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Toxic masculinity has reared its ugly head again in a new poll, which showed almost three quarters of men would choose to die a whole decade earlier over giving up meat.

The Australian survey was commissioned by No Meat May, a group that encourages people to give up meat for a month to combat climate change, global food scarcity, health problems and animal cruelty.

The poll, which included 1,000 respondents, found that almost half (47 per cent) of all participants thought of meat as a “masculine undertaking”, and almost three quarters (73 per cent) of men surveyed said they would rather die 10 years early than give up eating steaks and burgers.

Although a vast majority of respondents (81 per cent) said they cared about the climate crisis, 79 per cent said they were not willing to give up meat to combat it.

No Meat May co-founder Ryan Alexander told Green Queen: “Our survey alarmingly shows that Australian men are either not aware of any of these facts, don’t believe them, or simply don’t care.”

“We reckon it’s time to step up and reject outdated and damaging gender stereotypes around food,” he added.

The bizarre and toxic relationship between meat and masculinity has been going on for decades.

One 2018 study found that “men routinely incorporate red meat to preempt the negative emotional states caused by threats to masculinity”, and when Burger King released its plant-based Impossible Whopper last year, men even panicked about the soy protein burger causing them to spontaneously grow breasts.

A meat-free lifestyle is not the only way to save the planet that men think of as “feminine”.

In 2019, researchers found that straight men perceive using a reusable shopping bag as a “feminine” act, and would avoid recycling for fear of “looking gay”.

Further research published in the Journal of Consumer Research in 2016 also showed that men will become even less environmentally friendly if their masculinity is “threatened”.

When researchers showed men a “pink gift card with a floral design” and asked them to buy a lamp, backpack, and batteries, they chose products that were far worse for the environment than those presented with a plain gift card.

Researchers said: “Men may shun eco-friendly behaviour because of what it conveys about their masculinity.

“It’s not that men don’t care about the environment. But they also tend to want to feel macho, and they worry that eco-friendly behaviors might brand them as feminine.”
 
No Meat May co-founder Ryan Alexander told Green Queen: “Our survey alarmingly shows that Australian men are either not aware of any of these facts, don’t believe them, or simply don’t care.
Guilty as charged. Don't give a fuck. Steak, pork chops, chicken wings, all delicious. Enjoy your yard clippings and your gaia altar.
In 2019, researchers found that straight men perceive using a reusable shopping bag as a “feminine” act, and would avoid recycling for fear of “looking gay”.
Funny, I've never seen anyone recycle with a dick in his mouth.
 
That's because animal protein and the vitamins and minerals in animal-based fats such as dairy and eggs (never mind the actual meat!) are absolutely vital to human health. Its why vegans all look like shit because they're just barely above tofu-eating lions for what they're doing to their bodies with their diet.
Bogus:

David Haye (Vegan athlete)

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Fat McDonald's addict:

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Which one is more "healthy" and "masculine"?

There are health risks in a lot of things (including things that people conveniently neglect - hell, there are "health risks" in working out) - but the health risks in vegan diets are no where near the same ballpark as the health risks in being a morbidly obese, fast-food addicted fuck. (Much as how obesity is associated with low testosterone as well).

Not to mention that for most of human history, meat was a luxury which only the well-born had access to on a regular basis; if you were a serf or a peasant, you'd probably have had to survive on beans and rice and be lucky if one of the king's huntsmen was nice enough to throw you a leftover table scrap from the kitchen.

(Also in the Bible, Adam and Eve were vegan while they were in Eden - it was only after the fall of man that God permitted them to eat meat; gluttony is also a sin, being a vegan isn't).
 
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Vegan bodybuilder Brian Turner, over a three year span:

He apparently became one originally in an attempt to clear up acne (hence the ridiculous filter levels of the "before" still in the side-by-side comparison at the end).

The change between the two clips still kind of shocks me. All those piles of supplements he took (including injections, no doubt) couldn't prevent him from turning into a flaming soyboy. His voice went from rich and masculine to reedy and weak, all of his sex appeal gone.

It's just depressing.
 
Vegan bodybuilder Brian Turner, over a three year span:
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He apparently became one originally in an attempt to clear up acne (hence the ridiculous filter levels of the "before" still in the side-by-side comparison at the end).

The change between the two clips still kind of shocks me. All those piles of supplements he took (including injections, no doubt) couldn't prevent him from turning into a flaming soyboy. His voice went from rich and masculine to reedy and weak, all of his sex appeal gone.

It's just depressing.
Soy is estrogenic - I don't eat it, and it's basically just a trendy, overpriced novelty product - I'm pretty sure that most vegan dieters don't regularly consume it either as opposed to stuff like beans, legumes, grains, and such.

Even then, what are you comparing it to? This - are you saying that this example has more "masculine appeal" and better testosterone levels?

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But back to the OP, the article linked is from "PinkNews" (rated as hard-left bias / propaganda by Media Bias Fact Check), so I can't take it to seriously (much as how no one would use buzzwords like "toxic masculinity" in a sentence and expect to be taken seriously and not treated as a laughing stock):

 
Bogus:

David Haye (Vegan athlete)

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Fat McDonald's addict:

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Which one is more "healthy" and "masculine"?

There are health risks in a lot of things (including things that people conveniently neglect - hell, there are "health risks" in working out) - but the health risks in vegan diets are no where near the same ballpark as the health risks in being a morbidly obese, fast-food addicted fuck. (Much as how obesity is associated with low testosterone as well).

Not to mention that for most of human history, meat was a luxury which only the well-born had access to on a regular basis; if you were a serf or a peasant, you'd probably have had to survive on beans and rice and be lucky if one of the king's huntsmen was nice enough to throw you a leftover table scrap from the kitchen.

(Also in the Bible, Adam and Eve were vegan while they were in Eden - it was only after the fall of man that God permitted them to eat meat; gluttony is also a sin, being a vegan isn't).
A vegan diet can be healthy if planned properly and if you have the genetics for it. Some populations can much better adapt to a lack of certain animal fats than others. You can obtain complete proteins via plants but you have to know what to pair with what. You can supplement to acquire other vital nutrients like b12 for which there is no plant source.
You are kinda overstating the rarity of meat in human history. Prior to the advent of civilization, humans had a highly meat based diet (which is the actual majority of human history). If we're starting at the rise of civilization, meat was still fairly common, even for the poor, until you get around the medieval period where peasants could still hunt birds and whatnot on the landlord's property. Even that not being the case, milk and eggs were still common (though peasants were unlikely to slaughter the animals making these products). This was a fairly short period in history regardless which basically ended with the black plague. Meat started finding it's way on the poor man's plate much more often shortly after that.
 
"Would you rather live life to the fullest and enjoy yourself and live to 80 or live in fear and misery and live to 90"
 
A vegan diet can be healthy if planned properly and if you have the genetics for it. Some populations can much better adapt to a lack of certain animal fats than others. You can obtain complete proteins via plants but you have to know what to pair with what. You can supplement to acquire other vital nutrients like b12 for which there is no plant source.
You are kinda overstating the rarity of meat in human history. Prior to the advent of civilization, humans had a highly meat based diet (which is the actual majority of human history). If we're starting at the rise of civilization, meat was still fairly common, even for the poor, until you get around the medieval period where peasants could still hunt birds and whatnot on the landlord's property. Even that not being the case, milk and eggs were still common (though peasants were unlikely to slaughter the animals making these products). This was a fairly short period in history regardless which basically ended with the black plague. Meat started finding it's way on the poor man's plate much more often shortly after that.
i agree, but even then I think that dairy products like eggs would have been much more readily available to the peasant class than game meat would have. (Even today, meat is normally much more expensive than plant-based products and dairy since it's more harder and more costly to regularly procure).

So yes, going without any animal products whatsoever is a bit divergent - nevertheless I don't see how anyone could intellectually honestly compare the health risks of vegan diets to the rampant obesity and other health problems which modern Americans and Westerners are enduring.
 
Are these people trying to fat shame guys?
Fat shaming is healthy.

Why should people who eat enough in 1 meal to feed a starving family in Africa for a week be entitled to "feel good" about themselves? Everyone has vices, but these morbidly obese fatasses should just own up to what it is rather than trying to pretend it's good for them or anyone else.

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Men the world over have always looked to animals as symbols of strength and valor, and for inspiration thereof. And among the most referenced have always been animals like lions, tigers, wolves, eagles and bears. All meat eaters.

As I've said before, most all creatures that strictly eat only plants also get eaten by other animals as well, animals like...the above mentioned. So no, you're never going to get men aside from soys to stop fucking eating meat. Ban beef and Bambi is just going to replace it. Whitetails are overpopulated as it is right now, but watch as all those pesky nibblers in everyone's gardens and flowers will practically disappear overnight. I'm hoping they won't become a threatened species again, though...
 
When researchers showed men a “pink gift card with a floral design” and asked them to buy a lamp, backpack, and batteries, they chose products that were far worse for the environment than those presented with a plain gift card.
You asked them to buy batteries. No shit they bought something bad for the environment.
 
I WILL NOT EAT THE BUGS
I WILL NOT LIVE IN THE POD
I WILL NOT GET IN THE WAHE CAGE

DONT TREND ON MEAT
 
A great way to promote lesbianism is to make all men look like Greg Miller and Wil Wheaton.

"Would you rather live life to the fullest and enjoy yourself and live to 80 or live in fear and misery and live to 90"
A lot of the faggots who endorse these "alternative" lifestyles are godless yet extremely afraid of death; they'd pick "live to 90" in a heartbeat.
 
I think that dairy products like eggs would have been much more readily available to the peasant class than game meat would have.
It was for basically as long as animal domestication existed.

I don't see how anyone could intellectually honestly compare the health risks of vegan diets to the rampant obesity and other health problems which modern Americans and Westerners are enduring.
Yeh, he was kinda being an ass. But still, "X is a problem" does not mean "Y is not a problem." And the problems vegans can face are very easily solved by eating meat every now and again. Obesity is a much more difficult problem to solve and is far from being mutually exclusive.

It's like if you wanted to save money, you could make one minor change and save a reasonable sum, or you can drastically alter your lifestyle for the worse and save a bunch. The easy option is a better start. Do the hard thing when the easy shit is found to be insufficient.
 
Let's take a look at David Haye's record after 2014, when he became vegan -

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Two wins, two losses. Two victories against so-so competition, and then Tony Bellew blew him the fuck out two times, and then retirement. Now the veganism is obviously not the only reason, as age was becoming a factor, but it really didn't help.

I don't know of any other vegan boxers, probably for good reason.
 
i agree, but even then I think that dairy products like eggs would have been much more readily available to the peasant class than game meat would have. (Even today, meat is normally much more expensive than plant-based products and dairy since it's more harder and more costly to regularly procure).

So yes, going without any animal products whatsoever is a bit divergent - nevertheless I don't see how anyone could intellectually honestly compare the health risks of vegan diets to the rampant obesity and other health problems which modern Americans and Westerners are enduring.
McDonald's and other fast food =/= the type of meat that humans have consumed for most of our history. I knew a guy who pretty much just ate vegan pizzas and he was unhealthy as fuck. Obesity is a major problem but it has to do with how American food is made in general more than the fact that it's meat. The most healthy countries on the planet still eat meat.
 
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