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My opinion is that it won't happen because within 10 years, I expect that trans movement to kick out the LGB for bigotry.

I don't think you will be able to support both lesbians and trans people by 2030.

I mean, the LGB alliance is already considered "alt-right."

I think you're being very generous with your 10 year projection. LGB have been trying to seperate from the T for a while because the T turned on them a few years ago. With the supergay and superlesbian meme catching on fast (but in their case it seems to be the result of many years of fustration) I wouldn't be surprise if there was a huge shift happening next year if not this year (life comes at you fast). That whole LGB alliance being alt right was so stupid I remember when it happened. Also the T forced many to chose between supporting them and the L for some time, and seeing the shit these "trans activists" are pulling i'm firmly supporting Lesbians,

I think many people in general are tired of the trans oppression olympics and the whole shit show is going to explode sooner rather than later.
 
Well if anyone wanted a handy diagram ... assume KF is the skeptic edge lord category- although I'd hate to label and confine to any of these fine categories .. ;)

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As stupid as that Venn diagram is, at least it's not fundamentally wrong. The bigger issue is that it could be condensed into a few basic rules.
  1. Far Right beliefs are a strict subset of Right Wing/Conservative beliefs; you must be Right Wing to be Far Right (but not vice versa)
  2. TERFs are never Right Wing/Conservative. (Actually surprised that he's willing to acknowledge that. Bet you there are people in the comments saying that that's inaccurate)
  3. Skeptic/Edgelords are never Religious People
  4. Otherwise anti-trans political beliefs come in all sorts of flavors and combinations including people who don't fit into any of these categories
Seems right to me.

Don't get your hopes up that this Superstraight thing will have any meaningful impact. It's hilarious and if people were sensible they'd see that it was in reaction to a situation that was very real and very stupid with regards to the troons trying to force themselves on people, but more likely we wake up one morning and the subreddit is banned and everyone celebrates taking down the literal nazis and they're emboldened to be even shittier.

I'd love to be proven wrong, though.
I think it will go down in the same way as GamerGate. It's a silly, autistic reaction to some really shady behavior and it will be shut down by over-bearing activists and their allies in alt-media will quickly jump in to paint the GamerGates/SuperStraights as the newest form of Naziism. The GamerGate/SuperStraight side will then react to the obvious media bias. Then lazy mainstream journalists (and a couple actually complicit ones) will report on the scandal, mostly relying on the alt-media sources to do their research. At the same time, actual alt-right idiots will try to hijack the movement and the critical reports will inexplicably only report on the memes that they make.
In a few years almost everyone will look back at it and realize that the GamerGate/Superstraight movement was a) not that important in the grand scheme of things b) probably not literal Nazis. A small percentage of people will continue to refuse to believe one of those things.
 
He calls himself bisexual, and talks about how he wasn't taken seriously, even by his parents when he "came out" to them as bi. He had a girlfriend at the time. Nothing against bisexuals, but if homosexuality is outlawed, as a gay man I suffer, but bisexuals just lose half their dating pool. Cry me a fucking river.

I'm sure he's just straight saying he's bi, and even then he is in a seemingly happy heterosexual relationship. Who fucking cares what he thinks. "I'm bi too" means nothing. He's desperate for that *B* so he's not just another straight white guy on the internet, and so he can call people bigots from inside LGBT.

Anyway he mentioned that he has a girlfriend and she chimes in like, hi I'm here. She's such a winner that she spends her time watching her boyfriend play video games on youtube, not showing his face, getting upset over sexualities neither of them have anything to do with.
No, I'm sick of them. A sizable portion of the people who have been pushing the "genital preferences are transphobia" for years are 'bisexual' and openly don't even claim to be trans (maybe at a push they'll go for the quirky enby). When you click on their profiles and read through, their visceral hatred for gay men/lesbians (or in queer talk "monosexuals") usually is never far behind. I'll take my hats but most of this is a deep seated hatred for gay people. "I never felt queer enough when I only ever had relationships with people of the opposite sex and gay people weren't fawning over me to throw rose petals at my feet when I graced them with my presence so now I'm going to make them suffer."

A few weeks I go I saw some of these assholes furious, trying to claim 'racist white privilege' on the gays pointing out it is still illegal to be gay in 70 countries. Somehow this was 'disrespectful' to the gay people there? :story:
 
I wish I could believe this will come to a head and people will realize how insane it is but I honestly think it's only going to get worse, straight and gay people (especially the white ones) are going to be treated like shit more and more and it will be totally acceptable. By the time the idiots in power who keep giving these people what they want realize they're next on the chopping block and that appeasing them doesn't mean they like you it will be too late.

I don't think we're going to have anything stupid like camps for straight white men or not fucking a troon becoming a crime, but it's insane and it's dire and it's only gonna get moreso. I'm only in my early 30s but I am super thankful I'll likely have died before it gets to it's worst point and I can mostly just keep to myself with my family while the world goes mad around us.
 
My opinion is that it won't happen because within 10 years, I expect that trans movement to kick out the LGB for bigotry.

I don't think you will be able to support both lesbians and trans people by 2030.

I mean, the LGB alliance is already considered "alt-right."


Trans people won't kick the LGBs out, but there will be a gradual shift away from LGBT, LGBTQ+, etc, in favour of a Queer community with a single group label.

'Queer' embodies everything that the modern movement has become - i.e. being 'inclusive' of groups that don't really belong there, tucutes, and the general hatred of western society. Currently there is an ideological war within said community about whether queer counts as a slur or not. And oddly enough, the people who say they feel personally victimised by it tend to also be the ones who also object to the other things queer represents (whether they form that association consciously or not).

So once the community purges all its undesirables (TERFs, truscum and anyone who won't get with the programme), it'll be way easier for them to remove explicit mentions of lesbians, gay and bisexual people, since they're are 'aLrEaDy iNcLuDeD iN QuEEr'.

If they keep an acronym, they may shorten it to TQ+ or QTI, the latter of which is already part of some other acronyms. Have you heard of QTIPOC? You will soon. And on behalf of the UK, I apologise in advance.
 
Proof of the ongoing inclusivity of the reddit-SuperStraights "

Clearing up some misconceptions about the super community​


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I am living for the cope about how it MUST be an alt-right nazi 4chan kiwifarms brigade and not a genuine thing that’s happening.

like they’ve spent so much time being coddled and protected by MSM and their fellow tech troons that they can not conceptualize how things have now hit a boiling point after years of being told to suck the girldick, bigot. Its ultimately not likely going to amount to much but it’s at least exposing a whole lot of normal, curious people who would otherwise be of the THEY JUST WANT TO PEE set to what these lunatics are actually pushing for and why a lot of the LGB want to drop the T.


As stupid as that Venn diagram is, at least it's not fundamentally wrong. The bigger issue is that it could be condensed into a few basic rules.
  1. Far Right beliefs are a strict subset of Right Wing/Conservative beliefs; you must be Right Wing to be Far Right (but not vice versa)
  2. TERFs are never Right Wing/Conservative. (Actually surprised that he's willing to acknowledge that. Bet you there are people in the comments saying that that's inaccurate)
  3. Skeptic/Edgelords are never Religious People
  4. Otherwise anti-trans political beliefs come in all sorts of flavors and combinations including people who don't fit into any of these categories
Seems right to me.


I think it will go down in the same way as GamerGate. It's a silly, autistic reaction to some really shady behavior and it will be shut down by over-bearing activists and their allies in alt-media will quickly jump in to paint the GamerGates/SuperStraights as the newest form of Naziism. The GamerGate/SuperStraight side will then react to the obvious media bias. Then lazy mainstream journalists (and a couple actually complicit ones) will report on the scandal, mostly relying on the alt-media sources to do their research. At the same time, actual alt-right idiots will try to hijack the movement and the critical reports will inexplicably only report on the memes that they make.
In a few years almost everyone will look back at it and realize that the GamerGate/Superstraight movement was a) not that important in the grand scheme of things b) probably not literal Nazis. A small percentage of people will continue to refuse to believe one of those things.
i kind of disagree only because of how much gross pedo shit and grooming goes on in the troon realms. I didn’t really follow gamergate so I can’t say how it compares but this is exposing a lot of parents and future parents (and especially dads and future dads) who thought they didn’t really have anything to worry about that yes their children are in danger. It’s showing them these aren’t all gigafaggots who came out of the womb prancing in a tutu, who then neutered themselves into total passivity, replaced their cocks with a hole in their taint, and who have no interest at all in women. And that’s really the key. I truly believe that making all the center-left dads collectively imagine someone like Yaniv following their 6 year old into the bathroom is going to be something they can’t shove down the memory hole.

And since those center-left theyjustwanttopees were subject to the same shit the terves have been complaining about in real time, they can’t just brush it off as Cherry picked receipts over a very long time. This is hundreds of people losing their absolute shit and threatening to kill because straight men don’t want a dick in their butt.

time will tell but I’m choosing to believe that a whole lot of dudes who were just along for the ride just realized what they had been supporting.
 
By the time the idiots in power who keep giving these people what they want realize they're next on the chopping block and that appeasing them doesn't mean they like you it will be too late.
If you want a vision of the future, imagine a size 14 bedazzled pink stiletto boot stamping on a human face - forever.
 
Trans people won't kick the LGBs out, but there will be a gradual shift away from LGBT, LGBTQ+, etc, in favour of a Queer community with a single group label.

'Queer' embodies everything that the modern movement has become - i.e. being 'inclusive' of groups that don't really belong there, tucutes, and the general hatred of western society. Currently there is an ideological war within said community about whether queer counts as a slur or not. And oddly enough, the people who say they feel personally victimised by it tend to also be the ones who also object to the other things queer represents (whether they form that association consciously or not).

So once the community purges all its undesirables (TERFs, truscum and anyone who won't get with the programme), it'll be way easier for them to remove explicit mentions of lesbians, gay and bisexual people, since they're are 'aLrEaDy iNcLuDeD iN QuEEr'.

If they keep an acronym, they may shorten it to TQ+ or QTI, the latter of which is already part of some other acronyms. Have you heard of QTIPOC? You will soon. And on behalf of the UK, I apologise in advance.

That goes along with how POC became BIPOC to be "more inclusive" even though that makes no sense when the ultior motive was to remove Asians and Latinos from the POC category.

I truly believe that making all the center-left dads collectively imagine someone like Yaniv following their 6 year old into the bathroom is going to be something they can’t shove down the memory hole.

I have yet to start a family, but the past year has shown me that I may need to move to a Southern state before long even though all of my family are here and mostly normal. Not just for this, but the never ending lockdowns.
 
That goes along with how POC became BIPOC to be "more inclusive" even though that makes no sense when the ultior motive was to remove Asians and Latinos from the POC category.
Not removed. Demoted. And it was a very conscious decision to demote them. I could be wrong, but I've always interpreted that abomination to mean the superset of 'Black, Indigenous AND people of colour'.

Still, one might ask: if POC includes Asians, so why not just drop the first two letters - since it presumably also includes Black and Indigenous?

And the reason they don't is power. Black people are the most important POC, so they deserve special emphasis. Indigenous is lower down the progressive stack, but still very high, so they get second place. The other POC are still considered part of the community, but only if they agree to simp for the more oppressed blacks and injuns.
 
Not removed. Demoted. And it was a very conscious decision to demote them. I could be wrong, but I've always interpreted that abomination to mean the superset of 'Black, Indigenous AND people of colour'.

Still, one might ask: if POC includes Asians, so why not just drop the first two letters - since it presumably also includes Black and Indigenous?

And the reason they don't is power. Black people are the most important POC, so they deserve special emphasis. Indigenous is lower down the progressive stack, but still very high, so they get second place. The other POC are still considered part of the community, but only if they agree to simp for the more oppressed blacks and injuns.

You're not wrong technically, but I kinda press X to doubt.

If you asked half of these black Activists if Asians are POC, they will absolutely scream NO!!!!

 
So #transwomenarewomen is the number 5 trending hashtag in the US (#internationalwomensday is top). I had to do a bit of scrolling because Twitter troons seem to know how to use filters and lighting better than the beasts of reddit. My personal favorite is the comment about crying by the fat guy. Looks like female hormones still can't destroy rigid gender roles.

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I went to a BLM march last year and "black trans lives" were brought up almost as frequently as "black lives", which was almost brought up as frequently as people's posters with their Cash Apps asking for donations.

Just like when ~2015 gay white men were being softly cast out of the oppression olympics, soon it won't even be enough to be trans, you'll have to be a trans POC to be recognized as oppressed.
 
You're not wrong technically, but I kinda press X to doubt.

If you asked half of these black Activists if Asians are POC, they will absolutely scream NO!!!!


As with Jews and Latinos, it depends on the day of the week.

But you bet your ass these fuckers will bring up internment camps as soon as it draws a favourable comparison with the groups they're trying to simp for.

Besides, how else do you explain tweets like this? (Archive)

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Context is that they're demanding Asian voice actors for a remake of Avatar: The Last Airbender - a show where most of the characters are light-skinned Asians (or at least, people from a fictional world that's heavily styled after east Asia, if you wish to be autistic about it).

Edit: same basic concept as:

It’s “forced teaming.” It’s a tactic of predators, groomers, and domestic abusers (described in The Gift of Fear) that they have adopted.

They hijack other movements, slap their branding everywhere, count on the people there for the actual movement to be too polite to bother to drive they away, and they do this until everybody thinks it’s their movement, or at least that they’re a core and critical part of it, instead of the parasitic subhuman lifeforms they actually are.

I never knew it by that term before, but damn. "Forced teaming" describes it perfectly. Thanks
 
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Just like when ~2015 gay white men were being softly cast out of the oppression olympics, soon it won't even be enough to be trans, you'll have to be a trans POC to be recognized as oppressed.

Already happened. I forget the full context, but a black trans woman demanded an apology for some perceived slight, a white trans woman actually stood up and did it (probably to earn woke points), and the black women literally berated her for the apology not being good enough.

Original source; Skip to 4:34. I'm archiving it now.


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I went to a BLM march last year and "black trans lives" were brought up almost as frequently as "black lives", which was almost brought up as frequently as people's posters with their Cash Apps asking for donations.

Just like when ~2015 gay white men were being softly cast out of the oppression olympics, soon it won't even be enough to be trans, you'll have to be a trans POC to be recognized as oppressed.

It’s “forced teaming.” It’s a tactic of predators, groomers, and domestic abusers (described in The Gift of Fear) that they have adopted.

They hijack other movements, slap their branding everywhere, count on the people there for the actual movement to be too polite to bother to drive them away, and they do this until everybody thinks it’s their movement, or at least that they’re a core and critical part of it, instead of the parasitic subhuman lifeforms they actually are.
 
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