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Oh piss off! said:
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Does anyone know how Mumsnet hasn't been banned off the internet yet? It's one of the very few websites on the internet where trannies can't intimidate women into silence and compliance, and I see them psychotically seething over this fact on a regular basis. It's like their Moby Dick.

You'd think some troon at Silicon Valley would've made sure to use his position to take them down by down.
 
Gizmoduck said:
Does anyone know how Mumsnet hasn't been banned off the internet yet? It's one of the very few websites on the internet where trannies can't intimidate women into silence and compliance, and I see them psychotically seething over this fact on a regular basis. It's like their Moby Dick.

You'd think some troon at Silicon Valley would've made sure to use his position to take them down by down.
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For better or worse, feminism still has some cred among the woke, and targeting mumsnet in particular is just begging for every woman advocacy group in the country to drown you in lawsuits. There's also that little problem of not being able to apply the usual label of nahtzee, alt-roight or incells to the site; what, you're gonna accuse a group of women being basement dwellers? Lol.
 
Father Brown said:
I read the entire thing and you are not wrong. Some highlights:
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And, here we go:
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A Scientific Theory:
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This is accidentally telling:
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Down the rabbit hole we go:
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Wow, who could have predicted:
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There are jews in this story:
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This whole thing is like some weird self-own:
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This is extremely lame:
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The synposis is as follows: nerdy kid with no friends get bullied then rescued by the brown girl who is a sort of mother figure to the other two kids. They tell him about troons and the boy with glasses (it is heavily implied that this kid is an "egg") gives him a book which causes him to fall down the reddit rabbithole. He then decides his inborn gender is female based on Poe's Law tier reasoning: he had a couple of dreams, he's a total loser and he pretends to be a girl in an MMO. His gay friends encourage him, and give him girl clothes which then triggers ~gender euphoria~. Hilariously, the ~gender euphoria~ makes no actual sense and is basically the author just telling on himself; why would the kid suddenly think he was a pervert? Well, because this is obviously just autofiction with a heap of fantasy. So, in the real world the author has no friends, jacks off to trap yuri and is a self-consciously inadequate weeb who fell down the reddit grooming hole.

That aside, I really recommend it, especially to parents of kids like the author. The author is that lacking in self-awareness that the whole thing is just a giant self-tell that makes him (and by extension every dumb kid with roughly the same story) look retarded, but more than that it gives a relatively unobscured window into the absolute idiocy of it all in a nice concise form.

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Trans morality comics. VERY cult like reasoning there. I wonder if this is how Scientology does it.
 
Gizmoduck said:
Does anyone know how Mumsnet hasn't been banned off the internet yet? It's one of the very few websites on the internet where trannies can't intimidate women into silence and compliance, and I see them psychotically seething over this fact on a regular basis. It's like their Moby Dick.

You'd think some troon at Silicon Valley would've made sure to use his position to take them down by down.
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They are carefully moderated. Well, the feminism section is anyway. No misgendering, no calling a man a man no mentioning AGP, etc. They walk a fine line. Which doesn't stop the troons from tantruming of course.

JazSakuraRose has a lewd account, because of course he has, which he links to his other accounts and his Liberal Democrat affiliations.

Professionalism means nothing to troons. And why would it when they never get pulled up on their gross behaviour?

 
Kane Lives said:
For better or worse, feminism still has some cred among the woke,
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More along the lines that feminism is significant part of the bedrock that is woke. The wage gap, abortion, so and so forth. Besides the more materialistic class critique of marxists, what else of the woke doesn't have key or partial ties to feminism.
 
Deepland Bystander said:
What would be the best way to cope with when your friends or loved ones troon out?

These threads in kiwifarms saddened me enough, a lot of these people are setting up themselves for regret... it hits much harder when someone you know fell into it.
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A lot of this is going to depend on the nature of the friendship. And the quality of this person apart from their troon status.

My XP leads me to say that the first 2 years people are out and on HRT are a total dumpster fire. Some people will de transition during this time. Some people will go off the deep end with sex and drugs. They are almost always very thirsty for validation. This is when a lot of the major relationships crumble or call apart.

Family members can be harder to walk away from. I would advise that you protect yourself and any vulnerable family members as well. Create firm boundaries about what you will and wont accept. Encourage mental health and medical check ups (These people suck at self care)

Friends - I would avoid the gender ID topic as much as possible. Again don't be afraid to state and maintain personal boundaries. If you are a woman you are not required to share make up tips or period stories. No one is required to sleep with or validate them.

I have also found that almost every trans person I have met was high maintenance before they even came out. So if you dig deep, I am sure you could see that this person needed to be kept at an arms length. And sometimes all you can do is love them from a far. This trans thing might just be the latest reiteration of their identity.

The ideology is very toxic. It relies on the core belief of being born in the wrong body and that is a messed up level of toxic guilt and shame. I would try to encourage self acceptance but it can be so hard to intervene if someone is deep in the movement.

If you can try to involve them in the world outside of the troonosphere that could help get them out of the echo chamber.

Don't feel like you are alone or wrong for seeing the toxicity in this community. I want to support troons for being gender non conforming but my support dies off quick when they spout regressive gender rhetoric and garbage science. Or when MtF are so quick to abuse women.

I can also recommend the gray rock method when they start gendersperging.
 
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AV Club on Silence of the Lambs

And of course anyone who points out that this is a shitty article is attacking marginalized people
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This article is so bad. AV Club used to have good writers.

Now they print incoherent shit like that.

It doesn't start that badly but it goes into irrelevant tangents about doctors in the 80s and HIV, his butthurtness that John Hopkins closed its medical clinic after concluding that trans medicine is useless, and it becomes unreasonable.

Just write an article claiming that Silence of the Lambs drives attacks on trannies of something, but a generalized rant about conservatism in the 70s/80s is irrelevant to the task of posting a 'movie at 30' review.
 
Checkmate, Eric!
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trannyfucker said:
This article is so bad. AV Club used to have good writers.

Now they print incoherent shit like that.

It doesn't start that badly but it goes into irrelevant tangents about doctors in the 80s and HIV, his butthurtness that John Hopkins closed its medical clinic after concluding that trans medicine is useless, and it becomes unreasonable.

Just write an article claiming that Silence of the Lambs drives attacks on trannies of something, but a generalized rant about conservatism in the 70s/80s is irrelevant to the task of posting a 'movie at 30' review.
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Here's a decent article on Silence of The Lambs.


I know troons like to falsely trans people posthumously or whatever, but fancy falsely transing someone and then complaining about it!

"
Ted Levine and director Jonathan Demme wanted to fully flesh out Buffalo Bill, separating his true intentions and psychology from what he projects in his actions and misdeeds. To explore Gumb’s mistaken belief that he was homosexual and transgender, Levine spent time with female impersonators and trans individuals in bars.

While watching and speaking with regulars in the bars, Levine realized Gumb didn’t fit with the people he met. According to the 2003 documentary Inside the Labyrinth: The Making of Silence of the Lambs, Levine concluded, "If the guy was gay, he’d be [targeting] boys and men and he was [focused on] women."

Levine specifically points to an interaction with a female impersonator who spoke of feeling empowered by dressing as a woman. This cemented the idea that Gumb was neither the homosexual man he pretends to be with Benjamin Raspail or the transgender person he believes he needs to become. According to Rolling Stone: "
 
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Deepland Bystander said:
What would be the best way to cope with when your friends or loved ones troon out?

These threads in kiwifarms saddened me enough, a lot of these people are setting up themselves for regret... it hits much harder when someone you know fell into it.
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I feel like I should respond since I have some experience in the area of caring and staying in contact with family that have transitioned. I think it's very important to remain supportive of that person's hobbies and aspects of their personality that have been a mainstay throughout their life. Don't let their constructed identity and online communities become the only thing they have to support them in life. In most cases, if someone has decided to transition, there's nothing you can do to dissuade them without alienating yourself. However, at their core they are still the same person that you've known for years and still have things they hold dear separate from the shallow support and attention they receive from transitioning. You can't hope for a detransition or some sudden realization that surgery and hormones don't reset life; ideologies do not break easily.

In some ways I might have it easier than others because the only person I truly care for in this situation is desperately trying to stealth and has found a stable friend group, so they have mostly removed themselves from rabid ideologs. Transition is not the end of someone's life, but it does make it significantly harder. You must decide for yourself whether someone is worth supporting, if you can actually provide the sort of help they need, and (most importantly) if they are interested in retaining you in their life beyond someone to hang dirty laundry on.
 
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"my bimbo pills" (2100 likes) man sometimes I wonder what the world has come to, this isn't some obscure forum for fetish content this is a place where until recently the POTUS was ranting on a daily basis. Your mom has heard about twitter, hell she might even have one. It just sickens me that these people are allowed to parade their fetish in front of the whole world and you just have to grin and bear it.
 
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Can we talk about how problematic this comic is? First of all, the transphobic lie that "trans people's genders don't match with their bodies". Actually gender is a social construct and if you identify as a woman, then you're a woman. Bodies are not inherently gendered. Second, you can't "woke up as a girl but still mentally be you [male]", because if in your mind you're male, then you're male. You couldn't woke up "in a girl's body" because that body would belong to you, and it would be male. You wouldn't have "feminine physical traits", you would have masculine physical traits if your gender is male. This comic is some TERF propaganda.
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I play as a woman
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you're a trans girl sister!!!! uWu
 
Jannies remove this if it's off topic, but here's a big powerlevel vent about losing my best friend.

I have read every single fucking page of this thread. Started at page 1, finally ended here. I autistically read through this to try and make sense of what the fuck happened to my best friend. I lost him six months ago. He trooned out, called himself a woman. I was accepting, but it was just too much. This man has been a part of my life for 12 years. His dad took us fishing, my grandad took us camping. He taught me how to drive stickshift and ride motorcycles, he helped me get into shape and drop 30 lbs as a teen. We learned guitar together, we build our first pc's with the help of the other. And yet he fucking trooned out because he "always felt like a woman".

But he's not a woman, we all know that. His dad mourns the loss of his son, his sisters pretend to accept him, but text me often about how weird he is, his mom left their family a few years ago. I can't even hang out with him anymore, nothing we do feels right anymore. Everytime we go out to town, I am always embarassed standing next to a 6'3 man in a skirt. Everyone can tell he doesn't pass, and often times we have to drive home because he felt like people were staring too much. We can't play guitar together anymore, he sees his massive man hands hitting frets that even I struggle to and he just breaks down and cries. Even playing vidya doesn't feel the same anymore, since his sense of humor has changed so much. He went from the most confident bastard I knew to a sensitive little sissy. Constantly needing to be comforted and reaffirmed, and I have lied to him telling him what a beautiful girl he is, but it feels gross doing that. Worst part is that he is a mishmash of feminine and male traits, he is your typical troon, has male hobbies like gaming and tech, for fucks sake he still drives the STI we tuned and help rebuild as teens, has an adams apple that is more pronounced than a snake eating a golf ball, has one of the most defined jawlines I've seen in a guy, and has the genetics to grow a great beard judging by his dad and granddad. He is too masculine to hang out with real women like his sisters and her friends, but too feminine to really hang out with men. He's just alone.

I thought that this thread may help me either cope with it, or even talk him out of de-transitioning, but I just can't. He's already talking about SRS and trying to get appointments for HRT, even though everyone is telling him he's rushing into things way too fast. I can try to talk him out of it, but he'll end up resenting me. Hell he already kind of does, even though I do my best to not deadname him and use proper pronouns, going from knowing someone as him for 12 years is hard to change, I'm even doing it now. But I'm the only one he has left. He has no real close friends besides me, all his work friends distanced themselves from him long ago. I am the last real life friend he has, his discord troon buddies just pink pill him even more. This fucking sucks, I hate trannies for what they did to my lad. I tried guys, I really did. But six months is all I can take really. I don't think I can continue doing this with him anymore. Every time I talk to him about waiting, or perhaps that it is just a phase, he flips his shit and yells at me (yells, not screams, because he's a 6'3 man), and tells me never to talk to him again, only to text me a few days later wanting to go to the bookstore or guitar store. This man used to be the most level headed guy I knew, and would constantly be the one to prevent me from flipping my shit or getting into fights, and now it's like things have changed, he's the hothead and I am the emotionally leveled one. But I'm not emotionally level, I'm just fucking emotionally drained from dealing with his bullshit. I have many friends that are girls, and that shit is tiring. He was supposed to be my retreat from constant whining about shitty bf's or drama, but now he's turned into the main source of drama in my life. I'm too embarrassed to have him at my house anymore, so we just hang in his troon room, full of trans pride shit that is so obnoxious my eyes bleed. How did the man that was the normal one out of the two of us end up making the fucking furry look like the socially well adapted one? I am thankful to whatever cruel god that he isn't a furry (that I am aware of), but knowing his troon buddies that's soon to change.

TLDR I just want my fucking best friend back.
 
Cold Brew said:
Jannies remove this if it's off topic, but here's a big powerlevel vent about losing my best friend.

I have read every single fucking page of this thread. Started at page 1, finally ended here. I autistically read through this to try and make sense of what the fuck happened to my best friend. I lost him six months ago. He trooned out, called himself a woman. I was accepting, but it was just too much. This man has been a part of my life for 12 years. His dad took us fishing, my grandad took us camping. He taught me how to drive stickshift and ride motorcycles, he helped me get into shape and drop 30 lbs as a teen. We learned guitar together, we build our first pc's with the help of the other. And yet he fucking trooned out because he "always felt like a woman".

But he's not a woman, we all know that. His dad mourns the loss of his son, his sisters pretend to accept him, but text me often about how weird he is, his mom left their family a few years ago. I can't even hang out with him anymore, nothing we do feels right anymore. Everytime we go out to town, I am always embarassed standing next to a 6'3 man in a skirt. Everyone can tell he doesn't pass, and often times we have to drive home because he felt like people were staring too much. We can't play guitar together anymore, he sees his massive man hands hitting frets that even I struggle to and he just breaks down and cries. Even playing vidya doesn't feel the same anymore, since his sense of humor has changed so much. He went from the most confident bastard I knew to a sensitive little sissy. Constantly needing to be comforted and reaffirmed, and I have lied to him telling him what a beautiful girl he is, but it feels gross doing that. Worst part is that he is a mishmash of feminine and male traits, he is your typical troon, has male hobbies like gaming and tech, for fucks sake he still drives the STI we tuned and help rebuild as teens, has an adams apple that is more pronounced than a snake eating a golf ball, has one of the most defined jawlines I've seen in a guy, and has the genetics to grow a great beard judging by his dad and granddad. He is too masculine to hang out with real women like his sisters and her friends, but too feminine to really hang out with men. He's just alone.

I thought that this thread may help me either cope with it, or even talk him out of de-transitioning, but I just can't. He's already talking about SRS and trying to get appointments for HRT, even though everyone is telling him he's rushing into things way too fast. I can try to talk him out of it, but he'll end up resenting me. Hell he already kind of does, even though I do my best to not deadname him and use proper pronouns, going from knowing someone as him for 12 years is hard to change, I'm even doing it now. But I'm the only one he has left. He has no real close friends besides me, all his work friends distanced themselves from him long ago. I am the last real life friend he has, his discord troon buddies just pink pill him even more. This fucking sucks, I hate trannies for what they did to my lad. I tried guys, I really did. But six months is all I can take really. I don't think I can continue doing this with him anymore. Every time I talk to him about waiting, or perhaps that it is just a phase, he flips his shit and yells at me (yells, not screams, because he's a 6'3 man), and tells me never to talk to him again, only to text me a few days later wanting to go to the bookstore or guitar store. This man used to be the most level headed guy I knew, and would constantly be the one to prevent me from flipping my shit or getting into fights, and now it's like things have changed, he's the hothead and I am the emotionally leveled one. But I'm not emotionally level, I'm just fucking emotionally drained from dealing with his bullshit. I have many friends that are girls, and that shit is tiring. He was supposed to be my retreat from constant whining about shitty bf's or drama, but now he's turned into the main source of drama in my life. I'm too embarrassed to have him at my house anymore, so we just hang in his troon room, full of trans pride shit that is so obnoxious my eyes bleed. How did the man that was the normal one out of the two of us end up making the fucking furry look like the socially well adapted one? I am thankful to whatever cruel god that he isn't a furry (that I am aware of), but knowing his troon buddies that's soon to change.

TLDR I just want my fucking best friend back.
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My advice would be to make peace with the fact because he's going to kill himself and there's nothing you can do. It's cold, but consider excommunicating for your own sake and sanity. I also want to know how the FUCK someone's psychology can go so, so wrong. I personally think he's got AGP, seeming to be high-T (there seems to be a theme there). I'd almost compare it to schizophrenia, where everything's fucking fine until one day seemingly out of goddamn nowhere a switch is flipped and all of a sudden everything's different. Also trannies whole "I've wanted to be a woman since I was a little boy" being a goddamn lie is disturbingly similar to an intense depression's "I'm staying this way because it's all I can remember". He says that because if he admitted it was for a coom it would all fall apart.
 
Cold Brew said:
Jannies remove this if it's off topic, but here's a big powerlevel vent about losing my best friend.

I have read every single fucking page of this thread. Started at page 1, finally ended here. I autistically read through this to try and make sense of what the fuck happened to my best friend. I lost him six months ago. He trooned out, called himself a woman. I was accepting, but it was just too much. This man has been a part of my life for 12 years. His dad took us fishing, my grandad took us camping. He taught me how to drive stickshift and ride motorcycles, he helped me get into shape and drop 30 lbs as a teen. We learned guitar together, we build our first pc's with the help of the other. And yet he fucking trooned out because he "always felt like a woman".

But he's not a woman, we all know that. His dad mourns the loss of his son, his sisters pretend to accept him, but text me often about how weird he is, his mom left their family a few years ago. I can't even hang out with him anymore, nothing we do feels right anymore. Everytime we go out to town, I am always embarassed standing next to a 6'3 man in a skirt. Everyone can tell he doesn't pass, and often times we have to drive home because he felt like people were staring too much. We can't play guitar together anymore, he sees his massive man hands hitting frets that even I struggle to and he just breaks down and cries. Even playing vidya doesn't feel the same anymore, since his sense of humor has changed so much. He went from the most confident bastard I knew to a sensitive little sissy. Constantly needing to be comforted and reaffirmed, and I have lied to him telling him what a beautiful girl he is, but it feels gross doing that. Worst part is that he is a mishmash of feminine and male traits, he is your typical troon, has male hobbies like gaming and tech, for fucks sake he still drives the STI we tuned and help rebuild as teens, has an adams apple that is more pronounced than a snake eating a golf ball, has one of the most defined jawlines I've seen in a guy, and has the genetics to grow a great beard judging by his dad and granddad. He is too masculine to hang out with real women like his sisters and her friends, but too feminine to really hang out with men. He's just alone.

I thought that this thread may help me either cope with it, or even talk him out of de-transitioning, but I just can't. He's already talking about SRS and trying to get appointments for HRT, even though everyone is telling him he's rushing into things way too fast. I can try to talk him out of it, but he'll end up resenting me. Hell he already kind of does, even though I do my best to not deadname him and use proper pronouns, going from knowing someone as him for 12 years is hard to change, I'm even doing it now. But I'm the only one he has left. He has no real close friends besides me, all his work friends distanced themselves from him long ago. I am the last real life friend he has, his discord troon buddies just pink pill him even more. This fucking sucks, I hate trannies for what they did to my lad. I tried guys, I really did. But six months is all I can take really. I don't think I can continue doing this with him anymore. Every time I talk to him about waiting, or perhaps that it is just a phase, he flips his shit and yells at me (yells, not screams, because he's a 6'3 man), and tells me never to talk to him again, only to text me a few days later wanting to go to the bookstore or guitar store. This man used to be the most level headed guy I knew, and would constantly be the one to prevent me from flipping my shit or getting into fights, and now it's like things have changed, he's the hothead and I am the emotionally leveled one. But I'm not emotionally level, I'm just fucking emotionally drained from dealing with his bullshit. I have many friends that are girls, and that shit is tiring. He was supposed to be my retreat from constant whining about shitty bf's or drama, but now he's turned into the main source of drama in my life. I'm too embarrassed to have him at my house anymore, so we just hang in his troon room, full of trans pride shit that is so obnoxious my eyes bleed. How did the man that was the normal one out of the two of us end up making the fucking furry look like the socially well adapted one? I am thankful to whatever cruel god that he isn't a furry (that I am aware of), but knowing his troon buddies that's soon to change.

TLDR I just want my fucking best friend back.
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I'm so so sorry. Your friend is already gone. Fuck.
 
keyboredsm4shthe2nd said:
My advice would be to make peace with the fact because he's going to kill himself and there's nothing you can do. It's cold, but consider excommunicating for your own sake and sanity. I also want to know how the FUCK someone's psychology can go so, so wrong. I personally think he's got AGP, seeming to be high-T (there seems to be a theme there). I'd almost compare it to schizophrenia, where everything's fucking fine until one day seemingly out of goddamn nowhere a switch is flipped and all of a sudden everything's different. Also trannies whole "I've wanted to be a woman since I was a little boy" being a goddamn lie is disturbingly similar to an intense depression's "I'm staying this way because it's all I can remember". He says that because if he admitted it was for a coom it would all fall apart.
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Edit: Spoliering stuff so people can just ignore my posts if they don't want to see them.

Sadly, I think you're right. I learned so much reading this thread than he was ever able to explain, and I'm sure it's AGP. Hell I already discovered his sex toy collection accidentally when looking for a spare 1/4 guitar cable in his drawer.

I already have grown distant despite his efforts, it's just hard to cut the guy who was your brother for most of your life out of it. I remember his mom mentioning something about his great grandfather having some mental issues, I just never really bothered to find out what it was.

I really, REALLY hope he doesn't kill himself, but I'll try to make peace. Though without me, he'll literally just be alone with his discord troons...

FUCK why is this so hard.
 
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