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Terven Twitter delivers yet again. Now I don't have the exact context for this troon meltdown, but I get the feeling his response is a litttttle disproportionate to whatever "abuse" he's received.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=WROVGkndEXQ
He was comradecora on tiktok, but apparently the account no longer exists. It seems he's deleted some of his social media after his freakout, but you can find him on YouTube (he's made some popular YTPs).

His avatar:
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Him in real life:
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He's got an OnlyFans too!
Is he on a stag do?
This reads like a typical troon fantasy, wanting some 'straight' guy to degrade them and use their am holes. Like you said the way he used "sissy" as an insult.. this dude is full on projecting. Looked into his account and damn, I feel bad for the baby..
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(He mentions liquid oozing from his nipple and red marks from using the breast pump while his partner is away)
How do people look at the utter narcissistic disregard for their partners physical and emotional needs through pregnancy - one of the most life changing and potentially dangerous things women (and only women) do - and think that they are the people who should be centered in everyones activism? these mad narcs are one thing, but they clapping bystanders are beyond belief.
 
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Unfortunately Dawkins is distancing himself from anti-trans thoughtcrime, and from the "impossible to specify but somehow confirmed nazi adjacent" right wing. Dawkins not only distinguishes himself from conservatives, he scapegoats them as 'bigots', saying any agreement his words appear to have with thoughtcrime bigotry is somehow an exploitation by conservative bogeymen.

Dawkins now invites us to stop thinking about the question he posed for our consideration. He invites us to consent to the immurement of our minds within the TRA walls he almost stood up to, but now accepts.

Dawkins' Room 101 contained a weekend of shaming on the internet. Craven.
aging pervert troons like that are just the modern iteration of the classic "lecherous old drunk" archetype, one of the more unpleasant types of men that has been around since forever
Yeah, but this time they are the heroes.
 
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It’s really not a good idea to hide objects in your
underpants as you go through border control, Aiden! Not unless you want a rubber gloved finger up your arse and a night in a detention centre stuffed to the brim with illegal immigrants, how will that work out for your ‘dysphoria’?
 
aging pervert troons like that are just the modern iteration of the classic "lecherous old drunk" archetype, one of the more unpleasant types of men that has been around since forever

Yup and we’re supposed to train away our own instinctive predator alert as well as indoctrinate girls with the idea that they too should ignore their revulsion or else they’re bad. We are supposed to behave and force girls to behave *as if it is a key component of living a moral life* to pretend these dudes are exactly as harmless as an actual little old lady would be to them.

Notwithstanding how gross looking this dude looks, why is it always a "girl" (inside these perverts) not a woman? He's like around 50, why does he write as if he has a teenage girl in there?

Well better inside himself than inside a secret room off his basement.
 
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It’s really not a good idea to hide objects in your
underpants as you go through border control, Aiden! Not unless you want a rubber gloved finger up your arse and a night in a detention centre stuffed to the brim with illegal immigrants, how will that work out for your ‘dysphoria’?
I was going to ask why the hell this bitch don't "sacrifice" one aspect of her larping for just one day for the sake of a smooth travel, but of course "muh disphoriah" would be the fucking answer.
 
That's a terrible 31. I've seen geriatric chemo patients who look younger!
Male facial features on a (wannabe-) female body tend to always make them look older, while feminine facial features make people look younger. Its why some old ladies seem androgynous, their estrogen decreases post-menopause and they slowly masculinize a bit. Some MtTroons are like 21 but look 50 or older due to tragic man-face.
 
Except its not a biological female. Its an XY male with androgen insensitivity. There are internal gonads not ovaries, no uterus, because its a male with a condition. "Looking like" a female doesn't make anyone female. External appearance alone doesn't make anyone female.
Different disciplines can argue they have their own narrow definition of sex (like maybe genetics), but if we're going to talk in a broader, general medical or biological context, we need a more nuanced definition to account for intersex conditions.

If we're discussing biology or medicine, we're going to be concerned with whole body sex in practical scenarios. This is going to be what's important to your average person off the street, your average biologist performing a study, and your average doctor.

Again, in narrow contexts like genetics, they might have a more strict definition.

This means we're really concerned with the SRY gene and its effects, not literally just XX or XY chromosomes or organs alone.

The SRY gene (and in a few outlier cases, other genes can contribute) is what triggers virilization. It sets off differentiating the gonads into either female gonads (ovaries) or male gonads (testicles). Male gonads start androgen production. The rest of the body responds to androgens with virilization.

XX people with gonadal dysgenesis do not have functional ovaries. They have female anatomy but it won't develop beyond childhood without hormone treatments. However with hormone treatments, they develop normally and if they have a uterus, they can become pregnant with an implanted ovum. It would be completely legitimate to refer to these people as biologically female. They do not simply "look like" they're female, but actually are female (by a fairly mainstream biological definition of female).

XY people with no SRY gene have similar issues. They can have most of what makes up normal female sex organs (aside from ovaries, instead they usually have streak gonads) and can possibly become pregnant. Again, it is entirely reasonable to consider them biologically female, just with a medical disorder.

And finally, people with CAIS have a functional SRY gene, however their bodies do not respond to testosterone. They do not (and cannot) virilize. The essential function of androgens in development is to keep the female parts from developing and instead have them develop into male parts.

If the androgens cannot do their job, female parts instead develop. The rest of the body also develops as females would.

And even the internal testicles do not develop the way they do in males. Even if we artificially gave CAIS individuals testosterone, their testicles couldn't function because they are entirely insensitive to androgens. Their bodies convert testosterone into estrogen.

That's the ironic thing; even if some CAIS woman tried to troon out and become a transman, artificial testosterone injections would just make them look more female.
Call it intersex to be accurate.
Intersex really isn't biologically accurate. It's a (somewhat archaic) political term.
Kinda sick of "female" being this default category for anything not a normal male.
Honestly? That's kind of how biology in this area often works.

Not always, mind you. So for example, people with Kleinfelter syndrome are definitely male.

But a lot of different genetic disorders cause the body to develop as a female by default, because of how early stage sex differentiation works.
Exactly. CAIS (and PAIS) is literally a male intersex condition. People who have it might be raised as girls and externally appear female but they are factually male. They have internal testes and are incapable genetically of female reproductive function. They are completely non-virilised males. They're not troons or normal men, but neither are they women (although irl it wouldn't be unreasonable to refer to them as that). Intersex has nothing to do with troons.
Factually speaking, without a functional SRY gene, they would be female, not male. At least by a mainstream biological standard. You can get into the weeds about other niche definitions, but that's not really relevant to 99% of biological or medical science.
 
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It’s really not a good idea to hide objects in your
underpants as you go through border control, Aiden! Not unless you want a rubber gloved finger up your arse and a night in a detention centre stuffed to the brim with illegal immigrants, how will that work out for your ‘dysphoria’?
TSA routinely lets fake bombs through in training exercises so I really don't think they'll give a shit about a fake dick.

They're not transphobic, they're incompetent.
 
Male facial features on a (wannabe-) female body tend to always make them look older, while feminine facial features make people look younger. Its why some old ladies seem androgynous, their estrogen decreases post-menopause and they slowly masculinize a bit. Some MtTroons are like 21 but look 50 or older due to tragic man-face.

FTMs have a brief window when they are young to look like cute boys, then the majority just end up looking like old lesbians with a pube beard.
 
Different disciplines can argue they have their own narrow definition of sex (like maybe genetics), but if we're going to talk in a broader, general medical or biological context, we need a more nuanced definition to account for intersex conditions.

If we're discussing biology or medicine, we're going to be concerned with whole body sex in practical scenarios. This is going to be what's important to your average person off the street, your average biologist performing a study, and your average doctor.

Again, in narrow contexts like genetics, they might have a more strict definition.

This means we're really concerned with the SRY gene and its effects, not literally just XX or XY chromosomes or organs alone.

The SRY gene (and in a few outlier cases, other genes can contribute) is what triggers virilization. It sets off differentiating the gonads into either female gonads (ovaries) or male gonads (testicles). Male gonads start androgen production. The rest of the body responds to androgens with virilization.

XX people with gonadal dysgenesis do not have functional ovaries. They have female anatomy but it won't develop beyond childhood without hormone treatments. However with hormone treatments, they develop normally and if they have a uterus, they can become pregnant with an implanted ovum. It would be completely legitimate to refer to these people as biologically female. They do not simply "look like" they're female, but actually are female (by a fairly mainstream biological definition of female).

XY people with no SRY gene have similar issues. They can have most of what makes up normal female sex organs (aside from ovaries, instead they usually have streak gonads) and can possibly become pregnant. Again, it is entirely reasonable to consider them biologically female, just with a medical disorder.

And finally, people with CAIS have a functional SRY gene, however their bodies do not respond to testosterone. They do not (and cannot) virilize. The essential function of androgens in development is to keep the female parts from developing and instead have them develop into male parts.

If the androgens cannot do their job, female parts instead develop. The rest of the body also develops as females would.

And even the internal testicles do not develop the way they do in males. Even if we artificially gave CAIS individuals testosterone, their testicles couldn't function because they are entirely insensitive to androgens. Their bodies convert testosterone into estrogen.

That's the ironic thing; even if some CAIS woman tried to troon out and become a transman, artificial testosterone injections would just make them look more female.

Intersex really isn't biologically accurate. It's a (somewhat archaic) political term.

Honestly? That's kind of how biology in this area often works.

Not always, mind you. So for example, people with Kleinfelter syndrome are definitely male.

But a lot of different genetic disorders cause the body to develop as a female by default, because of how early stage sex differentiation works.

Factually speaking, without a functional SRY gene, they would be female, not male. At least by a mainstream biological standard. You can get into the weeds about other niche definitions, but that's not really relevant to 99% of biological or medical science.
CAIS people aren't female. Being female necessitates having the capacity to produce ovum. CAIS people do have differentiated male gonads. Female development entails more than a lack of testosterone, additionally, normal women are not insensitive to androgens. Whichever way you define it, CAIS people are genetic males who lack virilisation at every step of life, beginning in the womb.
In other words, being female is an actual differentiated reproductive role that requires active development, not being an underdeveloped male that superficially looks female. This is what MTF troons (and vice versa for FTM) don't understand.

Of course CAIS people are not troons and they didn't choose to be the way they are. No issue calling them women irl for courtesy.
 
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Troon fragility is ridiculous. They really can't do shit for themselves except whine about other people not catering to them and wiping their asses.
 
CAIS people aren't female. Being female necessitates having the capacity to produce ovum.
Sterile people are not sexless.
CAIS people do have differentiated male gonads. Female development entails more than a lack of testosterone, additionally, normal women are not insensitive to androgens. Whichever way you define it, CAIS people are genetic males who lack virilisation at every step of life, beginning in the womb.
I mean, their male gonads aren't streak gonads, but they're not any more functional than streak gonads.

Their male gonads are not functional. In fact, even beyond just being non-functional, they cannot function. Their bodies cannot respond to testosterone.

If we agree that all mammals are strictly male or female, sex cannot rely on the individual ability to produce viable sperm or ova, because there's all kinds of sterility. The standard needs to be more nuanced than that.

Relying on the presence or absence of testicles or ovaries also doesn't work, because the gonads can just outright be absent, or non-functional (as with CAIS), or they can have ovotestes.

People with CAIS might be narrowly genetic males, but in the broader context of "biological males", it'd be silly to argue they're male.
 
Sterile people are not sexless.

I mean, their male gonads aren't streak gonads, but they're not any more functional than streak gonads.

Their male gonads are not functional. In fact, even beyond just being non-functional, they cannot function. Their bodies cannot respond to testosterone.

If we agree that all mammals are strictly male or female, sex cannot rely on the individual ability to produce viable sperm or ova, because there's all kinds of sterility. The standard needs to be more nuanced than that.

Relying on the presence or absence of testicles or ovaries also doesn't work, because the gonads can just outright be absent, or non-functional (as with CAIS), or they can have ovotestes.

People with CAIS might be narrowly genetic males, but in the broader context of "biological males", it'd be silly to argue they're male.
Note I said capacity, not individual ability. Infertile women are still women, same for men.

CAIS people certainly shouldn't be treated like regular males in a medical setting for example, but they just aren't women. They will have similarities but they are not female.
 
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This troon has needed to fuck off for more than a decade. When they first appeared they were very anti man. Then at some point they wrote an article about how nothing is more femme than taking dick. Can any of my fellow Kiwis locate that one? Serano is a long time gender cult cow and its been entertaining to see the mental gymnastics over the last several years. Also this is proof AGPs age like shit.
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Anyway here's wonderwall....
 
Their male gonads are not functional. In fact, even beyond just being non-functional, they cannot function. Their bodies cannot respond to testosterone.

I‘m confused as to why non-functional male gonads make someone female. Do they have functional female gonads? Or non-functional, even?

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Troon fragility is ridiculous. They really can't do shit for themselves except whine about other people not catering to them and wiping their asses.

Lying dramatic troon anyway. Very little chance he isn’t signing himself up to stage a flounce. Lmao. He’s so irrelevant, it must make him frustrated.
 
Note I said capacity, not individual ability. Infertile women are still women, same for men.

CAIS people certainly shouldn't be treated like regular males in a medical setting for example, but they just aren't women. They will have similarities but they are not female.
The definition I would use is that the female of a mammalian species is the one that develops towards the production of large, immobile gametes.

That considers the totality of the circumstances. An individual can be missing individual parts of normal development but still be female.

Thus XX people with gonadal dysgenesis are still female. They cannot naturally produce ovum, but their bodies still develop towards that end. And XX people who have a functioning SRY gene develop along a male trajectory, again, even if they ultimately cannot succeed at producing sperm.

Unless we're getting into a very narrow field (less overall "biology" and more specific "genetics"), CAIS are more female than male.
I‘m confused as to why non-functional male gonads make someone female. Do they have functional female gonads? Or non-functional, even?
It's not that those are the marker that make them female. It's that they're the only thing remaining that would put their sex into question. If they did function, I'd say the person is male*, like with Caster Semenya. (I'd be polite to someone like Caster, but objectively they're realistically regarded as male.)

In male development, certain androgen hormones are released that reform the organs that could develop into either a female reproductive tract or a male one. If those androgen hormones don't work, the female reproductive tract is left as the default.

Edit: *Well, and to elaborate on this: it's not just that the testicles function, but all that implies. If your testicles function, then the rest of your body responds to testosterone in a male way too. So you produce sperm, and you also bulk up and react in all the other male ways to testosterone. People with CAIS do not. Their bodies convert testosterone into estrogen.
 
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If we agree that all mammals are strictly male or female, sex cannot rely on the individual ability to produce viable sperm or ova, because there's all kinds of sterility. The standard needs to be more nuanced than that.

Relying on the presence or absence of testicles or ovaries also doesn't work, because the gonads can just outright be absent, or non-functional (as with CAIS), or they can have ovotestes.

Transsexual April Ashley accidentally set the legal precedent for what defines reproductive sex in English law, which is that sex is determined by a combination of chromosomes, gonads, gametes and genitals.

People with CAIS have male chromosomes and male (non functioning) gonads, no gametes and female genitals, so are officially determined to be male (2 ticks for male, 1 tick for female).

Nonetheless almost all British CAIS people live their lives perceived as female and have female paperwork (having been erroneously assigned female at birth and not seeing any practical need to change that).

Not sure how other legal systems handle sex classification? The stupidity of the GRA and the ’legal fiction’ it created undermines this anyway, silly hodge podged laws.


I have chatted to a person with CAIS before and while they felt they didn’t really belong with women as a group, and avoided women only spaces as much as possible, they did understand and accept that society saw them as a woman and didn’t see much point in fighting that, because they would never fit in with men as a group either.

Nice person, complicated life. Lots of fear of rejection.


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Julia Serrano is the ballbag that decided loads of biological women have AGP, so AGPs are trueandhonestwomen.
Absolute nutcase.
 
Transsexual April Ashley accidentally set the legal precedent for what defines reproductive sex in English law, which is that sex is determined by a combination of chromosomes, gonads, gametes and genitals.

People with CAIS have male chromosomes and male (non functioning) gonads, no gametes and female genitals, so are officially determined to be male (2 ticks for male, 1 tick for female).

Nonetheless almost all British CAIS people live their lives perceived as female and have female paperwork (having been erroneously assigned female at birth and not seeing any practical need to change that).
That's a more realistic approach.
Not sure how other legal systems handle sex classification? The stupidity of the GRA and the ’legal fiction’ it created undermines this anyway, silly hodge podged laws.
The legal situation in the US is a clusterfuck because of federal vs state issues.

Some states permit birth certificates to be amended and all other states are required to accept them.

Of course, it's completely bonkers that people are allowed to amend their birth certificates at all for anything other than a factual error (ie wrong birth place or something), but that's currently how it works in many states.

State licenses list sex, but it's really treated more as gender because some states (including mine, god help us) offer a gender neutral "X" marker.
 
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