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The NYT had a very good editorial on M. Trump recently. The Daily Show's also been great at putting out Trump content.

One fellow who I feel is under-appreciated on his Trump takedowns is Eugene Robinson. He wrote a great one recently for the WP, but he's been writing great stuff on Trump for awhile. Here's one from 2011 I absolutely adore.

Eugene Robinson said:
Unbelievably, the waxen-haired real estate tycoon is at the front of the pack of contenders who are racing, or thinking about racing, for the Republican nomination. This isn’t merely improbable. It is literally unbelievable, as if a trout were reported to be leading the Tour de France.
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Sparing his ego, why does he still think that he has a chance at political office? His baggage from the last election cycle already turned more than enough people away from him.
 
RepQuest said:
Sparing his ego, why does he still think that he has a chance at political office? His baggage from the last election cycle already turned more than enough people away from him.
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You think anyone with an ego his size needs any other reason?

People do this kind of shit all the time. Herman Cain ran for President last time, and he didn't even know what Lybia or Uzbekistan were. Ted Cruz is running now, and he has less of a chance winning than Trump. Ross Perot did this in '92 and '96.

Some people are just very loud and completely out of touch with reality. I know this is hard to imagine, but rest assured, that's only because you live on Planet Earth and don't entertain the thought of flying higher than Yurtle the Turtle.
 
*Asterisk* said:
You think anyone with an ego his size needs any other reason?

People do this kind of shit all the time. Herman Cain ran for President last time, and he didn't even know what Lybia or Uzbekistan were. Ted Cruz is running now, and he has less of a chance winning than Trump. Ross Perot did this in '92 and '96.
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Ted Cruz is not a serious candidate in the sense that he isn't going to win the primary, but he's an entirely legitimate candidate. He's not there just to fuck shit up.

Ross Perot also perhaps had a counterproductive effect on the election, throwing it to Clinton, but he had a substantial number of voters, perhaps the most significant of the Twentieth Century other than Roosevelt's Bull Moose Party. Perot also had an intelligible platform and policy positions other than "lol grunt beaners are rapists."

Cruz certainly has a self-serving purpose for his run, but it's one the primary has always had before, and that's to get his name in front of voters and potentially set himself up for a future election in which he might actually stand a chance.

Trump is solely in it for his own ego and he doesn't give a flying fuck what damage he does to the party or to the country. Sure he's allowed to do that but he's a colossal douchebag. Also he isn't a billionaire. That's bullshit too.

Not that I care. It's a huge hoot.

But if I were a Republican I'd be pretty pissed off. He's really poisoning the well for other candidates, especially whoever ends up the actual nominee. Probably Jeb, who is handling the situation rather well and using Trump's bloviating idiocy as a platform to portray himself as actually having a clue.
 
As for the latest Trump news, he's polling quite well; even winning a North Carolina poll.

This means little. Herman Cain and Howard Dean both won polls. And even if Trump wins, he couldn't beat Michael Dukakis. But it's looking more likely that he'll wind up in the FOX debates and drag everyone he can into a septic tank.

If I were a prominent Republican: I'd bust Totò Riina out of prison, tell him Trump taught Rudy Giuliani everything he knew about crackdowns, give him the real life equivalent of a GTA cheat code, and. . .

. . . .well "que sera, sera" as our nations greatest rapists like to say.

Edit: This post is purely satirical and in no way endorses the commitment of illegal acts against anybody rich and/or powerful enough to take offense. For those who did take offense, please contact @NostalgiaJazzAdmirer for all your complaints.
 
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AnOminous said:
Ross Perot also perhaps had a counterproductive effect on the election, throwing it to Clinton, but he had a substantial number of voters, perhaps the most significant of the Twentieth Century other than Roosevelt's Bull Moose Party. Perot also had an intelligible platform and policy positions other than "lol grunt beaners are rapists."
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Hell, Perot could have conceivably won some states and pushed the election to the House of Representatives in 1992 had he not oddly withdrawn from the campaign and then jumped back in. He was leading in national polls with 39% that June before he started fucking up.
 
If Donald Trump becomes President, he'll swear an oath on his own book instead of the Bible or Constitution.

If Donald Trump dealt with Vladimir Putin, Putin would not make it through the meeting - he would finally break composure...laughing nonstop at Trump.

If Donald Trump becomes President, Al-Qaeda would call off all terrorist attacks, and issue a video; "Allah has dealt a cripplingly terrible blow to America. Justice is done. The Trump is President."
 
This HuffPost story about Trump really made me feel better. Unfortunately, I read this CNN story about him being ahead in the polls by 18% right after.

I know it has a rather low chance of happening, but if he really wins, I'm leaving the country. The fact that anyone can lie so completely about everything they represent and believe, yet still be taken seriously by a significant portion of people and maintain a position of power they neither earned nor deserved makes me wonder if there's anything worth fighting for in this country.

This is a guy who fenced off a man's house for a golf course and sent said man the bill for it. This is a man who rails against crime committed by illegal immigrants while himself having many, many ties to local mobsters and crooks. This is a man who presents himself as the face of the free market while embodying all our nations worst elements of crony capitalism and government/business collusion and corruption. This is a man whose idea of business was lifted exclusively from Boris Yeltsin.

This is about more than politics. I swear on the Blood of Christ: every single person who supports Donald Trump is either too retarded to deserve life in a free society, too greedy to deserve a bucket of piss if they were dying of thirst, or too cynical to deserve anything but a one way trip to 1990s Moscow. That goes for every single cunt blister who promotes this vile crook in any news platform regardless of weather they think he could or should hold any position above "cardboard-sign holder" again. Especially you: Ted Cruz, Charles Hurt, and Scot Vorse.

If I ever gained the power Donald Trump thinks he deserves, I'd tattoo "Worse Than Madoff" on his bald spot. At least he didn't need to use his dead daddy to steal other people's money.
 
*Asterisk* said:
If I ever gained the power Donald Trump thinks he deserves, I'd tattoo "Worse Than Madoff" on his bald spot. At least he didn't need to use his dead daddy to steal other people's money.
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Trump has a 57% disapproval rating. Among Republicans. This is the highest disapproval rating of any Republican candidate in recent memory. Even Pat Buchanan only had a 43% disapproval rating among Republicans at this time in the campaign.

He is not a real candidate. He is pure kayfabe.

The impact of his "candidacy" at this point is to suck up all the coverage that the serious but secondary candidates (like Walker and Cruz) could be getting, while distracting the negative coverage that Hillary could be getting. If I were a Republican, I'd be really pissed.

But I'm not. So I find all this hilarious.

What I don't find hilarious is that our joke of a "free press" is breathlessly repeating lies from Trump like the nonsense that he is worth $10 billion when it is unlikely he's worth even $1 billion. That utter fabrications like this aren't even examined is an absolute failure of the "press" to do even the rudiments of their job.
 
I really do understand your point @AnOminous. My hatred of Donald Trump is based off far more than his candidacy and political positions. I hate Trump because he's a lifelong fraud, a pathological liar, a proud ignoramus, unspeakably wealthy through no abilities of his own, and yet in spite of all this he continues to get almost everything he wants.

Trump isn't worthy of selling crayola medallions of a fan-fiction character, and yet there's still people who interact with him in a serious capacity. That such a scenario's even possible is proof positive that the only cure for our country is an enema with a syringe the size of every building that hateful retard ever put his name on.
 
*Asterisk* said:
I really do understand your point @AnOminous. My hatred of Donald Trump is based off far more than his candidacy and political positions. I hate Trump because he's a lifelong fraud, a pathological liar, a proud ignoramus, unspeakably wealthy through no abilities of his own, and yet in spite of all this he continues to get almost everything he wants.

Trump isn't worthy of selling crayola medallions of a fan-fiction character, and yet there's still people who interact with him in a serious capacity. That such a scenario's even possible is proof positive that the only cure for our country is an enema with a syringe the size of every building that hateful exceptional individual ever put his name on.
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@*Asterisk* , Trump is playing a role as a populist-style candidate. I can blame his appeal on a number of different factors, but to put it simply there really is not much of a place in our public discourse for strong policy debate. A lot of people sadly are not interested in it and not many ad guys know how to market it.

We live in a culture that often values presentation and sensation over reasonably examined policy debates. We often cover horse races and personalities rather than substance. Is it any wonder then why in the Republican field it is often the most flashy that wins. Thanks to the severe influx of money, campaigns are more media driven. It is simply a fact. With much of our media revolving around drama and entertainment - we expect our campaigns to be filled with it as well.

Getting mad at Trump is a meaningless exercise. Likely by the time of the 2016 election we will have had our latest economic collapse. (They come every 8 years these days and we are about due for another).

The problem that I have with Mr Trump is that his campaign offers very simple solutions with no substance to very complex problems. Sadly the details of these problems are kept from the public simply because they are so poorly reported on and crucial details are left out.

Donald Trump is a media perfect candidate. His message is simple and tailored to fit what most people understand. He makes great stories that get great ratings. He is perfect for discussion and he makes a great clown for the public to enjoy. He will likely not get nominated, but he will displace a number of others from the field who don't have the resources on their own to raise the capital to mount a strong campaign.

If he becomes a 3rd party spoiler, it says more about the fragmented state of the republican party from its more main street base.
 
AWB-81 said:
@*Asterisk* ,I can blame his appeal on a number of different factors, but to put it simply there really is not much of a place in our public discourse for strong policy debate
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When I think of a list of things that make Donald Trump stand out as a candidate, "strong policy debate" isn't one of them.

A lot of Democrats are invested in the idea that Trump is a serious candidate because it makes the Republican party look ridiculous by association. I don't really begrudge it to them, I guess, since he is a Republican, he is ridiculous, and while he isn't a serious contender there's a non-zero number of Republicans who are willing to support him, so it's all in legitimate good fun. However, I have a suspicion that in five years time when Trump's candidacy is as relevant as Herman Cain's is today, there will still be Democrats getting scandalised by some piece of Trump idiocy, which is less forgiveable.

But for now, Trump's here, Trump's running, Trump's a political imbecile, so sure, have fun. Just don't think, my Democratic friends, that pointing out how dumb Trump is is actually going to win you the election.
 
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Trump has my vote. He can piss off both liberals and conservatives at the same time and i need a president who can just give a big middle finger to the rest of the world.
 
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