People seem to nitpick the quiverfull movement which I find weird as the catholic church has always been against any kind of birth control, even abstinence (which is birth control). But in typical catholic fashion, all those that attend think just going to mas once in awhile and putting a few bucks in the plate is "good enough" and they ignore all the doctrine. I don't believe in birth control either, but my wife has medical issues and can't really get pregnant so I feel it would be awkward for me to go around preaching against birth control given my situation. I some times think how different my life would be if I had 10+ kids. Hard to say whether it would be "better" or "worse", but these fundamental religious groups see life as one following the commands of God no matter what the inconvenience. For me, that is a tough pill to swallow even though I agree with it.
I'll try to not power level, but I have met the Duggars on a few occasions at the multiple home schooler's conferences they attended every year. I can say their family is the same off the show as on the show and that has always impressed me. I find their family genuine and honestly a good role model in general. The internet seems to root for their entire destruction continually and I find that disgusting. There are a heck of a lot worse parents out there, us kiwis know that (just look at any BLM thread for examples). There are plenty of kids out there that grow up to trash talk their fudie parents, but so far, the Duggar kids are not amongst that group, and I think that says a lot (in that they aren't being "abused" as everyone states).
The situation with Josh is certainly unfortunate but the harder I try to condemn him, the more I see myself in different light. From what I remember, Josh was "accidentally" touching his sister's butts and sometimes touching on them while they slept. What impressed me was he actually told on himself. I mean, every night his parents would pray with him and ask if there were any unconfessed sins that he needed to admit to. And this act burned his conscious until he told on himself. I don't think I could have done that, I'm a coward and would rather ignore my guilt and let it manifest into some kind of mental disorder like every other spineless American. I played some really heinous acts of "tuth or dare" with my cousins at a sleepover at my grandma's before, and briefly tried to spy on my step-sister in the rest room. Perhaps none of these are "Josh level", but my parents could still have taken me to the police department and had a report filled out (which is what the Duggar parents did). If it was my son that was touching my daughter and he admitted it to me, I'm really not sure what I would do. I don't think I'd have a police report made just so some tabloid can get access to it though. Perhaps I'd just sit him in front of google and type in "Josh Duggar" and tell him to start reading as punishment. But that would probably just convince one to never tell the truth and always deny everything, because if Josh did that initially as a teenager, he would have probably fared better.
Of course having a computer full of cheese pizza is another matter. But there is a big difference between downloading the 20gb of leaked facebook private photos off of bit torrent which would contain no telling what, and actual predatory behavior. And that is as far as my defense can go on that matter.
Edit: alright, I'll admit it, this was a stupid post on my part.
