🌟 Internet Famous Clayton Ray Huff / Dream / DreamOnPvP / DreamTraps / DreamAF / DreamXD / DeltaKnight / DreamSkilful / Clayman23 - Fat Minecraft Youtuber with fans that want to torture and rape him and are in denial that he's fat.

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Is JacobTMK the Fatman?

  • Yes! It's a deadringer!

    Votes: 306 13.2%
  • No! That's Dream!

    Votes: 1,718 74.1%
  • It's neither of them!

    Votes: 295 12.7%

  • Total voters
    2,319
I've never heard this either, source?

The only other picture I can think of where his hair was shown are the red hoodie merch pictures, and that only shows the very tips of his hair which I will admit seem to be a light brown or blonde. His brother and his family all seem to have blonde or blonde-ish undertones to their hair so in warmer outside (and probably edited to make the colours pop for the merch) lighting I wouldn't exactly doubt that Coleton's hair could look that colour.

I'm not entirely sure what you mean by ' the hand structure looks similar but otherwise completely different ' as that seems a bit condradictory and they look the same to me, right down to the creases on top of his thumbs. You can also maybe look past the scar but that doesn't explain the exact same placement of the moles, particularly the one on his palm since it's the clearest.

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I mean, I wouldn't exactly trust anything Clay says about himself after the things we've found out about him? Something that picks colours from indivudal pixels isn't exactly an accurate way to gage hair colour either imo. I've not heard of any of the clips you're talking about but if you can find them I'm interested to see.

Just curious, how did you know about this video if he deleted it late 2019? Are there any archives of it?
im saying that's why people say that his hair looks brown not using it for anything, you're right that colours from individual pixels aren't accurate at all. I know about the videos because I followed him even back when he had 100 or so followers before youtube, i was in his friend group back then i even knew of him back in 2014. I still have contact with him and have been debating asking him about some things on this thread but not even sure what i would ask because most of it is just stalking his family and the other stuff is just speculation about things he probably would think are pointless. up for ideas

the pool thing is pretty common knowledge though you can just search on tiktok where people say "dream hair reveal" and 70% of the comments are just people saying it's his brother. half of them say it's george either as a joke or seriously but he was asked through a donation if it was him and he said that it was his brother.
 
im saying that's why people say that his hair looks brown not using it for anything, you're right that colours from individual pixels aren't accurate at all. I know about the videos because I followed him even back when he had 100 or so followers before youtube, i was in his friend group back then i even knew of him back in 2014. I still have contact with him and have been debating asking him about some things on this thread but not even sure what i would ask because most of it is just stalking his family and the other stuff is just speculation about things he probably would think are pointless. up for ideas

the pool thing is pretty common knowledge though you can just search on tiktok where people say "dream hair reveal" and 70% of the comments are just people saying it's his brother. half of them say it's george either as a joke or seriously but he was asked through a donation if it was him and he said that it was his brother.
Well after some digging through twitter (I couldn't find anything on Tik Tok, either I don't know how to use it or it doesn't actually have a proper search function lol) I couldn't actually find anyone claiming it was his brother, mostly just people thinking it's Dream, George or being confused? I dunno, it might be different on Tik Tok. It doesn't really matter to me who was in that photo if he's not outright claiming it's himself, it does look like Coleton's hair just in cool-blue lighting to me though.
My main point is that he must really have something to hide about himself if he's using his brother's HANDS instead of his own just for a top-down fanmail unboxing video because that's definitely what it looks like.

Edit: still looking, i'm seeing comments from people saying Dream DID say the pool pic was him but i can't find proof directly from him either way so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
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Well, the fact that Clay is so adamant on hiding his face and body shows that he could be insecure, or a fat nigger.

A youtuber called Jaidenanimations also hid her face for a long time, and her reasoning was mental health issues because she had Anorexia and BDD, so he also could have a skewed image of himself and feels as if he can't live up to his fanbase's standards. I mean, look at the way those retards draw him in fanart pieces! Having the public image that you're a young, hot teenage boy when really you're the opposite would make anyone insecure.
 
Well after some digging through twitter (I couldn't find anything on Tik Tok, either I don't know how to use it or it doesn't actually have a proper search function lol) I couldn't actually find anyone claiming it was his brother, mostly just people thinking it's Dream, George or being confused? I dunno, it might be different on Tik Tok. It doesn't really matter to me who was in that photo if he's not outright claiming it's himself, it does look like Coleton's hair just in cool-blue lighting to me though.
My main point is that he must really have something to hide about himself if he's using his brother's HANDS instead of his own just for a top-down fanmail unboxing video because that's definitely what it looks like.

Edit: still looking, i'm seeing comments from people saying Dream DID say the pool pic was him but i can't find proof directly from him either way so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
yeah each platform is very different and sees different things. i saw the clip of him saying the pool picture was his brother myself, i think that he joked about it a couple times before that and avoided donations about it until he said that it obviously wasn't him. he responded to someone saying that it was george laughing and saying that it definitely isn't george, that's surely somewhere because it was a reply and not just in a stream.

i wouldn't be that surprised if that was the case with the unboxing video, with reflections and everything knowing how paranoid he is about it all. he has said on livestreams before that he has other people take pictures or videos he posts for him sometimes because he doesn't want to spend time looking for reflections. it could be Clay in the unboxing video still though, freckles in similar areas isn't that convincing. or the videos on twitter could be Clay much less likely though. not that it matters one way or another

can someone put a list of questions together from this thread that i can ask dream? I'm sure he is seeing this right now based on the lurking he has done in the past so hi dream! there is no way that he knows who i am from my posts here or he would have messaged me already KEKW, he has me added on discord.
 
im saying that's why people say that his hair looks brown not using it for anything, you're right that colours from individual pixels aren't accurate at all. I know about the videos because I followed him even back when he had 100 or so followers before youtube, i was in his friend group back then i even knew of him back in 2014. I still have contact with him and have been debating asking him about some things on this thread but not even sure what i would ask because most of it is just stalking his family and the other stuff is just speculation about things he probably would think are pointless. up for ideas

the pool thing is pretty common knowledge though you can just search on tiktok where people say "dream hair reveal" and 70% of the comments are just people saying it's his brother. half of them say it's george either as a joke or seriously but he was asked through a donation if it was him and he said that it was his brother.
So you knew Clayton?
tulsa?

just please let us know if he’s a fat fuck or not 🙏🏻 And do you have any pictures of our lovely gaymer man?
 
yeah each platform is very different and sees different things. i saw the clip of him saying the pool picture was his brother myself, i think that he joked about it a couple times before that and avoided donations about it until he said that it obviously wasn't him. he responded to someone saying that it was george laughing and saying that it definitely isn't george, that's surely somewhere because it was a reply and not just in a stream.

i wouldn't be that surprised if that was the case with the unboxing video, with reflections and everything knowing how paranoid he is about it all. he has said on livestreams before that he has other people take pictures or videos he posts for him sometimes because he doesn't want to spend time looking for reflections. it could be Clay in the unboxing video still though, freckles in similar areas isn't that convincing. or the videos on twitter could be Clay much less likely though. not that it matters one way or another

can someone put a list of questions together from this thread that i can ask dream? I'm sure he is seeing this right now based on the lurking he has done in the past so hi dream! there is no way that he knows who i am from my posts here or he would have messaged me already KEKW, he has me added on discord.
Won't he know who you are if he lurks here and you start asking him questions from the thread? lol He might just block you no?

Also,
From what i've gathered he went on a rant on his dreamwastaken2 twitter back when the pool picture was posted because people were insisting it was George and not him. The rant was about the colour of his hair and how lighting affects it. I can't confirm any of this beyond reactions to it and can't find screenshots though so take this with a grain of salt but it's a bit of a weird thing to defend if he wasn't trying to insist the image was him? Unfortunately he's purged pretty much anything of use from all of his accounts..
 
Won't he know who you are if he lurks here and you start asking him questions from the thread? lol He might just block you no?
he will know when i message him i don't really care if he does. he could just block me but he's shown that he likes replying to just about anybody about drama so i would be surprised. ive followed his alt for a while and i don't remember that at all. he has talked and ranted about his hair colour multiple times though

So you knew Clayton?
tulsa?
i knew him online LUL
 
Having the public image that you're a young, hot teenage boy when really you're the opposite would make anyone insecure.
This is why I partially feel sad about him (even though he makes it really hard to). He might've fueled the stans but this was inevitable anyway. If you are an anonymous youtuber you will be drawn as a cute anime boy. Even if you ask people not to, Technoblade had something similar. He said that he prefers to be drawn as a pig because it's more on brand and people were crying over it. It must be hard to compete with 2d anime boys...*sigh*
 
he will know when i message him i don't really care if he does. he could just block me but he's shown that he likes replying to just about anybody about drama so i would be surprised. ive followed his alt for a while and i don't remember that at all. he has talked and ranted about his hair colour multiple times though


i knew him online LUL
Oh boy, be sure to update us when this mess happens kek
 
This is why I partially feel sad about him (even though he makes it really hard to). He might've fueled the stans but this was inevitable anyway. If you are an anonymous youtuber you will be drawn as a cute anime boy. Even if you ask people not to, Technoblade had something similar. He said that he prefers to be drawn as a pig because it's more on brand and people were crying over it. It must be hard to compete with 2d anime boys...*sigh*
Techno is right about trying to stay on brand, having your fanbase think you're ugly and having unrealistic expectations of you will obviously sting. Dream just gives me the vibes that he has a ~little~ bit of a god complex, and he seems a little narcissistic, due to his inability on handling criticism.
 
Techno is right about trying to stay on brand, having your fanbase think you're ugly and having unrealistic expectations of you will obviously sting. Dream just gives me the vibes that he has a ~little~ bit of a god complex, and he seems a little narcissistic, due to his inability on handling criticism.
Techno has face revealed before, just as FYI.
I think it's good to keep in mind Dream probably has Rejection Sensitive Dysphoria, which may lead to some of the behaviour we see here. Maybe a bit of narcissism sprinkled into it.
 
our beloved Clay posted a video on twitter in 2018 where his legs were visible and he had on Oklahoma tennis shoes. he was screaming trying to catch a snake in a pool, I remember it vividly and it was from almost a year before he posted his first youtube video.
Well, are his legs fat?
 
Mildly OT for the conversation at hand, but I have nowhere else to toss this in so-

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The real question here is why is he replying to some Aussie boyband lol
 
Idk if he's considered "major" or not but my bet's on F1nn5ter.
Can you tell us a little more about him? I searched for his name on the farms and he's some sort of crossdresser or something, right? I guess this is that trend of autistic lets players saying "teehee won't it be funny if you pay me $3,000 to dress like an anime waifu?" and then actually being into sissy hypno or whatever.
 
Can you tell us a little more about him? I searched for his name on the farms and he's some sort of crossdresser or something, right? I guess this is that trend of autistic lets players saying "teehee won't it be funny if you pay me $3,000 to dress like an anime waifu?" and then actually being into sissy hypno or whatever.
He first started cross dressing because he saw how popular it was on Twitch and that the people who did it would get a lot of money from donations, which he admitted in a video, but now it seems to be because he thoroughly enjoys it. Just by viewing his instagram you can see that he dresses as a female outside of streaming and Youtube. He frequently gets hair extensions, wears fake nails, etc. He also has this weird relationship with an MTF who goes by the username Meowriza who used to post porn videos where she would jerk off and make her "boobs" lactate. I suspect she is the reason why he dresses as a female outside of recording as he's always dressed as a female in his Instagram pictures and videos with her. But from what I can see so far he's not thread worthy yet. He's actually kind of boring aside from his friendhsip with Pyrocynical (whom we all know also like to cross dress) and his creepy girlfriend. He's also in Count Dankula's Discord if that means anything to anyone. He'll probably get cancelled soon because he said the word retard about three months back in one of his videos. Apparently, some people already think he's on HRT already because of the way his face has changed from his first videos but they are from 4chan so take that for what you will.
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In the hugbox interview Dream mentioned that he was an Oklahoma Sooners fan and that he had all sorts of clothing items and merch. Funnily enough, if you mirror the image of the diequick23 profile picture I am pretty confident that he is wearing an Oklahoma Sooners shirt.

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His face also strongly resembles this photo of Dream when he was a kid.
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Maybe I'm blind or dumb (or both?) but as far as hands from Dream's unboxing video match with Coleton's hands, I'm pretty sure the ones from that merch pic are different. Purple scar is visible in the Coleton and unboxing hands so I guess it's the same person, but on the merch pic there's nothing in the purple's place and instead there's a blue scar in a different position that is nowhere to be seen in those first 2 pics. It's confusing as fuck, why would they have a mole in the same place on the same hand and a scar in a slightly different spot?

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I don't know if my description is clear enough so I did a visualisation

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