The Trial of Derek Chauvin - Judgement(?) Day(?) has arrived!

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Outcome?

  • Guilty of Murder

    Votes: 75 7.6%

  • Not Guilty of Murder (2nd/3rd), Guilty of Manslaughter

    Votes: 397 40.0%

  • Full Acquittal

    Votes: 221 22.3%

  • Mistrial

    Votes: 299 30.1%
  • Total voters
    992
  • Poll closed .
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Seminal Ointments Lain said:
No, I'm right

Reality is stealing human ideas and using them to generate things.

It would be a workable cosmic explanation for both the steady increase in "clown world", driven forward by the internet of things and constant 24/7 media spew and what we spew and what we say and write and think and make and that there's (supposedly) 7 billion people it constantly is going to cause an increase in speed, heat and popped corn.

It also "justifies" desperate attempts at secrey, censorship, controlled thought and context. Reality is cementing due to enforced consensus. This is important because 3D Reality is the cross-section between X (Conscious Perception) and Y (Unconscious Consensus).

Sorry we don't live in a secular fantasy land where everyone is dust and everything is a mirage.
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It makes sense in a more mundane way. People's preferences shape what courses of action are taken. The Deep South became a plantation economy because the distressed Cavaliers wanted to be feudal lords, and when their indentured servants died of disease they got some niggers and dressed them up like Wessexian peasants and taught them to talk like them too. Meanwhile our society outsources every low-time preference action to specialised agencies such as insurance companies, banks and "social safety nets", because the Boomer ideal is being able to romp around like a hippie without a care in the world.
 
Obscure Creature said:
Missed the first 3(?) hours of the trial today. Can someone give a little summary of what’s happened so far today?
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Not much, actually. Minneapolis Police Chief, Medaria Arradondo, was definitely playing to the prosecutor's tune, and stated that Chauvin “absolutely” violated policies on de-escalation, use of force and offering medical aid when he ignored Floyd’s cries for help. On the other hand, he also admitted that he isn't certified to make such judgements.
 
"In your experience, would you be able to touch the carotid artery if the knee was placed on the carotid artery?"

"No, sir."
 
Obscure Creature said:
Missed the first 3(?) hours of the trial today. Can someone give a little summary of what’s happened so far today?
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We're still on the first second witness of the day. He's an instructor who's in charge of teaching officers about holds I believe, but he doesn't do much continuing education. Prosecution is objecting and getting slapped down repeatedly. Prosecutors had the witness claim knee-on-neck is out of policy. Defense has just gotten him to admit that the knee was not on the carotid artery because it would be impossible to check Floyd's pulse if the knee was there.
 
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No Face said:
the 10 seconds thing correct?
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Not just this. The officer flat out admitted that the technique used by Chauvin is one he was trained in, and instructed to use in such situations. He also confirmed that pressing the knee to the neck couldn't have resulted in asphyxiation.
 
MoeChotto said:
We're still on the first witness of the day. He's an instructor who's in charge of teaching officers about holds I believe, but he doesn't do much continuing education. Prosecution is objecting and getting slapped down repeatedly. Prosecutors had the witness claim knee-on-neck is out of policy. Defense has just gotten him to admit that the knee was not on the carotid artery because it would be impossible to check Floyd's pulse if the knee was there.
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Second. There was the asian dude also, no?
 
JenkinsJinkies said:
I've wondered about this a lot, imagine growing up seeing kids get lynched for smiling at white girls with no consequences, then seeing the whole country chimp out and burn down cities because some ape got hopped up and overdosed fighting the cops...
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Honestly with what I've experienced of activism in my life, I'm not sure I believe things were ever actually like that.

How do I know that they just didn't lie about all that Jim Crow era shit, or at the very least twist it. In the modern day every single fucking time you hear the narrative "he was a good boy he dindu nuffin" it ALWAYS turns out to be a lie 100% without fail. How can I be sure that those lynching victims were innocent? Because "he was just smiling at the white girl he dindu nuffin" sounds an awful lot like "hands up don't shoot, he never attacked those cops".
 
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Thanks to all the expert legal analysts in here telling me how great the defense is doing I am now thoroughly convinced that Chauvin will be found guilty on everything.
 
No Face said:
the 10 seconds thing correct?
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That and the "is it possible for this pulse to be taken if the knee is on the cartoid artery.

Also once again, the knee on the back, and the shin being on the neck.
Thanks to all the expert legal analysts in here telling me how great the defense is doing I am now thoroughly convinced that Chauvin will be found guilty on everything.
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Hey now, none of us are BAR ceritifed. We just studied under Nick Rikieta's school of being wrong.
 
Kermit Jizz said:
Honestly with what I've experienced of activism in my life, I'm not sure I believe things were ever actually like that.

How do I know that they just didn't lie about all that Jim Crow era shit, or at the very least twist it. In the modern day every single fucking time you hear the narrative "he was a good boy he dindu nuffin" it ALWAYS turns out to be a lie 100% without fail. How can I be sure that those lynchings weren't justified at this point? Because "he was just smiling at the white girl he dindu nuffin" sounds an awful lot like "hands up don't shoot, he never attacked those cops".
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Well there's likely a lot of cases where that is true. But there's also demonstrable real racism you can look at. I mean whether some particular incident was really "just smiling" or not, we know that there were laws in the Jim Crow era that prevented people serving Black people or allowing them in a restaurant. It's certain that there were racial injustices in the past that regardless of the existence of bullshit narratives today.
 
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