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Devil May Cry 5 wasn't a good game?
Like there's a lot of things I want to say regarding how you feel about this and how some of the things you say such as "Visual novels aren't games" based solely on your own personal definition of what a game is despite evidence to the contrary is really kind of dumb but I feel like we'd be talking in circles otherwise.
This rhetoric of "Censorship is okay if no one cares about the product" is a dangerous one to have, it sets a precedent that could eventually grow into the mainstream if it isn't dealt with.
I've already mentioned how quality control was significantly worse 15+ years ago and we didn't need censorship to know what games were good, bad or popular so I don't see how it should be any different now.
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I think most people think it isn't as good as 1/3/4 but not as bad as 2.
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Devil May Cry was due to Capcom's own fuckery. Much like the Dynasty Warriors boob jiggle being due to KT's incompetency and tying shit to the frame rate.
Neither of those had anything to do with Sony's policy itself, the clickbait media jumped the gun.
And yes visual novels are not games, by their very definition and function they are not games. Much like how Microsoft Excel isn't a game, or anything recent by Adamn Sandler isn't a movie but a grifting scheme or a cry for help.
How can a game exist without gameplay?
Liking visual novels is all well and good, but then the question begs itself? Do you want to actually play games or would you rather let someone tell you a story? Visual novels have the same interactivity as audio books. Audio books allow you to start and stop, go back and go forwards all by pressing buttons as well.
And you know what I'll go even further beyond and say games are not art either. The whole thing that started that mess was the game journalists themselves because they wanted to be more than game journalists and be risen up to the level of Cultural Zeitgeists(The Citizen Kanes of gaming if you will). An art classification doesn't elevate games, they would still be the same if they had it or not. So to engage on them being art to to engage retards in their bully pen because the retards set the rules in the first place hoping that one day people would stop calling them retards.
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It already did. Remember when the games were just edge lord asset flips and porn games? Those were okay to censor because it was edgelord trolling games with no quality. Then it was fanservice games like Dead or Alive Xtreme and Omega Labyrinth, but those were okay to ban because they're just boob games for degenerates, and you can look at boobs on the internet. By the time we had Call of Duty with katana wielding cyborg feminists on the European front, finally the normies gave a shit, but by then it was too late.
Obviously, it isn't a linear timeline as I just described (I think a lot of AAA woke is to justify micro transactions), but the same idea applies. It's like how micro transactions went from Mass Effect 3 to Star Wars Battlefront.
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You make it sound so peaceful, so innocent. But you forget how battlefront 2 caused many 40 big Laffs and corporate pants shitting to the point where EA has now lost exclusivity to the star wars license. The Journey was worth it for the destination and all the enlightening truths revealed along the way.
By the way microtransactions started with Oblivion Horse Armor. That was the first cosmetic DLC which are considered microtransactions today.
Here's something separate, DLC makes up a good chunk of purchases now, this is across the board for every platform. But since we're talking about playstation here's the most recent graph.
If you're thinking censorship ever gets to a billion dollar level if you're making the DLC comparison you'd first have to ask how profitable censorship is in the first place. As of current every game that got affected were games that didn't even do well in japan. So if sony is targeting games that even the japanese as a whole don't want how could there be any significant blacklash that many seem to be wishing for? Especially since we're going on 3 years of the policy in place. I mean Disney got it's ass beaten by the star wars crowd before year 3 and that had major financial effects. Hell you can even bring up the Playstation 3 and how that bombed at launch and that also had a direct immediate effect.
You also have the same issues that came out with Comicsgate and related things where most of the people involved don't care about the medium and just want to own the libtards. That doesn't make a steady consistent movement and will always splinter and cause infighting.
And say the nigh impossible happens and all devs ever leave and sign exclusivity deals with Nintendo, censorship and libtards won't end that way. You've got the assorted factions of the Nintendo fandom themselves who are the moviebobs or animal crossing troons who are all politically driven and some who have ties to treehouse, and now everything is in the same boat they're all on. You're now back to square 1 with less spaces on the board to move around on the consumer level. And as the corporate level goes Nintendo has a history of screwing thing ups, especially if there's no other players at the table.
You leave for PC, it's a similar deal because Valve has also blocked far more games from appearing on steam, except now you don't even have physical copies anymore.
And anyone who collects physical doesn't trust any of these companies as far as you can throw them.
Basically at that point it's pick your poison. But personally I still don't see any major shifts, there's too many things that have not come to fruition that are a year or so out. That kadokawa deal is meant to grow a ton of Japanese based IPs. But weather they'll be good games or not depends on when they come out.
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Steam these days are willing throw legitimate gamers aside to allow as many lewd games as possible. As in they would rather be an open market and allow EGS to scoop up games from big companies like Ubisoft and stuff that got their start on Steam like Darkest Dungeon. Still they have more balls than Sony did which was to abandon the fanbase that supported the failed Vita with these games
Still you got to hand it to the man for sticking up for games like Gun Gun Pixies after he creeped out a dad with kids over a bad review by writing an outrage OPED over it
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This was Pete's response to the article due to the fact one review shit talked his game and by extent weebs.
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So you cant ignore the fact weebs are at least willing to stand up for what follow vs the mercurial nature of CaliSocJus
Still you got to hand it to the man for sticking up for games like Gun Gun Pixies after he creeped out a dad with kids over a bad review by writing an outrage OPED over it
Review: Gun Gun Pixies - A Pitiful Perv-Fest That Also Fails As A Video Game
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This was Pete's response to the article due to the fact one review shit talked his game and by extent weebs.
Let’s Respect Each Other’s Tastes (Or: “This Game Isn’t For You, and That’s Okay”)
Whenever any creative person sits down to compose something, they inevitably do so with a particular audience in mind. Sometimes that audience is as simple as the creator themselves; they want to w…
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So you cant ignore the fact weebs are at least willing to stand up for what follow vs the mercurial nature of CaliSocJus
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Steam these days are willing throw legitimate gamers aside to allow as many lewd games as possible. As in they would rather be an open market and allow EGS to scoop up games from big companies like Ubisoft and stuff that got their start on Steam like Darkest Dungeon. Still they have more balls than Sony did which was to abandon the fanbase that supported the failed Vita with these games
Still you got to hand it to the man for sticking up for games like Gun Gun Pixies after he creeped out a dad with kids over a bad review by writing an outrage OPED over it
Review: Gun Gun Pixies - A Pitiful Perv-Fest That Also Fails As A Video Game
Space Oddity
This was Pete's response to the article due to the fact one review shit talked his game and by extent weebs.
Let’s Respect Each Other’s Tastes (Or: “This Game Isn’t For You, and That’s Okay”)
Whenever any creative person sits down to compose something, they inevitably do so with a particular audience in mind. Sometimes that audience is as simple as the creator themselves; they want to w…
So you cant ignore the fact weebs are at least willing to stand up for what follow vs the mercurial nature of CaliSocJus
I read the article and this stuck out.
He ends it with a cop out.
Jesus Christ if you're going to defend a game with sub par titties and ass, at least recognize that there has to be some level of quality control. if you're going full on lewd you could at the very least demand the best. Jacking off to crude titties is more of an act of desperation than one of self pleasure.
Games and everything surrounding games has always been about conflict, to puss out like is shameful. If he really cared about softcore porn I have to ask, where are his balls?
Not to be a dick, but I can see why this game got the shaft even on Steam.
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"censorship is just a fairy tale and a boogeyman clickbait, also i'm glad those games i never liked were screwed by censorship"
"also let me explain to you why you should be mindful of censorship and liberals in non-playstation systems"
And this is some level of school-grade retardation to believe a game with teasing/fanservice means you must absolutely beat your meat over it.
"also let me explain to you why you should be mindful of censorship and liberals in non-playstation systems"
And this is some level of school-grade retardation to believe a game with teasing/fanservice means you must absolutely beat your meat over it.
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Well to Marisa's discredit. They were horribly wrong that Gun Gun Pixies got rejected on Steam
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Look man how can you have a high opinion on coomers when they idolize this thing?
Like you might as well get off to the MoistCritikal video on garbage trucks for the same experience and gameplay.
If Dragon Quest has an uphill battle for notoriety in the states, I'm pretty sure this is Sisyphus.
If you want an Equal Comparison, Evenicle is higher up in the charts and player count than this game by a huge margin. And I consider Evenicle to be like Tremors or Galaxy Quest of which it something that is a near perfect rendition of it's genre in presentation and execution.
Waifus are a dime a dozen, don't cry over the ones that get binned. They'll always be replaced by better ones.
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Even IF this post is meant to be sarcasm, the co-founder of Rock Paper Shotgun ACTUALLY doesn't deny that they are doing what Jack Thompson was trying to do in the 00s.
Also they always call their ideological opponents "angry" when a butt offended them so much they removed it.
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I guess that just goes to prove once again that this whole censorship and cultural influence of pozzed shit has nothing to do with personal beliefs and everything to do with power and influence. I mean, John Walker still sounds and looks like a miserable person so I guess he's also trying to find some sort of solace in his empty and unfulfilling world, with dunking on twitter randos being his only respite from the arduous task of spending his parent's money.
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Their ideology wouldn't be a problem in games if they actually made good games. But the problem with game journalists is that they want games to be something else like a movie and feel games are lesser forms of media. If you don't like games for what they are and how they function, maybe you don't like games to begin with?
Censored games have survived censorship before and gone on to do well, Tales of berseria was one of the series record breakers in the west and that had the tutorial intro changed because they couldn't show a child getting penetrated (by a magic sword). The reason why this happened was because the censorship never bled through to the gameplay or the rest of the game. You can strip the veneer off of a game and it can still work, because while games are a visual medium, they're engineered to be mechanical in nature and the mechanics will always shine though. their strengths are their structure.
I mean hell I'm personally 8 hours into grinding for max level and max jobs for Yakuza Like a Dragon for the second run on Millennium Tower. Those people don't want stuff like that, they'd prefer walking dead where your choices don't matter and it's a movie.
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I'd like him to be able to get a job, but as like a hotel manager or a fry cook, some other noncensorship path.
I'll remain optimistic that this fucker will be irrelevanter than even Jack Thompson in 5 years. RPS has 4 years without Trump to screech at (I don't know hoe bad they got but Kotaku and Polygon got fucked up harder due to TDS), readership has gone down for sites like this, and a lot are left trying to monotize in a world that gives them the finger.
I'd like him to be able to get a job, but as like a hotel manager or a fry cook, some other noncensorship path.
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Censorship (as well as localization, old JRPGs were unfortunate to be affected by script changes done by editors & "translators") still screws with the game's story, and stories & their characters are an important facet that carry JRPG games no matter how you try to deny it. If you're fine with a 4kid-tier censorship (so that it doesn't hinder with your personal experience of the game), that's your choice, but god you've been shitting up the thread over 10 pages and so with your constant attempts at defending and promoting censorship like it's a good thing.
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This is an admission of being garbage and being the enemy. Anyone who can't deny being the same shit as Jack Thompson is literally a piece of shit and should dance on the gibbet.
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Stories are just the context of why you're performing the actions in an RPG, they're not the driving reason. If you've ever played table top games before, it's pretty much this.
Warhammer 40k uses the setting as context, but the main enjoyment comes from moving your dudes around on the table and fighting and outwitting the other player or players.
Story is just a surface level element, if you're not digging any deeper than that you're not really understanding what you're playing.
And I'm not saying it's a good thing, I'm saying censorship is indifferent. The end result still remains the same regardless if it happens or not.
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So Walker admits it's a pretend lady and thinks that the other guy who has always made the argument that "pixels be pixels and why do you care?" was a fucking tool before deciding to use that argument against the other guy.
Seriously, back in GG they kept talking about "how could pixels upset these people so much?" and now Walker's trying to say "NO THAT WAS YOU, THAT WAS ALWAYS YOU".