe someone that actually cares for this woman will get her help. As much as her family claims to care for her, she seems all alone out there. I think that says a lot. I know everyone's family dynamics are different and I only know of her from this thread...and I will admit to skimming some of the pages more than others that I read more in depths, but I would think that most people would have had someone that cared about them step in long before now. Kind of like when you have the relative with dementia that is a danger to themselves. I find it sad because it is clear that Kelly is seriously mentally ill and cannot admit it. And I know, sometimes you cannot save someone from themselves.

Unfortunately factitious disorder/munchausen seems to be one of those things where you really can't save the afflicted. Even if you could, that would require actually wanting to get better, and Kelly just doesn't. I think it's probably for the best that her family isn't wasting their energy filling a bottomless pothole.

 

[DumbDude42]

Unfortunately factitious disorder/munchausen seems to be one of those things where you really can't save the afflicted. Even if you could, that would require actually wanting to get better, and Kelly just doesn't. I think it's probably for the best that her family isn't wasting their energy filling a bottomless pothole.

i think it would be cured if the person was cut off from any and all access to medical facilities for a while. where hospitals and doctors don't exist, munchies don't exist either.

but doing that would be severely illegal in most countries so RIP i guess

 

[GenociderSyo]

Unfortunately factitious disorder/munchausen seems to be one of those things where you really can't save the afflicted. Even if you could, that would require actually wanting to get better, and Kelly just doesn't. I think it's probably for the best that her family isn't wasting their energy filling a bottomless pothole.

For BPD, which she fits in addition to Munchausen. (Munchausen will make themselves sick or fake disorders, but they do not tend to maim themselves for the attention so shes got more going on then this alone) If you can actually get them to willingly do therapy aka involuntary commitment followed by IOP or partial. There is an 86% rate of reduction of symptoms and a 50% rate of remission of diagnosis by the latest numbers. This of course is optimal statistics, so yes there probably is a bleak situation but it is possible if treatment is consistent and uninterupted.

People with BPD will show serious self injurious behavior being used for attention. They also tend to have a high suicide rate because they like to use suicide as a manipulation of doctors and if ya attempt enough times at something your gonna suceed someday. It should be stated though they are not suicidal they just use it as a manipulation.

That BPD aspect of her behaviors has to be treated before you can even attempt to get her to be able to listen about the Muchausens.

 

[Aunt Carol]

I can understand if it's a bunch of messy stuff, but knitting? A couple of pens and a coloring book?

On annoying patients, unsure why knitting or coloring would be annoying it keeps the patient to themselves ususally. When I had an unexpected long stay I just had my laptop brought to me, pair of headphones and stayed out of the nurses hair.

I think the original post was an attempt to describe positive suitcase sign. It's one of those hard-to-define, know-it-when-you-see-it things.

Having something quiet to pass the time in the hospital is smart and reasonable. Laying out one of those aspirational 120-sets of markers and setting up a workspace to do kid-level crafts while you're on videochat/speakerphone is a warning sign of behavioral issues to come. I can't provide a line where it turns from one to the other (although I wasn't the one to bring it up), but it does seem like a real correlation.

 

[GenociderSyo]

I think the original post was an attempt to describe positive suitcase sign. It's one of those hard-to-define, know-it-when-you-see-it things.

Having something quiet to pass the time in the hospital is smart and reasonable. Laying out one of those aspirational 120-sets of markers and setting up a workspace to do kid-level crafts while you're on videochat/speakerphone is a warning sign of behavioral issues to come. I can't provide a line where it turns from one to the other (although I wasn't the one to bring it up), but it does seem like a real correlation.

That makes sense and never thought about someone setting up a huge ass enterprise in the room. Honestly when sick enough to be stuck there days on end working a computer to keep myself occupied with nurses coming every hour or so was exhausting enough.

 

[AssRock]

I think the original post was an attempt to describe positive suitcase sign. It's one of those hard-to-define, know-it-when-you-see-it things.

Having something quiet to pass the time in the hospital is smart and reasonable. Laying out one of those aspirational 120-sets of markers and setting up a workspace to do kid-level crafts while you're on videochat/speakerphone is a warning sign of behavioral issues to come. I can't provide a line where it turns from one to the other (although I wasn't the one to bring it up), but it does seem like a real correlation.

I actually agree with this a lot; there has to be a balance and there's a huge difference between setting up an entire art station and just having say, a sketchbook or a notepad or y'know, reasonable things for the hospital space and what you have. Especially when clutter can and is a hinderance for the nursing staff. But I don't think anyone will mind if someone has a twelve pack of markers and a coloring book.

It also has to be respective to the hospital surroundings; gunpla, 40k miniatures, diamond painting, all present a lot of easy to lose, small pieces that can, for any bed bound person, present a functionality issue. It's not a matter of who wants to run in and have to pick up someone's dropped bolter from the floor, but that it's taking away care from so many other patients who need help?

 

[Aunt Carol]

Bonus points for an activity that makes you seem sweet and innocent and giving/creative while not requiring much (read: any) skill. They're never knitting a complex pattern or drawing their own thing.

Basically, not all patients who do those things will be brats, but if you have a suspected brat and they pull that out... They're going to be difficult. Also I imagine the nurses would barely know someone did adult coloring books or whatever if they were well-behaved.

This hit the nail on the head. I'm also talking literal, rolling, suitcase sign. Bringing in a bunch of photographs to hang up on Day 1 of an admission through the ED. A patient who brings their own lamp. A bunch of written signs about how you must interact with the patient (and they're not demented or MR/DD). Things like that.

I knew a frequent flier who'd bring a rolling suitcase with a deeply stained 10-year-old Physician's Desk Reference, which she would take out and slam on the overbed table, but I never saw her open it. The rest of the space in the suitcase was full of pull-top cans of store-brand soup, with a few pairs of panties at the top. She also reported more than 20 allergies, including that insulin gave her diarrhea. She had legs like Kelly, actually, but a lot wetter, and lived for a very long time refusing most wound treatments and, in later years, amputation.

Staff isn't bothered by the coloring books themselves, they're just instinctively waiting for the other shoe to drop.

That's why I said serious knitters would keep it contained,

Dude you can't use the hard-r like that; this is a family website.

 

[VisceraNexus]

If you can actually get them to willingly do therapy aka involuntary commitment followed by IOP or partial. There is an 86% rate of reduction of symptoms and a 50% rate of remission of diagnosis by the latest numbers. This of course is optimal statistics, so yes there probably is a bleak situation but it is possible if treatment is consistent and uninterupted.

Right, it's just that it's a huge "if" with most Cluster B personality disorders. Even when they can admit to themselves that yes, they have a personality disorder and it can and should be treated, most simply do not want consistent treatment for their issues. The lack of commitment in BPD especially presents a monumental issue when it comes to actually staying in treatment consistently over a long period of time. Remission is very much possible, it's just incredibly difficult to actually pin a person with BPD down. Munchausen on top of that adds even more to the unlikelihood of full remission or recovery, especially given Kelly's track record of little to no dedication to actually treating her mental health issues. This issue comes up particularly often considering these patients tend to only receive thorough counseling in crisis, and often when they are involuntarily committed. (There are also some other issues with the longterm study of reoccurrence or remission of both conditions, as the rates found seem to vary pretty wildly.)

On another note, in my personal and fairly anecdotal experience with psychologists and other mental health counselors, I seem to have noticed a bias toward patients with Cluster B personality disorders. I can only imagine this impacts the outcome, even though mental health professionals are supposed to be unbiased. When educated on these disorders, professors and other clinicians seem to lay on the difficulty of treating these patients pretty thick, and most counselors have dealt with Cluster B's before and seem to have pretty frustrating and exhausting experiences with them, and many seemed to refer them to other counselors. I can empathize with that, but it was kind of interesting to see the general lack of enthusiasm or motivation to treat people who may be in similar situations to Kelly. Again, no statistical proof of this, just an observation from one person so that should be taken with a huge grain of salt.

 

[GenociderSyo]

Right, it's just that it's a huge "if" with most Cluster B personality disorders. Even when they can admit to themselves that yes, they have a personality disorder and it can and should be treated, most simply do not want consistent treatment for their issues. The lack of commitment in BPD especially presents a monumental issue when it comes to actually staying in treatment consistently over a long period of time. Remission is very much possible, it's just incredibly difficult to actually pin a person with BPD down. Munchausen on top of that adds even more to the unlikelihood of full remission or recovery, especially given Kelly's track record of little to no dedication to actually treating her mental health issues. This issue comes up particularly often considering these patients tend to only receive thorough counseling in crisis, and often when they are involuntarily committed. (There are also some other issues with the longterm study of reoccurrence or remission of both conditions, as the rates found seem to vary pretty wildly.)

On another note, in my personal and fairly anecdotal experience with psychologists and other mental health counselors, I seem to have noticed a bias toward patients with Cluster B personality disorders. I can only imagine this impacts the outcome, even though mental health professionals are supposed to be unbiased. When educated on these disorders, professors and other clinicians seem to lay on the difficulty of treating these patients pretty thick, and most counselors have dealt with Cluster B's before and seem to have pretty frustrating and exhausting experiences with them, and many seemed to refer them to other counselors. I can empathize with that, but it was kind of interesting to see the general lack of enthusiasm or motivation to treat people who may be in similar situations to Kelly. Again, no statistical proof of this, just an observation from one person so that should be taken with a huge grain of salt.

It is true they can burn people out fast. Not everyone is suited to deal with every diagnosis.

 

[Miss Misery]

Patient belongings must be inventoried.

Oh my GOD I didn't even think of that.

Like beyond the absurdity of frequent fliers bringing a bunch of bullshit to the ER like they're already expecting to be admitted, why should nurses be responsible for your property? If you're sick enough to be in the hospital then you're hopefully going to get enough drugs to destroy any boredom you might have. Otherwise just watch some tv or read a book, bitch.

 

[TheCakeIsALie]

if you're in good enough shape to do shit like painting then you shouldnt have come to a hospital in the first place tbh

people with cf get regular tune ups and bring shit for long stays cuz it is two weeks to a month stay. So in some cases it is warranted for adults. I can see it as not weird if you’re chronically ill and need admissions somewhat frequently.