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https://www.cheknews.ca/pit-bull-attack-near-nanaimo-injures-two-children-and-one-woman-450395/

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Two 8-month-old pit bulls that were loose in Nanaimo attacked several children, severely injuring at least one. Other people that came to aid the children were also injured.

The children were playing in a yard at the house of one of their friends. The dogs were from somewhere else in the neighborhood and had been cited for being at large previously.

One of the owners of the dogs came and got the dogs but did not stick around. The news interviewed the other owner, a Dangerhair that looked to be in her late 40s or early 50s. While she was devastated at what her dogs had done, she said to the reporter, "People are saying, look at this from the prospective of a parent, well, these dogs are my kids, too," and then she broke down crying.

It was later reported both dogs were euthanized, as there have been other incidents prior to this one, and due to the severity of the injuries the one particular child sustained.

To the dangerhair dog owner I would have to say, "If these dogs were your KIDS, you did a lousy job of raising them. Thank heavens you didn't spawn any of your own."

 

[Male Idiot]

There is a reason for pitbulls to exist though. If immigrants or darkies move into your town, you better have your yard guarded by a pitbull, as it keeps the gypsies away. The fact that these subhumans can't own guns here is a plus for guard dogs.

 

[Dyn]

There is a reason for pitbulls to exist though. If immigrants or darkies move into your town, you better have your yard guarded by a pitbull, as it keeps the gypsies away. The fact that these subhumans can't own guns here is a plus for guard dogs.

Pitbulls aren't naturally inclined to be guard dogs and it's pretty difficult to train them into it. They can be aggressive-looking and intimidating, which can be great, but if anyone just walks calmly into the yard they'll start stupidly greeting their new best friend. If I wanted to rob a house even though I knew it had a dog in it, pitbulls are one of the least offputting breeds it could be guarded by. A pitbull is actually the last breed I'd ever want to guard my house from gypsies or abbos, because eventually one of them is just going to steal the pitbull.

Get a territorial dog with actual guarding instincts like a Rottweiler if you want a guard dog.

edit ; I'm not saying there's no reason for them to exist, though. If I still lived in the outback I'd strongly consider a pitbull as my first choice of companion dog. I don't have the energy to fuck around with bull arabs or ACD's anymore, the short single-coat is perfect for tick-country, and you need something that can hold its own against wilddog attacks unless you want to keep the dog locked inside and strap up every time you walk him. I can't think of a better dog for those circumstances.

 

[Clockwork_PurBle]

I'd chalk it up to a "me against the world/society" thing where they can cast themselves and their pibbles in the role of the persecuted, beset on all sides by enemies and naysayers.

Not to be, "we live in a society" but we have been somewhat conditioned to believe bad reputation = misunderstood and oppressed, which is why pit bulls are pretty much the only breed with a fanatical, cult-like advocacy base.

There is a reason for pitbulls to exist though. If immigrants or darkies move into your town, you better have your yard guarded by a pitbull, as it keeps the gypsies away. The fact that these subhumans can't own guns here is a plus for guard dogs.

Dyn is right, they don't make the best guard dogs because you cannot trust them to differentiate between friend and foe and from turning on you. They are retarded, lacking the intelligence GSDs and Rottweilers have.

 

[Ma_Hooty]

I think the trickiest problem with pits is how naturally affectionate and sweet they are. They're not at all difficult to manage, but their nature makes them seem even easier and hides developing problems from novice dog owners. Anyone can buy one and barely train it and 99% of the time it'll be a perfectly gentle, adorable doofus, until that horrifying irreversible 1% of the time that it suddenly isn't.

There are far, far more difficult and dangerous dogs that are less of a problem, because if you have a badly trained Akita or Cane Corso or even an easy dog like a Rottweiler or German Shepherd, it's extremely obvious when the dog is out of your control and going to attack somebody sooner or later.

Agreed. The job I have currently has me work with a lot of different breeds and we get incompetent owners who think their first dog should be a working breed but don't put in the time and effort to take care of it outside of feeding and watering it. A lot of these breeds need mental and physical stimulation and need a yard to run around in or else they'll go crazy.

I've dealt with huskies, beagles, shiba inu, poodles, boxers, shepherds, great danes, chow chows, bloodhounds, dachshunds, shar pei, corsos, chihuahuas, dalmatians, rotties, shi tzu, and everything in between who were utterly neurotic and/or aggressive- some so bad you couldn't even handle and have to be sedated for everything.
I've also dealt with huskies, beagles, shiba inu, poodles, boxers, shepherds, great danes, chow chows, bloodhounds, dachshunds, shar pei, corsos, chihuahuas, dalmatians, rotties, shi tzu and everything in between who were sweet, well-behaved lovebugs.

Both categories apply to pit bulls, too.

Any dog can become an absolute nightmare if you don't know how (or care) to properly discipline and handle them- just like a child, they learn bad behavior when they're not raised in a positive, stable environment and it gets worse the older they get and the longer they stay in that environment.

Are some breeds more predisposed to aggression than others? It's possible, but from my years of experience in working with domestic animals, it's never that simple.

 

[knobslobbin]

Reading through this thread today and I really wish someone would take the time to clean out like 20+ pages of shitposts cluttering it up. Just autodelete Dyn and maybe 1 other poster, problem solved.

edit: fuck assmad jannies

 

[Dyn]

Reading through this thread today and I really wish someone would take the time to clean out like 20+ pages of shitposts cluttering it up. Just autodelete Dyn and maybe 1 other poster, problem solved.

"Anything I disagree with needs to be deleted"

You people really do think this is fucking reddit, don't you.

 

[Grotesque Bushes]

Reading through this thread today and I really wish someone would take the time to clean out like 20+ pages of shitposts cluttering it up. Just autodelete Dyn and maybe 1 other poster, problem solved.

Dyn actually knows something about dogs, and it shows in his posts. Half of said posts are retarded, but it's well thought out retardation.

 

[Begemot]

Reading through this thread today and I really wish someone would take the time to clean out like 20+ pages of shitposts cluttering it up. Just autodelete Dyn and maybe 1 other poster, problem solved.

Wouldn't want your racialised discourse that delineates pitbulls as BIPOC proxies to get any some actual 'viewpoint diversity', huh, trick?

 

[Amber the Hedgehog]

Are some breeds more predisposed to aggression than others? It's possible, but from my years of experience in working with domestic animals, it's never that simple.

No it really is that simple. Being more disposed towards aggression doesn't close out bad ownership or sweet individuals. It literally just means that this group on average is more aggressive than the other group(s) do genetics.

Pitbulls have more human death and carnage under their belt than any other breed. In US they make more than half dogs that killed humans and also do most maulinds and bites that need long term hospital care. Partly this do their body type and size but even together the other large powerful dog breeds still don't come close to their damage level. This is do the same instincts that make them excellent blood sports dogs. Bitbulls have been breeded for high pray drive, high reactivity, low communication, feeling less pain, not givin up, shaking style bite and dog aggression, all something that can turn against people and animals we like keep save. You can see this behavior on allready in young puppies, like here and more violently here (note all the food in the background and they still killed and ate their sibling).

 

[Lopt]

I think you're going into the wrong mindset thinking people that use pibbles as security systems "train" them at all. In my experience, they hit em a good bit while playing with them when they're young to make them more "aggressive." Their words not mine. Then when they're big enough they just go on a chain outside occasionally being given dinner leftovers. I knew shitbull owners who never even bought dog food. If they're ornery towards the owner they get hit some more but otherwise they're just left to the chain to bark at passersby and scare black people (a LOT of blacks dont fuck with dogs at all.)

 

[Ma_Hooty]

No it really is that simple. Being more disposed towards aggression doesn't close out bad ownership or sweet individuals. It literally just means that this group on average is more aggressive than the other group(s) do genetics.

Pitbulls have more human death and carnage under their belt than any other breed. In US they make more than half dogs that killed humans and also do most maulinds and bites that need long term hospital care. Partly this do their body type and size but even together the other large powerful dog breeds still don't come close to their damage level. This is do the same instincts that make them excellent blood sports dogs. Bitbulls have been breeded for high pray drive, high reactivity, low communication, feeling less pain, not givin up, shaking style bite and dog aggression, all something that can turn against people and animals we like keep save. You can see this behavior on allready in young puppies, like here and more violently here (note all the food in the background and they still killed and ate their sibling).

While I can't argue with statistics, I also can't witchhunt them, either. In the times that I have been bitten by dogs (thankfully very few and nothing serious), it was due to my dumb ass and those dogs had issues that I could never fault them for. One of these breeds that bit me was a husky; should I fear or hate huskies now or simply be more guarded around that specific dog and muzzle it/ask for help handling it?

Maybe I'm too soft when it comes to animals or maybe I don't want to look like an asshole in refusing to deal with certain animals that are stigmatized, but I can't demonize pit bulls - or any other breed for that matter. Oh, I'm more than aware now about the stats and aggressive traits (I know someone who breeds rotties and she uses the nasty ones for some batshit reason), but I have to take every pet as an individual while keeping my guard up and reading their body language to prevent another dumb ass moment.

 

[Amber the Hedgehog]

While I can't argue with statistics, I also can't witchhunt them, either. In the times that I have been bitten by dogs (thankfully very few and nothing serious), it was due to my dumb ass and those dogs had issues that I could never fault them for. One of these breeds that bit me was a husky; should I fear or hate huskies now or simply be more guarded around that specific dog and muzzle it/ask for help handling it?

Maybe I'm too soft when it comes to animals or maybe I don't want to look like an asshole in refusing to deal with certain animals that are stigmatized, but I can't demonize pit bulls - or any other breed for that matter. Oh, I'm more than aware now about the stats and aggressive traits (I know someone who breeds rotties and she uses the nasty ones for some batshit reason), but I have to take every pet as an individual while keeping my guard up and reading their body language to prevent another dumb ass moment.

There's nothing wrong with recognizing the animal as an individual as long as you aren't purposely ignorant to natural instinct in them. It's not demozation to recognize that pitbulls were and still are breed for dog fighting and that genetic baggage can come out. Not necessarily in every individual but the overall population most certainly and unfortunately those instincts are very dangerous. These dogs are known to snap unexpectedly because they are breed for short fuse and not showing signs of aggression because that behavior wins fights.

You don't have to refuse to deal with these animals but you shouldn't give them opportunities to hurt others. Reading bodies generally isn't enough with them because they often don't communicate like normal dogs and one attack is more likely than average to be devastating, so it's better to not give them opportunities to fail. Like don't let them off leach anywhere with other animals, use mussels and be ready to put down individuals with aggression because most likely it won't get better. Sad but these animals were breed to be killers of their own kind and that should be taken seriously.

 

[John Andrews Stan]

While I can't argue with statistics, I also can't witchhunt them, either. In the times that I have been bitten by dogs (thankfully very few and nothing serious), it was due to my dumb ass and those dogs had issues that I could never fault them for. One of these breeds that bit me was a husky; should I fear or hate huskies now or simply be more guarded around that specific dog and muzzle it/ask for help handling it?

Maybe I'm too soft when it comes to animals or maybe I don't want to look like an asshole in refusing to deal with certain animals that are stigmatized, but I can't demonize pit bulls - or any other breed for that matter. Oh, I'm more than aware now about the stats and aggressive traits (I know someone who breeds rotties and she uses the nasty ones for some batshit reason), but I have to take every pet as an individual while keeping my guard up and reading their body language to prevent another dumb ass moment.

While you’re busy worrying about individuality in canines, I’ll be keeping myself and the children in my care as safe as possible. No one gives a fuck about “fairness“ when they’re trying to unclamp a dog’s jaw from their baby’s skull.

 

[Dyn]

While you’re busy worrying about individuality in canines, I’ll be keeping myself and the children in my care as safe as possible. No one gives a fuck about “fairness“ when they’re trying to unclamp a dog’s jaw from their baby’s skull.

But you should do that. If you don't understand dog body language and especially if you have kids around that don't, you should treat all dogs large enough to do damage with extreme caution. That's normal and anyone who says you should ignore your misgivings and make yourself vulnerable to a dog you don't feel safe around is an idiot and an asshole.

But there's a big difference between being sensibly cautious and seething in an internet circlejerk where people share pitbull attack outrage porn and jerk off to videos of pitbulls getting stomped in by donkeys.

I think you're going into the wrong mindset thinking people that use pibbles as security systems "train" them at all.

The vast majority of people with 'guard dogs' don't train them at all, because they think their dog doing big idiot barks out the window is a sign it will actually defend the house from an intruder. They always end up shocked when some lads break into their house, pet their dog for a few minutes, then walk out with their desktop PC and wife's jewelry.

 

[AnOminous]

But there's a big difference between being sensibly cautious and seething in an internet circlejerk where people share pitbull attack outrage porn and jerk off to videos of pitbulls getting stomped in by donkeys.

Wait, that's completely normal. Who doesn't jerk off to that? What are you, some kind of weirdo?

Also apologize for double posting.

 

[Dyn]

Also apologize for double posting.

There's literally nothing wrong with double posting and fuck the jannies who try to suppress our right to double post.

 

[Getwhatyou]

Want a good guard dog. Get a mastiff. Big enough to be a man stopper. Don't need to be run like German Shepard. Calm enough to assess a situation.

Even better an English mastiff. You need to be crazy to fuck with 90kg+ of dog.

 

[Enyo]

Men who defend pitbulls are getting cucked by their wives, probably by the dog, but also maybe by twitch.

 

[John Andrews Stan]

Even better an English mastiff. You need to be crazy to fuck with 90kg+ of dog.

Now that’s not fair. Just because a dog weighs 200 pounds, you can’t assume it will be hard to handle. Every dog is different!

 

[Dyn]

Want a good guard dog. Get a mastiff. Big enough to be a man stopper. Don't need to be run like German Shepard. Calm enough to assess a situation.

Even better an English mastiff. You need to be crazy to fuck with 90kg+ of dog.

English and French Mastiffs are great. I wouldn't recommend anyone who isn't already comfortable and experienced with large dangerous dogs ever try to keep one and train it up for bite work but if I absolutely had to, those would be two of the best breeds to pick, alongside Rottweilers, which I will always stan as the perfect big boy dog for first-time owners. Most other types of mastiffs are prone to behavioural issues that make pitbulls look like saints, and are a really really bad idea for inexperienced owners.

But really, if you don't know what you're doing, you should buy a gun and an alarm system instead.