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The Joker is gay, or at the very least queer, and I’ll prove it. It’s a rather bold statement to make and one that has been surrounded with controversy for the past 80, or so, years.

After rewatching The Lego Batman Movie (2017) I noticed a trope that drove the plot of the film: Batman refuses to acknowledge that the Joker is his greatest enemy.

But whilst watching it is hard not to notice the unbridled queercoding within the film. Throughout it, the romantic undertones of the film which are, not so subtly, disguised in words and phrases that Joker and Batman use when talking to each other.

By replacing these phrases with what is deemed to be the ‘hidden’ meaning we begin to notice the queercoding within the film; the term “bad guy” relates to ‘partner’ implied when Batman tells the Joker that he currently does not have “a bad guy”; to “fight” someone means to date them; and “I hate you” means ‘I love you’.

Beyond the comedy, in a few scenes, there can be some real heart to some of the Batman-Joker dialogues and can be quite difficult not to get angry at Batman, in places, when he refuses to acknowledge his “hate” for the Joker.

This changes when towards the end of the film there are a series of dialogues which are set to a sunset backdrop and dramatic music. During these speeches Batman opens up to the Joker and proclaims his “hate” for the joker and subsequently saves the city.

I am definitely not the only person to notice this rampant queercoding within the plotline. Some people got rather angry at the directors and producers fro allowing “pro-gay propeganda” in a childrens film, stating: “It was chock full with pro-gay propeganda. Think the sexual innuendo of the Flintstones minus the real humor.” (PinkNews)

The directors confirmed it was written into the script. They “kept chasing it - kept writing it and chasing it editorially, and these ideas became the backbone of the movie” states Chris McKay in the director's commentary.

But why do the writers make Batman and Joker gay?

They play on a trope that has been highly disputed since 25th of April 1940 when The Joker made his first appearance in the comic ‘Batman #1’ but has become a more popular discussion amongst this franchise's fans in recent years.

The Batman franchise has always been surrounded with claims of queercoding. This is the act of subtextually coding a fictional character as queer. Although their sexual identity might not be explicitly queer, the character might be queer in terms of looks, phrases and manurisms.

We can notice this from the early days of Batman and Robin and now with the Joker and Batman. But why?

During the 30’s in America a set of rules, or codes, were enforced and called The Motion Picture Production Code (The Hays Code). If a film did not abide by these codes then it would be censored - this led to many years of media censorship.

Later in 1954 the comic book industry would come to have their own set of codes. It was influenced heavily on a book by psychiatrist Fredric Wertham where he stated that “the batman type story may stimulate children to homosexual fantasies, of the nature which may be subconscious”.

During this time relationships that were not ‘normal’ - in other words: heterosexual - were deemed to be illicit, vulgur, perverted, criminal, etc. Furthermore, in many places homosexuality was thought to be a mental illness, if not illegal.

What also comes to mind when we mention vulgar, perverted, and criminal? Supervillians.

In short: characters were given queer subtext, as the steryotypes they portried was considered abnormal, and, therfore, thought to be more villianous

The Hays Code was kept in place till 1968 but its effects lived on right through to the new millennium. Many of our favourite characters are queer coded, whether we like it or not. Some examples include; Scar, the lion King; Satan, in any TV show; Frank. N. Furter, Rocky Horror Picture Show; Ursula, The Little Mermaid; Hades, Hercules; and, obviously, The Joker, Batman.

When researching this topic the same opposing argument kept cropping up. ‘Being feminine does’t make a character gay’. Which is true.

Clothes are unisex, makeup is unisex, being an efeminant man is normal, being a butch woman is, also, normal.

However, there are reasons this is seen as Queer. Many LGBT+ and non-conforming folk see themselves in these villains. With the joker, nonconformity is not only within his appearance and actions but also within his philosophy.

By erasing these ideas from the character you wipe The Joker of his whole substance - not a very exciting person, to say the least.

So, the joker has to be queer. Due to a bunch of media censorship and conservative stereotypes some of our most interesting and most beloved characters are gay! Ironic, isn’t it.
 
A psychopath who murders millions and laughs about it. Truly he is the golden mascot of the queer community!
 
... Why are they even bothering to try to 'queer' stuff related to the billionaire 'bachelor' that had a live-in houseboy that wore speedos and drove around with him in their custom sports car?

Batman is already some of the gayest shit ever.
When researching this topic the same opposing argument kept cropping up. ‘Being feminine does’t make a character gay’. Which is true.
Yeah, the current zeitgeist is that it makes them Trans. Duh.
 
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Yes, yes. "Everything you like is actually gay!" has been the LGBTQ go to thing for awhile now.

It is one of the main reasons everyone is sick of their shit. Not everything has to be sexualized.

Especially an anarchistic, sociopathic, mass murderer like the Joker who really only exists to be the chaos to Batman's order.
 
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They've written creepily too-into-Batman incarnations of the Joker a few times, but saying that he's flat-out queer is disingenuous. He's whatever he needs to be for a given writer's vision to work (which is partially why he's being so compelling and enjoyable for as long as he has been). I think it's canon in the recent run of DC comics that there's multiple Jokers active at the same time, if I recall correctly.

The Dark Knight Returns (or at least the animated version) has a pretty memorable sex-pest version of Joker, and if you enjoy capeshit it's worth a watch. Here's a clip that exemplifies his creepiness in that one:
Anyway, it's very weird and gross that LGBT activists (as opposed to the ones who just want to be left alone) are always trying to "reclaim" violent, monstrous villains. The "your fave is queer" types pretending Esmerelda or Crash Bandicoot or Batman are LGBTETC are rather benign (if annoying) in comparison.
 
I dont know much about DC, but isnt the Joker banging Harley Quinn?
No, he hates her. She's the bimbo sidekick he can abuse and betray because she'll always come back to him. That's the iconic version of the character anyway, there are more recent feminist versions where she don't need no man. But the Joker has no sexual drive or romantic feelings. Sometimes he will sexually provoke people, like kissing the sexologist in Dark Knight Returns or grabbing Batman's butt in Arkham Asylum, but he does that because it's funny, and to make people uncomfortable, not because he is sexually excited by it. There is a sexual subtext, but it's in the victim being disgusted by his transgressive behavior, not in his behavior revealing some underlying character trait.

There's a Geoff Johns/Four Jokers joke somewhere in here. The Criminal, the Clown, the Comedian, and the Queer. Jason killed the wrong one. Jeannie left because he was sucking dick on the side. "There are girls out there on the street who make that much in an hour without having to tell a single joke. Might as well try it."
 
Batman and The Joker acting the way they do in The Lego Batman Movie was a joke you fucking tards!

The Joker quite literally only does it for the lulz. The only time we've seen him in a serious relationship it was with a woman. Imaginary be damned.
 
A psychopath who murders millions and laughs about it. Truly he is the golden mascot of the queer community!
It's a 1000IQ move. Declare the Joker queer and harass DC into making him an explicit "queer" (whatever that means) man folx. Turn around and complain that DC is queerphobic for having a queer villain. Bam! Full redemption arc for the Joker. Batman and the people of Gotham just needed to be more accepting of his self-expression.
 
Well they tried to adopt Pennywise as a gay icon too.

Why the LGBTQ crowd wants to be represented by murdering clowns that kill and abuse children is anyone's guess.

Bad optics y'all. I'm just saying.
 
murders millions and laughs about it
That's a brutal euphemism for "swallows cum and likes it".

Anyway, it's very weird and gross that LGBT activists (as opposed to the ones who just want to be left alone) are always trying to "reclaim" violent, monstrous villains.
Sociopaths are drawn to sociopathic characters.
 
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