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(CNN) — Natalie Sanchez heard it in her children's voices when their birthday parties were canceled and saw it on their faces when they couldn't play with friends.
It was more than just simple disappointment. It was fear that the world they once knew might have changed forever.
"I think that it's something that's going to kind of scar them. I don't think that they'll forget," says the mom of three in Little Rock, Arkansas. "In our life, there was a before and an after this."
When the novel coronavirus started spreading, many of us hoped the surge of widespread shutdowns would turn out to be short-lived -- little more than a blip on our collective radar. Now, a year into a worldwide disaster that's upended our society and left more than 2.6 million people dead, the conversation has changed.
The moments when it seemed like all of this could be momentary slipped away long ago. It's no longer a question of if this pandemic will shape an entire generation. But how.
Some experts have started to use a new term to talk about seismic changes they're seeing -- changes that could cause ripple effects in children's lives far into the future.
They've given a new name to the world's newest generation: Gen C, or Generation Covid.
"Covid is such a big mega-event in human history," says Haim Israel, head of thematic investing for BofA Global Research, who described Gen C in a widely cited report last year. "It's going to be the most defining moment for this generation."


Who's in Gen C?​

The term Gen C first started popping up in media reports early in the pandemic. More recently, investment analysts like Israel and children's rights advocates have taken to using variations on the phrase.
Defining a generation isn't simple. The names we use to talk about groups of people born in any given period can change over time -- sometimes because what seemed to be a defining event later turns out to be less influential than other forces at play, sometimes because a different term gains momentum and sticks.

Israel's definition of Gen C includes children born from 2016 to the mid-2030s -- because, he says, the changes we're witnessing are so dramatic that even kids born years after the pandemic ends will still see it shaping their lives.
"They're going to be different," Israel says. "They're being defined by a completely new world."
Asked who comprises Gen C, experts in other fields shared different guidelines with CNN.
A senior adviser at the United Nations Children's Fund said all children should be included -- especially those who've had points of transition in their lives disrupted. A sociology professor said college students shouldn't be left out. A mental health expert noted children aged 7-9 are particularly vulnerable.

Everyone agreed that we need to keep a close eye on what's happening to kids -- and that children born during the pandemic and living through major developmental milestones right now are an important part of this generation.
"The first 1,000 days are so critical in development," says Jennifer Requejo, a senior adviser for health and HIV at UNICEF. "While countries are focusing on a response to this pandemic, it's important they don't lose sight of these vulnerable time periods in children's lives. There are some very important issues that can't be set aside."

How the world looks to this new generation's youngest members​

A baby stares wide-eyed at the camera as familiar music plays.
It's the tune of the classic children's song -- "If You're Happy and You Know It." But the words in this TikTok version are different.
"If you're a pandemic baby and you've been in quarantine your whole life so you get overstimulated by everything 'cause all the strangers that you see have masks on, and you've never really had a playdate in your life, clap your hands."

But she also sees a positive side.
"My hope is they'll be a stronger generation," she says, "because we've been through a lot in a year."
Frank Danko, a 27-year-old supermarket manager in New York, says his family spent far more time together due to the pandemic than they would have had a chance to do otherwise. That gave him a chance to have more one-on-one time with his daughter Adriana, who's now nearly nine months old. No matter what happens next, he says, Adriana and the other members of her generation will experience it together.
"My baby, she's going to grow up however the world is," he says. "It's what she knows."

The pandemic will affect kids in different ways​

We don't know how the world will look post-pandemic. That could take months, years or even decades to discern.
We do know that parents are worried, many kids are hitting the wall and the most vulnerable children are even more at risk. The president of the American Academy of Pediatrics warns that what started as a public health emergency has become a mental health crisis for children and adolescents. And UNICEF says its data "uncover a devastating and distorted new normal for the world's children."
But scholars say dissecting the problems of the present isn't the only way to think about Gen C's future. There's also a lot we can learn from the past.
"I'm seeing so many similarities...just in terms of the inequalities that were there all along but become starkly apparent during a time of crisis," says Lori Peek, director of the Natural Hazards Center at the University of Colorado Boulder. For their book, "Children of Katrina," Peek and co-author Alice Fothergill followed hundreds of children to see how the devastating 2005 storm shaped their lives.

"The patterns were clear that low-income African Americans were the most exposed in Katrina, and they suffered the most protracted recovery and the worst impacts," Peek says. "And the same thing is happening in the pandemic."
People of color are dying and getting sick at higher rates, Peek says, and children of color are disproportionately out of school. And those inequalities, she says, need to be not only acknowledged, but also factored into recovery efforts.
It's a takeaway Jonathan Comer's found in his research, too. The professor of psychology and psychiatry at Florida International University has studied the effects of terror attacks like 9/11 and the Boston Marathon Bombing on children. Often, he says, the situations children's families were in before disaster struck -- and the support they received afterward -- played a bigger role in shaping the longer-term mental health impacts than anything the children directly experienced.
"It's too early to tell, of course, what the overall character of this generation will look like and how the mental health of this generation will be affected in the long-term," Comer says. "But it seems that there's not going to be a universal character or personality impact, because the burdens of these times are not shared equally."

How this generation compares to children of the Great Depression​

That's as true now as it was nearly a century ago.
"There's no one path through this experience. And that was true in the Great Depression," says Glen H. Elder Jr., a distinguished research professor of sociology at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.
Elder says the research behind his book "Children of the Great Depression," revealed several points that have parallels in this pandemic.
A child's age at the time played a role in how the experience shaped their future, he says.
Older boys who lived through the Depression were able to find jobs and felt they had agency in the situation, Elder says, while younger boys were stuck at home and deeply affected by how their parents were handling it. They became "targets of their fathers' frustration," Elder says, and years later were still suffering the consequences.
Today, too, mental health experts say how parents are handling the pandemic has a big impact on children -- especially younger kids

Another important point: being exposed to a major social change doesn't necessarily influence someone's entire life -- because whatever comes next could play an even bigger role, Elder says. Many children of the Great Depression, he notes, struggled at first, but later went on to have decorated military careers in the Korean War.
"Their military service was quite remarkable," he says. "It had a lot to do with the fact that they had dealt with hard times and they knew how to manage a tough situation."
The daily realities of the pandemic have become achingly clear. But we don't know what major social events will be unfolding days or decades from now.

Technology will be a big part of Gen C's lives. But their future isn't set in stone​

Israel, the Bank of America analyst, has been spending a lot of time thinking about what the future will look like. And he's optimistic.
"To be honest, I really envy Gen C," he says. "I think they're going to live in a fascinating world."
Changes that we've already been seeing with Gen Z, the preceding generation, will accelerate, he says. For example, Israel predicts Gen C will have the opportunity to work wherever they want in the world, without leaving the comforts of their home.
"The role of technology, of data creation, is going to accelerate dramatically. ...They will live their life online," he says. "They'll get their experience in the virtual world."

Experts who study child development and disasters say there are plenty of reasons to worry about Gen C's future, too.
"Every age group is at risk," Comer says, noting that he and other mental health professionals are particularly worried about what he calls the "in-betweeners" who are showing increased behavioral problems and signs of depression.
Older children have a better grasp of the situation and can better express their distress. Younger children don't know a previous time when things were different. But Comer says many kids in the middle -- who aren't as good at articulating complicated feelings and "are still early in understanding the world" -- are really struggling.
"We're seeing 7-year-olds, 8-year-olds, 9-year-olds who already -- just from enduring the past year of isolation, home schooling, being out of routines and structure and activities -- are having considerably negative mental health impacts," he says.
It's too soon to know what that will mean down the line, Comer says, but the ripple effects will likely be seen for years to come. And another factor, he says, can't be ignored. This disaster, unlike many others in the past, hasn't spawned the same sort of community solidarity that can help with recovery, Comer says.
"This hardship has been marked by more unrest and more mistrust. ... We're not seeing the large-scale community cohesion that sometimes helps generations and cohorts get through some of the most difficult times," he says.
But the situation is still unfolding. And in some ways, that's a good thing.
"None of this is written in stone in terms of where we go from here," Peek says.
With so much uncertainty, one of the most important things we can do to make sure we're on the right path, Peek says, is talk to children about what they're experiencing, listen to what they're saying and give them a chance to contribute however they can.
What all of us do now will play a big role in shaping Gen C's future.
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Getting to call the next generation "coomers" outweighs how forced this is.
 
Kids about age 7~12 right now are witnessing what I witnessed as 9-year-old in 2001, which is the start of a massive erosion of personal freedom. Everything's going to be different and it'll never be any better.
 
The beginning of yet another layer of distopian BS.
I feel so bad for the really young kids. I feel bad for the unborn because they haven't even seen a pre-lockdown world.
 
Kids about age 7~12 right now are witnessing what I witnessed as 9-year-old in 2001, which is the start of a massive erosion of personal freedom. Everything's going to be different and it'll never be any better.
Can you explain what you mean by "this is it forever"? I've seen you express this sentiment before.
 
Can you explain what you mean by "this is it forever"? I've seen you express this sentiment before.
You'll never walk a family member to the gate at the airport again. You'll never have a world without the NSA spying on you again. You'll never be able to decide if you want a vaccine again. You'll never be able to decide if you'll risk getting sick again.

Chances are we're heading into UBI and they'll yank that UBI from you if you're a political dissident, while you're also unemployable if you're a political dissident.

This is just the rest of our lives forever.
 
You'll never walk a family member to the gate at the airport again. You'll never have a world without the NSA spying on you again. You'll never be able to decide if you want a vaccine again. You'll never be able to decide if you'll risk getting sick again.

Chances are we're heading into UBI and they'll yank that UBI from you if you're a political dissident, while you're also unemployable if you're a political dissident.

This is just the rest of our lives forever.
I agree, but I think it'll collapse quicker then most think based off recent actions.
Name one freedom taken away from Americans after 9/11 that ever came back to what it was before.
Who needs freedom when you can have Drag Queen Story Hour?
 
Kids about age 7~12 right now are witnessing what I witnessed as 9-year-old in 2001, which is the start of a massive erosion of personal freedom. Everything's going to be different and it'll never be any better.
Literally though, my youngest brother is 11 now, and my second youngest is fifteen and they got into this massive argument about going out, and the 11 year old is getting unbelievably frustrated.

It's fucking sad man, my little brother was just like 'That's just the way it is man' to his younger brother and he just didn't get it, he doesn't get why he's not allowed out to the park with his friends (I and my family have no issue with it, but the police disperse them and threaten them with fines), or go casually swimming anymore, or why he has to wear a fucking mask to get sweets. There's no way to explain it to him without just going 'because the government have a hard on for control'.
 
You can’t escape this bullshit which is the most maddening thing. Wanna move to the woods and do your thing hope you don’t get ruby ridged. There’s plenty of videos of people homesteading and the cops show up for no fucking real reason to harass them. Industrial society etc...
 
You can’t escape this bullshit which is the most maddening thing. Wanna move to the woods and do your thing hope you don’t get ruby ridged. There’s plenty of videos of people homesteading and the cops show up for no fucking real reason to harass them. Industrial society etc...
Participation in the shit show is mandatory citizen. Honestly it almost makes me wanna move to some 3rd world shithole and live like a king in a gated compound. Russia, or Bulgaria, or Romania probably pays pretty decently for doctors; same with some south east asian country. I just don't wanna leave the UK.
 
OPEN THE FUCK UP THEN IF YOU WANT TO AVOID THIS SHIT.
NO STOP THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE!

HOW CAN I BITCH AND MOAN AND PRETEND TO BE ON THE PRECEPICE OF OBLIVION IF WE RETURN TO NORMALCY? HOW WILL ANYONE FIND ME INTERESTING, WISE AND SAGELY?
PLUS, YOU'D KILL GRANDMA. YOU DON'T WANNA KILL GRANDMA, NOW DO YOU?!

Jokes aside, +1 for @REGENDarySumanai's statement. Unfortunately, now that the government has a taste for unlimited power, they're never going to renege on it, and if they do, it's going to come with some sort of catch (e.g. the aforementioned "vaccine passport"). *sigh*
 
I called it a few weeks ago:



I've said it a dozen times on the Farms already, but I'll say it again: the real victims of WuFlu aren't "muh grandma"...it's the youth. There's an entire generation of kids whose lives are now all permanently fucked up because these draconian actions. Even people who lived in the worst of times in America still had childhoods: even my grandparents who grew up in the Great Depression still had the freedom to play kick-the-can or jacks in the streets with their poor, dirty friends in their Hoovervilles. Children nowadays have spent the past year of their lives without social interactions, birthdays, and holidays. They're forced in isolation and denied the ability to learn and develop their young minds, especially at the ages where it matters the most. Forgive me if I'm coming across as Helen Lovejoy, but I'm being real here. I don't give a rat's ass about grandma, I give a rat's ass about the neighbor's kid who struggles to ride a tricycle in their driveway with a Peppa Pig coof mask covering their face.

Lots of future Elliot Rodgers, Greta Thunbergs, Chris-Chans, Quintons, Linkaras, Nikocado Avocados, and MrGirls. A whole generation of assorted lolcows, spastics, and turbo woke troons all thanks to their early years being stunted by a fucking Chink virus. If you think us Millennials and Zoomers are bad, wait until 10-15 years from now when you see an entire generation of teenagers and young adults who never learned to socialize or read peoples' facial expressions in their early youth. An entire generation of kids who were raised by weak, compliant parents who burned into their memory that you need to do exactly what the government says at all times and never question anything from official sources™.
 
Kids about age 7~12 right now are witnessing what I witnessed as 9-year-old in 2001, which is the start of a massive erosion of personal freedom. Everything's going to be different and it'll never be any better.
If that turns out anything like it did for Dubya, oh boy I can't wait to hear what cutting criticism aging punk bands like Green Day levy against this admin.
 
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